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Title: Softball in the NCAA's
Post by: txram on May 14, 2017, 09:24:59 pm
We made it by winning the A10 championship, but probably would have made it otherwise.  We should get a better seed than last year when the committee thought SJU was going to win, so we got sent to Oregon when we came back and beat SJU.

Here's a preview clip of the selection show (ESPN2 10 pm ET) and comments on some of the teams.  These 3 analysts/announcers are the best around.  The one in the middle, Amanda Scarborough, we faced in 2006 when she was an All-American pitcher at Texas A&M.  http://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=19376576 (http://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=19376576)

Its followed by a clip of some amazing defensive plays. 

And here's a link I posted elsewhere about mid majors in the softball NCAAs:  http://www.excellesports.com/news/softball-womens-college-world-series/ (http://www.excellesports.com/news/softball-womens-college-world-series/)


Title: Re: Softball in the NCAA's
Post by: 123456789 on May 14, 2017, 10:24:02 pm
We're going to Utah to play the #11 seeded Utes, Mississippi State, and BYU. Geez, another long trip.


Title: Re: Softball in the NCAA's
Post by: txram on May 14, 2017, 10:24:56 pm
We're going to Utah (#16 RPI) with Miss State (#31) and BYU (#18).  We're probably a 4-seed in that regional, having to play Utah 1st.  A long trip, but at least no top 10 teams.  We've beaten teams in this RPI range this year, e.g, Baylor (10), Tulsa (28).  Was hoping we'd go to Baylor, where James Madison wound up going instead of hosting.  

The SEC got all 13 teams in.

Here are the brackets:  http://www.ncaa.com/news/softball/article/2017-05-14/ncaa-division-i-softball-committee-announces-2017-championship (http://www.ncaa.com/news/softball/article/2017-05-14/ncaa-division-i-softball-committee-announces-2017-championship) 
Play starts for us on May 18th at 8:30 pm on ESPN3.  All regional games will be telecast somewhere on ESPN.

Elsewhere, even though they lost in the MAAC playoffs, Iona (#164 RPI) got invited to the new National Invitational Postseason Tournament (NISC), but no A10 team did.  UMass should have; #118 RPI before this weekend.  Congrats to Coach Inouye at Iona.


Title: Re: Softball in the NCAA's
Post by: xtey92a on May 15, 2017, 08:37:54 am
Once again, Softball is our best team. Go Rams!


Title: Re: Softball in the NCAA's
Post by: fordham81 on May 15, 2017, 11:00:48 am
We're going to Utah (#16 RPI) with Miss State (#31) and BYU (#18).  We're probably a 4-seed in that regional, having to play Utah 1st.  A long trip, but at least no top 10 teams.  We've beaten teams in this RPI range this year, e.g, Baylor (10), Tulsa (28).  Was hoping we'd go to Baylor, where James Madison wound up going instead of hosting.  

The SEC got all 13 teams in.

Here are the brackets:  http://www.ncaa.com/news/softball/article/2017-05-14/ncaa-division-i-softball-committee-announces-2017-championship (http://www.ncaa.com/news/softball/article/2017-05-14/ncaa-division-i-softball-committee-announces-2017-championship) 
Play starts for us on May 18th at 8:30 pm on ESPN3.  All regional games will be telecast somewhere on ESPN.

Elsewhere, even though they lost in the MAAC playoffs, Iona (#164 RPI) got invited to the new National Invitational Postseason Tournament (NISC), but no A10 team did.  UMass should have; #118 RPI before this weekend.  Congrats to Coach Inouye at Iona.

As of 5/14 our RPI was 44, Utah 19, Miss State 31 and BYU 20. Some tough competition for the Rams.

I was watching highlights from the top teams in the country and they are incredibly impressive.


Title: Re: Softball in the NCAA's
Post by: ace93 on May 15, 2017, 11:02:32 am
My biggest concern is our fielding. Due to injuries we have some players out of position and that makes it tough, but you could see the fielding difference even yesterday vs. UMass.


Title: Re: Softball in the NCAA's
Post by: txram on May 15, 2017, 11:09:08 am
My biggest concern is our fielding. Due to injuries we have some players out of position and that makes it tough, but you could see the fielding difference even yesterday vs. UMass.
Agree, Ace, which is what I tried to diplomatically say in the A10 Championship post.  We've been able to make up for most of the defensive weaknesses with our bats.  That likely won't happen at the NCAA's.  Plus, with better opposing hitters, there will be even more pressure on our defense. 

At .963, our fielding percentage is ranked #102, which includes the games when we were without injuries and did better, so it's gone downhill of late.  That doesn't include the misplays (mental or physical) that weren't official errors, which were obvious in the UMass games.


Title: Re: Softball in the NCAA's
Post by: txram on May 15, 2017, 11:26:24 am
As of 5/14 our RPI was 44, Utah 19, Miss State 31 and BYU 20. Some tough competition for the Rams.

I was watching highlights from the top teams in the country and they are incredibly impressive.
Yep, the RPI was just updated to what you noted, 81.  http://www.ncaa.com/rankings/softball/d1/ncaa-womens-softball-rpi (http://www.ncaa.com/rankings/softball/d1/ncaa-womens-softball-rpi)

And yes, girls can play pretty damn good ball.


Title: Re: Softball in the NCAA's
Post by: Rambart on May 15, 2017, 02:13:32 pm
My biggest concern is our fielding. Due to injuries we have some players out of position and that makes it tough, but you could see the fielding difference even yesterday vs. UMass.

Certainly a valid concern - Hitting the cut off's along with keeping the ball in front of you even if it means fielding it on the bounce can be the difference in the outcome of any game


Title: Re: Softball in the NCAA's
Post by: ace93 on May 15, 2017, 04:43:24 pm
Certainly a valid concern - Hitting the cut off's along with keeping the ball in front of you even if it means fielding it on the bounce can be the difference in the outcome of any game

I have a strong feeling that hitting the cutoff was discussed between games on Sunday.  Ha ha.  But yeah, those are the little things that are not so little and we won't be able to get away with in the NCAA tournament.


Title: Re: Softball in the NCAA's
Post by: charlietags on May 16, 2017, 12:57:05 am
Congrats Ladies and good luck - let's win!


Title: Re: Softball in the NCAA's
Post by: txram on May 16, 2017, 08:56:15 pm
Here's the SID's pre-tourney write up:  http://www.fordhamsports.com/news/2017/5/14/softball-to-play-in-utah-ncaa-regional.aspx (http://www.fordhamsports.com/news/2017/5/14/softball-to-play-in-utah-ncaa-regional.aspx)

and links:  http://fordhamsports.com/news/2017/5/17/softball-in-salt-lake-city-for-ncaa-regionals.aspx (http://fordhamsports.com/news/2017/5/17/softball-in-salt-lake-city-for-ncaa-regionals.aspx)

Here's pre-tourney interviews with Bridget, Amy Van Hoven and Skylar Johnston:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIjecwYTOXo&app=desktop (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIjecwYTOXo&app=desktop)


Title: Re: Softball in the NCAA's
Post by: txram on May 18, 2017, 07:31:23 pm
Utah is 33-14 and were 13-9 in the Pac 12.  Our only common opponent, Arizona, they beat 2 out of 3 times while we lost by an 8-1 score.

They hit a team .311, the same as ours, but against tougher pitching.  Flippen (.421 BA) is 2-time Pac 12 POY and a member of Team USA.  Their stronger relative stat is a 2.22 ERA, their best pitcher having a 1.22.

Our game will start late as the BYU-Miss State game lasted late with BYU winning 8-0 via run rule after 6.  It was a 1-hitter for BYU.

Quense is in the circle with Aughinbaugh in RF.  Van Hoven is DH Vergona.  Donavan, their most used pitcher, but highest ERA (3.22) is pitching for Utah.  She has a 2:1 K:BB ratio.  It's only 49 degrees and Quense has trouble in cold weather.


Title: Re: Softball in the NCAA's
Post by: txram on May 18, 2017, 08:59:11 pm
In the top of the 1st vs Utah, Canessa K'd, as did Hughes and Shaw.   

In the bottom half, Quense gave up a leadoff LD single.  Johnston made a throwing error when nobody covered 1b on a bunt.  A single scored a run.  It was a pop fly missed by Mayer at SS going back.  Already 2 defensive misplays cost us.  A sac fly scored another run.  A hard hit GB off Johnston's glove put runners on the corners.  A single scored another run.  Utah is hammering the ball.  A sac bunt moved the runners up.  A GB to Mayer ended it.

Rams down 3-0 after 1.


Title: Re: Softball in the NCAA's
Post by: fordham81 on May 18, 2017, 09:04:46 pm
E-5, Rams in trouble, 1st and 3rd- no outs


Title: Re: Softball in the NCAA's
Post by: txram on May 18, 2017, 09:18:26 pm
In the top of the 2nd, Johnston popped up, Mayer grounded out, Van Hoven fouled out.  We have to swing at more 1st pitches.  Every one has been a strike down the middle.  Donavan has excellent control.

In the bottom of the 2nd, Hughes made an error at 2b.  Quense gave up a double off Johnston's glove at 3b.  An infield single off Hughes' glove at 2b scored 2.  The announcers are getting it right as to the defensive effect of the injuries - errors and plays that aren't made that should be made.  A bunt and poor defensive decisions scored another run, but the hitter was eventually thrown out at 2b.  Quense gave up a walk.  The runner stole 2b easily.  Quense got a GB out then gave up a 2-run HR, which, at 225' to LF, is a bomb.  A GB out finally ended it.

Rams down 8-0 after 2.


Title: Re: Softball in the NCAA's
Post by: txram on May 18, 2017, 09:40:21 pm
In the 3rd, Skrepenak and Quense K'd.  Aughinbaugh blooped a single, our 1st hit, and took 2b on the throw.  Canessa grounded out on a great play by Flippen at 2b.

Stocks in to pitch for Quense.  She walked the first batter.  Shaw booted a pop up at 1b.   That's our 3rd official error and maybe 6th misplay.  Stocks got a fly out on a nice catch by Canessa.  A fly ball to RF scored a run and the throw missed the cutoff, allowing the runner to get to 2b.  Hughes dropped the throw from Vergona, which might have gotten the runner. (add 2 more misplays) A single off Mayer's glove at SS scored a run.  Stocks walked another batter then got a pop up.

Rams down 10-0 after 3.


Title: Re: Softball in the NCAA's
Post by: txram on May 18, 2017, 10:14:03 pm
In the 4th, new pitcher for Utah, Hilburn, with a 1.63 ERA who has had control problems this year.  Hughes and Shaw walked.  Johnston K'd.  Mayer grounded into a force at 2b.  Van Hoven grounded out.  With good wheels, she might have beaten that out.  2 LOB.

In the bottom half of the 4th, Aughinbaughin to pitch.  Trivelpiece to RF.   Aughinbaugh got a K, our 1st.  Trivelpiece then made an error in RF on a routine fly ball.  When it rains it pours.  We then got a force at 2b and a GB out.

Rams down 10-0 after 4.


Title: Re: Softball in the NCAA's
Post by: txram on May 18, 2017, 10:24:20 pm
In the top of the 5th, Quense led off with a single.  Figueroa in to PR.  Skrep lined out to 3b, our hardest hit ball today.  Aughinbaugh hit into a force.  Canessa walked.  Hughes grounded out.  2 LOB.

Rams lose 10-0 on the run rule.  We had 2 hits, 4 errors and upteen misplays.  Quense gave up 8 runs on 8 hits with 1 BB.  Stocks gave up 2 runs (0 earned) on 1 hit with 2 BB.  Aughinbaugh had 1 K.

Yes we had exams and a tough travel, but that's pretty embarrassing when one sees the score on a national post.  I said Quense has trouble in cold weather and I said our defense was a problem coming in, but 8 runs were "earned" (maybe 5 or 6 actually), and Utah hammered the ball.

We play Mississippi State tomorrow afternoon at 5:30 ET.  If we win, we then play the loser of Utah-BYU at around 8:30.  I attended the game the last time we played MS, in Starkville, in 2008, when they were ranked #21.  We lost 6-5 in 8 innings.  Nicole Ayres, tragically murdered a few years later, pitched for us in that one.

Here are the links to the Mississippi State game:  http://www.fordhamsports.com/schedule.aspx?path=softball (http://www.fordhamsports.com/schedule.aspx?path=softball)


Title: Re: Softball in the NCAA's
Post by: RickFC77 on May 19, 2017, 09:43:26 am
Shake it off, regroup and go get "em!


Title: Re: Softball in the NCAA's
Post by: txram on May 19, 2017, 04:56:27 pm
Our game will start late as the Utah-BYU game is still going on.  BYU up 2-1 in the 6th.  Some great defense by both teams, but BYU has outhit the Utes.

Update:  Utah tied it up in the bottom of the 7th, then went on and won 3-2 with a pinch hit.  Now THAT's NCAA playoff softball!

Our game will start at about 5:50.


Title: Re: Softball in the NCAA's
Post by: txram on May 19, 2017, 05:41:19 pm
Aughinbaugh is in the circle vs Mississippi State with Quense at 1b and Shaw in RF.  Van Hoven is DH for Vergona.  We are Visitors.

Silkwood, a lefty with a 2.01 ERA and a 2:1 K:BB ratio is in the circle for MS.  They have a team .279 BA in a tough SEC conference.  They are very successful in SBs, especially their leading hitter, and leadoff hitter, Robinson.

I won't be able do do play by play for more than a couple of innings.

In the top of the 1st, Canessa lined out the 1st pitch to the SS.  Hughes K'd, as did Shaw.

In the bottom of the 1st, Aughinbaugh gave up a single to Robinson, who stole 2b easily.  A perfect bunt single moved the runner.  A WP caught the runner off 3b in a rundown, but the other runner moved to 3b.  Better handled than the other day but still not handled properly.  If it had been, the runner wouldn't have gotten to 3b.  Aughinbaugh got a GB out, then gave up a double and a run.  A foul out ended it.

Rams down 1-0 after 1.


Title: Re: Softball in the NCAA's
Post by: txram on May 19, 2017, 06:18:33 pm
In the 2nd, Johnston singled off the wall to lead it off.  She fell rounding 1b or it would have been a double.  That cost us a run.  Mayer flied out.  Van Hoven singled.  Quense got an infield single to load the bases with 1 out.  Skrepenak K'd.  Aughinbaugh grounded out.  3 LOB.

In the bottom half, Aughinbaugh gave up a single, got 2 fly ball outs, gave up another single, the runner stole 2b, then got a pop up.

Rams down 1-0 after 2.

I'm unable to continue play by play.  Anyone feel free to post updates.

Here are the links:  http://www.espn.com/watch/player?id=3079294&bucketId=-250728499 (http://www.espn.com/watch/player?id=3079294&bucketId=-250728499)
http://stats.statbroadcast.com/statmonitr/?id=175089 (http://stats.statbroadcast.com/statmonitr/?id=175089)


Title: Re: Softball in the NCAA's
Post by: Scott W 86 on May 19, 2017, 06:18:48 pm
If you're  looking....game on ESPN 3

-download WatchESPN app
-supply your cable provider....and your cable password
-go to live events


Title: Re: Softball in the NCAA's
Post by: Scott W 86 on May 19, 2017, 06:41:46 pm
Rams 3-1 in top of 3rd.  First and second, one out.  MSU changel pitcher.


Title: Re: Softball in the NCAA's
Post by: Scott W 86 on May 19, 2017, 06:46:40 pm
4-1...bases loaded, only one out....still top 3rd.  MSU just benched their SS for a mental error.


Title: Re: Softball in the NCAA's
Post by: txram on May 19, 2017, 07:12:19 pm
4-1...bases loaded, only one out....still top 3rd.  MSU just benched their SS for a mental error.
Good thing Bridget doesn't do that.  Tough coach!


Title: Re: Softball in the NCAA's
Post by: Scott W 86 on May 19, 2017, 07:22:48 pm
8-1....!  Top the 4th.  Bases loaded for Fordham...2 out.

MSU on 3rd pitcher


Title: Re: Softball in the NCAA's
Post by: txram on May 19, 2017, 07:35:54 pm
8-1....!  Top the 4th.  Bases loaded for Fordham...2 out.

MSU on 3rd pitcher
That's more like it!  MS is ranked 30 by the way.

I think we were tight and tired last night and Quense wasn't hitting her areas or with much movement.


Title: Re: Softball in the NCAA's
Post by: Scott W 86 on May 19, 2017, 07:56:39 pm
Still 8-1...top 5th. 2 Rams on base with one out.


Title: Re: Softball in the NCAA's
Post by: Scott W 86 on May 19, 2017, 08:01:30 pm
9-1....MSU batting now.


Title: Re: Softball in the NCAA's
Post by: Scott W 86 on May 19, 2017, 08:13:32 pm
Top of the 7th...Fordham batting....9-3 Rams


Title: Re: Softball in the NCAA's
Post by: fordham81 on May 19, 2017, 08:27:41 pm
Rams win. Face BYU in a little while....

EAM   1   2   3   4   5   6   7      R   H   E   L
FOR   0   0   4   4   0   1   0      9   14   1   13
MS   1   0   0   0   0   2   0      3   13   0   9


FORDHAM OFFENSIVE LEADERS
PLAYER   AB   HIGHLIGHTS
VAN HOVEN   3-5   2B, 2 RBI
JOHNSTON   3-5   1 RBI
MAYER   2-4   2 RBI
SKREPENAK   2-4   1 RBI
SHAW   1-4   1 RBI
AUGHINBAUGH   1-3   1 RBI


Title: Re: Softball in the NCAA's
Post by: joesunfish on May 19, 2017, 08:29:53 pm
Wow! What an exciting game! Our frosh pitcher handled the pressure superbly.

We now play BYU. Let's do it!


Title: Re: Softball in the NCAA's
Post by: Scott W 86 on May 19, 2017, 08:32:32 pm
9-3 final in the elimination game.  Goodbye Mississippi State!  Rams face BYU next.

I hope our off topic Moran talk created no bad mojo.

BTW...Rams slogan after yesterday's run rule loss was ""Just flush it!" ...they had a brilliant  video of the team leaving ladies room stalls.  Very funny, very clever...this group is on top of things.

Congratulations Bridget and team.


Title: Re: Softball in the NCAA's
Post by: txram on May 19, 2017, 08:35:20 pm
We play #21 BYU next at about 9 pm.


Title: Re: Softball in the NCAA's
Post by: vinnys on May 19, 2017, 08:56:46 pm
nice bounce back     keep it going


Title: Re: Softball in the NCAA's
Post by: fordham81 on May 19, 2017, 09:22:02 pm
Rams down 3-0 top of first....all runs scored with 2 outs


Title: Re: Softball in the NCAA's
Post by: joesunfish on May 19, 2017, 10:14:13 pm
11-0, BYU. Rams up bottom of the third.

The 8-run rule applies starting in the fifth inning.


Title: Re: Softball in the NCAA's
Post by: joesunfish on May 19, 2017, 10:22:29 pm
Canesa (Sp?) triple with runner on second scores Fordham's first run.

11- 1 BYU...Top of the fourth.


Title: Re: Softball in the NCAA's
Post by: joesunfish on May 19, 2017, 10:39:55 pm
11 - 1...Top of the fifth


Title: Re: Softball in the NCAA's
Post by: joesunfish on May 19, 2017, 10:59:07 pm
BYU wins 12 - 1 in five innings.

Congratulations to Bridget, her coaches and the team for a terrific season and a solid win over
higher-ranked Mississippi State earlier today.

txram, it's all yours! Again, thank you for providing the opportunity and motivation to follow our Women's Softball team.


Title: Re: Softball in the NCAA's
Post by: txram on May 19, 2017, 11:37:31 pm
We didn't meet our goal of getting to the super regionals, but a good year.  Even if healthy, we wouldn't have gotten further.  Bottom line is we don't have the pitching to do so.  Its good enough for A10 play and a few upsets here and there but not good enough to advance in the regionals.  We haven't had one who could get us there since Jen Mineau.  If she had the bats we had this year, she might have done it.  Even though Auginbagh won vs MS, she gave up 13 hits.  She scattered them, stayed away from the big ones for the most part, gave up only 1 BB, and pitched out of jams.

I would to like to have seen how much they would have gotten better if we still had Coach Winter as a pitching coach.  She, by the way, still pitches for the pro team, Akron Racers and was All-American at Notre Dame.  Big loss in my opinion, and it wasn't her decision.


Title: Re: Softball in the NCAA's
Post by: txram on May 20, 2017, 12:09:58 am
Rams win. Face BYU in a little while....

EAM   1   2   3   4   5   6   7      R   H   E   L
FOR   0   0   4   4   0   1   0      9   14   1   13
MS   1   0   0   0   0   2   0      3   13   0   9


FORDHAM OFFENSIVE LEADERS
PLAYER   AB   HIGHLIGHTS
VAN HOVEN   3-5   2B, 2 RBI
JOHNSTON   3-5   1 RBI
MAYER   2-4   2 RBI
SKREPENAK   2-4   1 RBI
SHAW   1-4   1 RBI
AUGHINBAUGH   1-3   1 RBI
Shaw's RBI was a new season record of 74.  Am glad she got it.


Title: Re: Softball in the NCAA's
Post by: txram on May 20, 2017, 04:02:24 pm
Here's the SID's write up and box scores of the last two games.  http://www.fordhamsports.com/news/2017/5/20/softballs-season-ends-with-third-place-finish-in-salt-lake-city-regional.aspx?path=softball (http://www.fordhamsports.com/news/2017/5/20/softballs-season-ends-with-third-place-finish-in-salt-lake-city-regional.aspx?path=softball)

Included are a list of 9 records we broke with this year's team.  Despite the final outcome, quite a performance!


Title: Re: Softball in the NCAA's
Post by: ace93 on May 20, 2017, 04:13:21 pm
I think this team overachieved. Maybe not relative to conference predict, I can't remember what they were, but relative to what would have been expected after all the injuries. The injuries were to some key people and the team overcame them.


Title: Re: Softball in the NCAA's
Post by: txram on May 20, 2017, 05:18:07 pm
I think this team overachieved. Maybe not relative to conference predict, I can't remember what they were, but relative to what would have been expected after all the injuries. The injuries were to some key people and the team overcame them.
Ace, we were predicted to win the A10 by a vote of 9-1.  Once the injury bug hit, I was almost surprised we did win it, so, to that extent, I guess one could say we overachieved.  We almost didn't though, even with Van Hoven returning to at least hit.  And this was a weak A10.

One of the many differences between us and a Power 5 team is depth.  I forget which team it was, but one in the NCAAs lost 9 players from last year due to graduation, then lost 4 this year due to injury, yet they still made it back.

I think Bridget really thought she had a shot this year to get past the NCAA regionals.   As I said previously, we didn't have the stoppers in the circle though, regardless of what we did defensively or at bat. 

In 2010, Jen Mineau lost in the NCAAs to #7 Oklahoma 1-0 and 2-0, the latter game on 2 unearned runs, while beating Maryland 5-2.  She pitched all 3 games.  We wound up ranked #27 that year, mostly because of her.  Without a similar pitcher, even with a healthy team, our final outcome this year wouldn't have been different.  That doesn't mean I'm not very proud of this team, however.

Next year it'll be tough to win the A10 with the loss of all of our seniors.

I guess I'm sounding like those of us who post about the '71 men's BB team.  :D

 


Title: Re: Softball in the NCAA's
Post by: ace93 on May 20, 2017, 06:18:00 pm
Ha ha. Not as bad as those who post about 71.

Overachieve might be a bit much, perhaps I should just say persevered. I thought we were done when Van Hoven  went down. She is tough to replace. Figueroa was a big loss too.


Title: Re: Softball in the NCAA's
Post by: txram on May 20, 2017, 06:49:19 pm
Ha ha. Not as bad as those who post about 71.

Overachieve might be a bit much, perhaps I should just say persevered. I thought we were done when Van Hoven  went down. She is tough to replace. Figueroa was a big loss too.
Agree.

Utah beat BYU 14-0 in 6 to win the regional.


Title: Re: Softball in the NCAA's
Post by: txram on May 20, 2017, 10:07:05 pm
Elsewhere, Fairfield, whom we beat 2-1 early in the year, only lost to #13 seed LSU 2-1.  LSU then lost to Louisiana Lafayette at home.

Albany only lost to #16 seed Alabama by 5-1.

Lehigh, whom we beat 4-2, during the year lost 8-0 to UCLA and 10-8 to CSU Fullerton.

North Dakota State upset #10 Oklahoma, then Tulsa, whom we beat 7-6 early in the year, beat North Dakota State, thus making the regional finals vs Oklahoma.  (update:  Tulsa was up 4-2 in the 10th but OK tied it again on a 2-run HR then won on another 2-run HR)  They play again on Monday.

Alabama beat Minnesota 1-0 on a terrible ball-4 call, walking in the winning run.  Minnesota continues to get screwed.  Bama eventually eliminated them in another 1-0 game and won the regional.

Florida int'l, whom we lost to 4-2 during the year, won 1 game in their region but was then eliminated.

#15 seed Baylor, whom we beat 1-0 to start the year, made their regional finals and won it.
A Baylor pitcher, Gia Rodoni, has thrown 2 regional no hitters, the last against James Madison.

Updates to come.

#1 seed Florida, #2 Arizona, #3 Oregon, #4 Florida State, #5 UCLA, #6 Washington, #7 Auburn, #8 Tennessee, #9 Texas A&M, #11 Utah, #12 Mississippi, #14 Kentucky, #15 Baylor, and #16 Alabama so far are moving on.  All were hosts and favorites.  It shows good committee selections, and/or the advantages of playing at home.   

#13 LSU's games are delayed.  They have to beat La-Lafayette twice.  (update:They beat them once late Sunday night.  Will play again on Monday.)  #10 OK will have to beat Tulsa on Monday after beating them in extras today.  It'd be the first super regional for Tulsa if they win.


Title: Re: Softball in the NCAA's
Post by: joesunfish on May 21, 2017, 11:21:08 pm
Thanks for the excellent summary, txram.


Title: Re: Softball in the NCAA's
Post by: txram on May 22, 2017, 12:46:41 pm
Odd rule:  if LSU and La-Lafayette get rained out today, since each team has 1 loss, the higher seeded team, LSU moves on.

Tulsa outhit OK 8-6 but lost 3-0 so #10 OK moves on.

#13 LSU will move on too as they beat La-Lafayette 5-1. 

That means every seeded and home team moves on, for the first time ever.

Here's the Super Regionals bracket:  http://www.ncaa.com/interactive-bracket/softball/d1/2017 (http://www.ncaa.com/interactive-bracket/softball/d1/2017)  It's the best of 3 with some games starting Thursday, other Friday.


Title: Re: Softball in the NCAA's
Post by: txram on May 26, 2017, 04:30:06 pm
In the first day of the Super Regionals, #16 Alabama upset #1 seed Florida 3-0 with all runs unearned, and #5 UCLA beat#12 Ole Miss 8-7 in 11, twice coming back from 2-runs down and 2 out.

On day 2,#4 Florida State beat #13 LSU 3-1.
Florida came back to win vs Alabama 2-0 and force a game 3.
#2 Arizona had a walkoff 3-2 win vs #15 Baylor.
#3 Oregon beat #14 Kentucky 4-0.
#5 UCLA eliminated #12 Ole Miss 1-0 and moves on.
#6 Washington won 10-4 vs #11 Utah.
#8 Tennessee beat #9 Texas A&M 8-1.
#10 Oklahoma beat #7 Auburn 4-0.




Title: Re: Softball in the NCAA's
Post by: txram on May 27, 2017, 08:08:06 pm
On day 3, #10 Oklahoma eliminated #7 Auburn 5-2 and move on.  Oklahoma is the defending national champs.
#1 Florida beat #16 Alabama 2-1 and moves on.
#3 Oregon came back from being down 5-2 after 6 to beat #14 Kentucky 6-5 and move on.
#13 LSU remained alive with a 1-0 win over#4 Florida State.
#9 Texas A&M came from behind to beat #8 Tennessee 6-5 and force a game 3.
#15 Baylor also came from behind to beat #2 Arizona 6-4, forcing a game 3.
#11 Utah beat #6 Washington 9-8 in a slugfest, requiring a game 3.




Title: Re: Softball in the NCAA's
Post by: Scott W 86 on May 28, 2017, 11:54:28 am
In the first day of the Super Regionals, #16 Alabama upset #1 seed Florida 3-0 with all runs unearned, and #5 UCLA beat#12 Ole Miss 8-7 in 11, twice coming back from 2-runs down and 2 out.

On day 2,#4 Florida State beat #13 LSU 3-1.
Florida came back to win vs Alabama 2-0 and force a game 3.
#2 Arizona had a walkoff 3-2 win vs #15 Baylor.
#3 Oregon beat #14 Kentucky 4-0.
#5 UCLA eliminated #12 Ole Miss 1-0 and moves on.
#6 Washington won 10-4 vs #11 Utah.
#8 Tennessee beat #9 Texas A&M 8-1.
#10 Oklahoma beat #7 Auburn 4-0.




Tex... these updates help to fortify your point earlier on the difficulty of a private school being a consistent Top 25 contender.    However, should Fordham decide to keep softball as a top 3-4 athletic priority .... it seems to me that the lack of these same giants in the Northeast opens an opportunity to be a consistent top program in the Northeast.  From that perch it gives us the chance to occasionally crack that top 25 and go deeper in the tournament on strong years. 

Seems like an achievable goal with prioritization, planning and resources.   In a sport where the diploma generally holds higher value than top men's sports .... Fordham has a leg up due to our academic strength.


Title: Re: Softball in the NCAA's
Post by: Rambart on May 28, 2017, 01:06:52 pm
Tex... these updates help to fortify your point earlier on the difficulty of a private school being a consistent Top 25 contender.    However, should Fordham decide to keep softball as a top 3-4 athletic priority .... it seems to me that the lack of these same giants in the Northeast opens an opportunity to be a consistent top program in the Northeast.  From that perch it gives us the chance to occasionally crack that top 25 and go deeper in the tournament on strong years. 

Seems like an achievable goal with prioritization, planning and resources.   In a sport where the diploma generally holds higher value than top men's sports .... Fordham has a leg up due to our academic strength.

The common thread here is that a winning program attracts talent - I would hope that with all of the Rams recent success, there would be increased interest from many talented players in the northeast and even nationally.

TX pointed out previously that dominant pitching is pretty much essential to advance in the NCAA's - Great example of this would be the Hofstra team's of about 5 years ago which went into the Super Regional's on the dominant pitching of Olivia Galati.
It can be done


Title: Re: Softball in the NCAA's
Post by: txram on May 28, 2017, 03:07:18 pm
Tex... these updates help to fortify your point earlier on the difficulty of a private school being a consistent Top 25 contender.    However, should Fordham decide to keep softball as a top 3-4 athletic priority .... it seems to me that the lack of these same giants in the Northeast opens an opportunity to be a consistent top program in the Northeast.  From that perch it gives us the chance to occasionally crack that top 25 and go deeper in the tournament on strong years. 

Seems like an achievable goal with prioritization, planning and resources.   In a sport where the diploma generally holds higher value than top men's sports .... Fordham has a leg up due to our academic strength.
Scott, I know you've contacted Bridget about a player in the DFW area.  I used to scout the best teams in Texas, which are loaded with talent.  I found it a waste of time though, as Bridget seems to prefer the try and get the best out of the Northeast.  She gets to see them more often too.

When she got Paige Ortiz from here about 6 years ago, she saw her hit a bunch of HRs in a tournament in Colorado. 

If Bridget has a connection with a team or coach, as she does in Washington, that has helped. 

Texas Glory and Impact Gold teams in Dallas and Houston respectively always send a dozen to top 25 programs.

Other than Assistant Coach Inouye coming down once because she had contacts from having been at So MS, I'm not sure anyone has ever been to Texas.

I try to publicize Fordham Softball/academics/NYC as best I can without violating booster regulations, which I've accidentally done in the past.

Part of the national recruiting problem is that there can only be limited contact until after Junior year so unless somebody knows of Fordham directly or indirectly, the best already commit by that time.

To get the best, you have to find players who play against the best.  We can be a big dog in a small A10 pond, but we don't get the superior pitcher(s) every year that the Big 5 schools get and we certainly don't get the depth.  My guess is that the administration is more than happy where we are.

Not directly related, but I just read we play Alabama away next year.  The last time we played them, we beat them 8-5 at Bahoshy Field in 2012 when they were eventually #1.


Title: Re: Softball in the NCAA's
Post by: txram on May 28, 2017, 03:18:50 pm
The common thread here is that a winning program attracts talent - I would hope that with all of the Rams recent success, there would be increased interest from many talented players in the northeast and even nationally.

TX pointed out previously that dominant pitching is pretty much essential to advance in the NCAA's - Great example of this would be the Hofstra team's of about 5 years ago which went into the Super Regional's on the dominant pitching of Olivia Galati.
It can be done
Olivia Galati, a Long Islander, was Hofstra's version of our Jen Mineau, but, unlike Jen, she could hit and had a little more all-around support.  All of Hofstra's players were from the Northeast, however, so, while rare, it can be done.  If Jen had developed a changeup the way Olivia did, it might have been the difference in getting by Oklahoma to the Supers, but we still would have had to score on Ricketts.


Title: Re: Softball in the NCAA's
Post by: txram on May 28, 2017, 03:27:09 pm
On the final day, #13 LSU upset #4 Florida State 6-4 to move on.  (I hate anything Florida State and have a friend who teaches at LSU so I loved this one!)

#9 A&M came from behind again to beat #8 Tennessee and move on.  A&M's winning pitcher, Trinity Harrington's dad died 3 days ago.  A&M had an ESPN top 10 catch by CF Erica Russell.

Similar to UMass vs us, #15 Baylor had the potential winning run called back vs #2 Arizona when a runner missed 3b.  AZ played typical Coach Candrea "smallball" and took the lead in the 6th.  Baylor came back with "bigball" and took the lead back in the 7th on a 3-run HR, winning 6-5 and moving on.  NCAA playoff softball is the best!  That was only Arizona's 3rd loss at home all year.  Not that it matters a whole lot, but Baylor winning helps our final RPI. 


Title: Re: Softball in the NCAA's
Post by: txram on May 28, 2017, 10:36:11 pm
Women's College World Series participants:
[1] Florida
[3] Oregon
[5] UCLA
[6] Washington which beat #11 Utah 2-1. Potential tying run thrown out at 3b trying to steal. Not on any of these catchers.  They have cannons.
[9] Texas A&M
[10] Oklahoma
[13] LSU
[15] Baylor

Its 1 vs 9
3 vs 6
5 vs 13
10 vs 15

Here are the brackets and times (CT):  https://fastpitch.tv/2017-wcws-d1-softball-tournament (https://fastpitch.tv/2017-wcws-d1-softball-tournament)


Title: Re: Softball in the NCAA's
Post by: friarsbob1 on May 29, 2017, 11:46:48 am
Go Baylor! Great win last night


Title: Re: Softball in the NCAA's
Post by: RickFC77 on May 29, 2017, 12:04:30 pm
Saw Galati pitch in HS and she was dominant. For years Hofstra, through HC Bill Edwards had a pipeline to top LI talent through his connections with the top travel programs.


Title: Re: Softball in the NCAA's
Post by: txram on June 01, 2017, 02:49:54 pm
#1 Florida run ruled #9 Texas A&M 8-0 in 5 innings.  They have the best pitching (Kelly Barnhill was POY) and defense in the country and finally got some offense to go with it.

#13 LSU beat #5 UCLA 2-1 But they had a runner out at home who was safe.  A LSU runner, out at home, was called safe due to catcher obstruction.  The catcher had the ball before runner got there.  Two bad calls by ump cost UCLA.  They need replay at this tournament.

#6 Washington beat #3 Oregon 3-1.

#10 Oklahoma beat #15 Baylor 6-3 despite poor defense by both teams.  Oklahoma had 4 errors; Baylor had 5 mental errors.  Pretty unusual at this level.


Title: Re: Softball in the NCAA's
Post by: txram on June 02, 2017, 09:30:11 pm
In the winners' bracket, #1 Florida beat #13 LSU 7-0.  Another bad call by an ump that replay showed was wrong.  This time it didn't mean the game though.  Florida's pitcher, Barnhill, who was national POY, has 2 shutouts in the world series.

#10 Oklahoma beat #6 Washington 3-1.  Another ump error gave OK a run.  A player ran 4 feet out of the baseline to avoid a tag at home. 

In the losers' bracket, #5 UCLA beat #9 Texas A&M 8-2, eliminating the latter.  Hall of Famer and UCLA pitching coach Lisa Fernandez got ejected and was given a 2-game suspension for bumping an ump in an argument over a questionable catcher obstruction non-call.  One doesn't see that ever in softball.  UCLA then lost 1-0 vs #6 Washington and were held to 2 hits.  A HR by Ali Aguilar, an All-American and Team USA member, won it.  UCLA is eliminated.

#3 Oregon beat #15 Baylor 7-4 and will face #13 LSU.  Baylor had the bases loaded in the 7th with no outs and couldn't score.

Oregon beat LSU by 4-1 and play Oklahoma in the semi finals.  No umpiring controversies in this one that I recall.

Washington plays Florida in the other semi final.

Washington and Oregon must win 2 games to get to the finals.


Title: Re: Softball in the NCAA's
Post by: txram on June 04, 2017, 03:46:58 pm
In one semi-final game, #1 Florida beat #6 Washington 5-2 on a 2-hitter, Washington scoring with 2 out in the 7th on an error and a HR.  They weren't even using their ace, Barnhill.  Gourley, a lefty, got her first start and had 10 K's.  Florida moves on to the finals.

#10, defending champs, Oklahoma beat #3 Oregon 4-2 with 4 runs in the 5th and move on to the finals.  Oklahoma has been hot lately and obviously playing better than their #10 seed.  I don't see them beating Florida though.

It'll be best of 3 finals starting Monday.

I realize at this point, there is no direct Fordham softball connection other than to say we lost to Florida 4-0 early in the year.  We faced Gourley, getting 1 hit off of her (by Hughes).  Mayer was the only batter who didn't strike out against her.  I thought I'd finish the NCAA thread though the final game.  It'd be good to say we played the eventual world champs once more, as we did Alabama in 2012, beating them 8-5, one of their only 7 losses that year.


Title: Re: Softball in the NCAA's
Post by: joesunfish on June 05, 2017, 05:33:33 am
txram, thanks to you, I watched Washington beat UCLA the other night, and then my bride and I watched the two games to which you referred yesterday. Florida is scary good, (no great!) and the Ducks vs. the Sooners game was a nail-biter and outstanding. I've always
loved softball, and have played and coached it, but these gals are in a whole different galaxy. When that one player hit a 400+' home run, which traveled just to the right and beyond the grandstand in right field in the Washington vs UCLA game, I couldn't believe my eyes! It was amazing and very exciting!


Title: Re: Softball in the NCAA's
Post by: fordham81 on June 05, 2017, 10:04:50 am
The talent and skill levels amongst these teams is incredible. We may be strong in the A10- but this is at a whole different level.


Title: Re: Softball in the NCAA's
Post by: txram on June 05, 2017, 10:49:28 am
The talent and skill levels amongst these teams is incredible. We may be strong in the A10- but this is at a whole different level.
+1  Both individually and across the board.  The best of the best.  Several are on Team USA.

One of the big differences is that pitchers can get in the low 70's (equivalent to 100+ in baseball) with movement, vs A10 level usually being low to mid-60's at the most.

Interesting fact:  in 6 games, the WCWS has had 55,000 in attendance.  The women's bb 8 game regionals had 38,000.


Title: Re: Softball in the NCAA's
Post by: txram on June 05, 2017, 09:09:58 pm
I was about to post about Oklahoma winning, but...

In game 1, Florida down 2-1 and down to their last strike in the 7th, tied it on a looping pop fly that fell in with the outfielders playing deep, scoring the runner from 1b, who had walked.

Oklahoma hitters moved up in the box and got a HR, a double and single on Barnhill's 74 mph rise ball to score their 2 runs.  Barnhill throws with a hop, which is illegal, but she hasn't been called on it even once in the post season.

Both SSs are incredible!  Unlike baseball, they have less than 3 seconds to field the ball and throw the runner out.

In the top of the 12th, Oklahoma got a double and a HR off Gourley, who replaced Barnhill, to go up 4-2.  Florida had 2 on and 2 out with 2 strikes in the bottom of the 12th and a double tied the game again.  Unbelievable!

This is the longest game in WCWS history, and maybe the best.

Oklahoma loaded the bases in the 15th and couldn't score.  They loaded them again in the 16th and couldn't score, having 1 runner just barely forced out at home.

In the top of the 17th, Oklahoma got a 3-run HR, their 3rd HR tonight against a staff that only gave up 7 in 66 games.  Florida loaded the bases in the bottom of the 17th, but could only get 1 run.  Oklahoma wins 7-5 in 17 innings and go up 1-0 in a best of 3.

Quite a game!


Title: Re: Softball in the NCAA's
Post by: joesunfish on June 05, 2017, 10:54:29 pm
txram, I'm watching and the announcer just said that 13 innings is the longest game in WS history.

Question...When the first pitcher was replaced in the 12th, did I hear correctly, that she was replaced by the same pitcher, who started the game? Then, I thought I heard that the other starting pitcher could not come in and pitch again. I was unaware of different substitution rules, but it's late, I'm tired, and maybe I heard incorrectly. Would you clarify please.

What an incredible game!


Title: Re: Softball in the NCAA's
Post by: txram on June 05, 2017, 11:54:13 pm
txram, I'm watching and the announcer just said that 13 innings is the longest game in WS history.

Question...When the first pitcher was replaced in the 12th, did I hear correctly, that she was replaced by the same pitcher, who started the game? Then, I thought I heard that the other starting pitcher could not come in and pitch again. I was unaware of different substitution rules, but it's late, I'm tired, and maybe I heard incorrectly. Would you clarify please.

What an incredible game!
If the starter is replaced, she can come back in, but the replaced pitcher can't then re-enter unless she stays in the game at another position.  If she comes out of the game, she can't come back in.  Sometimes coaches will move them to the DH role so they technically remain in the game.


Title: Re: Softball in the NCAA's
Post by: joesunfish on June 06, 2017, 05:36:24 am
Understood. Thanks.

I fell asleep during the 14th inning; woke up at the top of the 17th and turned off the set; just checked the score and found out that the Sooners beat the Gators 7-5 in the 17th! Oy vay!


Title: Re: Softball in the NCAA's
Post by: txram on June 06, 2017, 10:38:00 pm
#10 Oklahoma won, defending their championship with a come from behind 5-4 win over #1 Florida.  Both teams went to their #3 pitchers and even went to their #4's as the best were worn out from last night's 17 inning affair, throwing a combined 496 pitches.  Oklahoma brought in their #2 to close it out though.  Great series.

Oklahoma, as a #10 seed was the highest seed ever to win it.  They are only the 4th team to go back-to-back.  They only lose 1 player to graduation too.

As for common opponents, Okahoma beat Tulsa 1-0, 6-4 and 3-0; we beat Tulsa 7-6.  They lost to Arizona 4-3; we lost to them 8-1.  They beat Mississippi State 5-3; we beat them 9-3.  They split with Baylor, winning 3-2, 6-0 and 6-3 while losing 4-3; we beat them 1-0.  They beat Florida 7-5 and 5-4; we lost to them 4-0.

And so, my NCAA coverage has finally ended.  If you missed seeing this WCWS, you missed the best of the best.


Title: Re: Softball in the NCAA's
Post by: RickFC77 on June 07, 2017, 09:49:40 am
TX,

Thanks for all you do throughout the year.  Give your typing fingers a rest so you are ready for fall ball!


Title: Re: Softball in the NCAA's
Post by: Rambart on June 07, 2017, 11:32:12 am
TX,

Thanks for all you do throughout the year.  Give your typing fingers a rest so you are ready for fall ball!
+1 - Nice job with detailed coverage as always

Interesting to look at the rosters for both Oklahoma & Florida - Both very diverse geographically -

Sooners have 8 players from California, 4 players from OK along with players from TX, NM, MO, AL.

Florida has 6 players from California, 7 from Florida along with players from GA, TX, NY

Seems mandatory now to be able to recruit good/great players nationwide in order to have a team that is at this level of play


Title: Re: Softball in the NCAA's
Post by: txram on June 12, 2017, 04:21:55 pm
In the final coaches' poll, Oklahoma was #1.  As to our opponents, Florida, whom we lost to was #2; Baylor, whom we beat was #7; Utah, whom we lost to, was #14; BYU, whom we lost to was #21; Tulsa, whom we beat was #22; Mississippi State, whom we beat, was tied for #30; and Florida Int'l, whom we lost to, was #34.  (So 3-4 vs top 34 teams)

I haven't seen a final RPI yet to see where we wound up.  While different polls, all of the above opponents moved up from the comparable May 14 RPI except for Florida and BYU who dropped 1 spot, so, in theory, we should be better than our then #44.