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Title: Fordham vs. LIU Brooklyn Pre-Game/Game Thread 11/13/17
Post by: PeterMartin08 on November 11, 2017, 09:50:27 am
Next up. LIU Brooklyn just dropped one last night to Tulane, 102-96. That may give a pretty good gauge of both teams.

Former walk-on (there's talent, everywhere) Raiquan Clark had 34 on 14/20 shooting. That's pretty serious.

RS Senior guard Joel Hernandez is back from injury, dropped 23.

Team shot 38/76 (50%) from the field.

Another game that had been marked with a sharpie W, doesn't feel like it anymore.


Title: Re: Fordham vs. LIU Brooklyn Pre-Game/Game Thread 11/13/17
Post by: RamFan78 on November 11, 2017, 09:54:22 am
They have some talent no doubt and guys that can score. They are a better team than Miami Ohio so its going to take a major reversal of last nights play to have a chance.


Title: Re: Fordham vs. LIU Brooklyn Pre-Game/Game Thread 11/13/17
Post by: PeterMartin08 on November 11, 2017, 10:07:56 am
They have some talent no doubt and guys that can score. They are a better team than Miami Ohio so its going to take a major reversal of last nights play to have a chance.

we can't dismiss any expectations altogether, right? Fordham played a 'D-' game, shot the ball as badly as you can, and lost by 1 in an ugly opener.

LIU Brooklyn is low-level D1. Fordham may be low-level D1, I don't think so. To say it'll take a "major reversal to have a chance" is not accurate. Emotional, but not accurate.


Title: Re: Fordham vs. LIU Brooklyn Pre-Game/Game Thread 11/13/17
Post by: Rich93 on November 11, 2017, 10:15:26 am
If we are halfway through the game and chuba Slanina and Bunting are not rebounding or scoring do we see a lineup of Chartouny Evans Hicks Raut Tavares?   Need to light a fire under our bigs if they are so passive on the boards again.


Title: Re: Fordham vs. LIU Brooklyn Pre-Game/Game Thread 11/13/17
Post by: 85 on November 11, 2017, 10:26:58 am
Each one of those guys averages more than 5 personal fouls per 40 minutes over the past season and yesterday. You just cant win if these guys take 10 to 15 fouls every game. Its too many free throws and we cant possibly offset it because they dont contribute on offense. Rich is right on the lineup change.


Title: Re: Fordham vs. LIU Brooklyn Pre-Game/Game Thread 11/13/17
Post by: greenwood on November 11, 2017, 10:40:42 am
You don't want to reward a guy for a subpar effort but I keep remembering Slanina being all-Universe the first 4 minutes against Dayton last year, and how he often seemed to contribute early in games. Raut didn't do anything to lose his starting spot, so maybe switch Slanina for Ohams Monday?


Title: Re: Fordham vs. LIU Brooklyn Pre-Game/Game Thread 11/13/17
Post by: Rich93 on November 11, 2017, 10:54:51 am
I donít think you need to make changes starting Monday.  Read them the riot act tell them get it together or ride the pine.  Then send them out there.  If they donít do their job tether them to the bench go small.  Iíve heard Pekarek will be back Monday. 


Title: Re: Fordham vs. LIU Brooklyn Pre-Game/Game Thread 11/13/17
Post by: PeterMartin08 on November 11, 2017, 10:58:28 am
You don't want to reward a guy for a subpar effort but I keep remembering Slanina being all-Universe the first 4 minutes against Dayton last year, and how he often seemed to contribute early in games. Raut didn't do anything to lose his starting spot, so maybe switch Slanina for Ohams Monday?

Not that interested in who "starts" - With the exception of Chartouny, I don't think anyone deserves to be a surefire starter. Don't think Raut did anything to win or lose a starting spot, was surprised he played 30 minutes and Havsa 7.

Yes, impressed wth Tavares but I can make a case that he's a jolt off the bench after the first media timeout.


Title: Re: Fordham vs. LIU Brooklyn Pre-Game/Game Thread 11/13/17
Post by: Vinseiro2 on November 11, 2017, 12:03:56 pm
LIU went down to the wire in New Orleans against Tulane, coming back from a double-digit deficit to get to within 2 before Tulane reeled off 4 FTs to seal the win.   As usual, LIU pushes the score and won't keep us in the game like Miami did.  They are not big and Tulane killed them with second-chance points.   However, that's not something we do well.  This would be the team to switch things up against, but I doubt we'll see that.


Title: Re: Fordham vs. LIU Brooklyn Pre-Game/Game Thread 11/13/17
Post by: RamFan78 on November 11, 2017, 03:30:07 pm
we can't dismiss any expectations altogether, right? Fordham played a 'D-' game, shot the ball as badly as you can, and lost by 1 in an ugly opener.

LIU Brooklyn is low-level D1. Fordham may be low-level D1, I don't think so. To say it'll take a "major reversal to have a chance" is not accurate. Emotional, but not accurate.


When you shoot as bad as bad as we did and get outrebounded as bad as we did Then to me that requires a major reversal. Sorry not emotional but realistic.


Title: Re: Fordham vs. LIU Brooklyn Pre-Game/Game Thread 11/13/17
Post by: PeterMartin08 on November 11, 2017, 03:41:21 pm
When you shoot as bad as bad as we did and get outrebounded as bad as we did Then to me that requires a major reversal. Sorry not emotional but realistic.

Sorry, that makes no sense. They wonít shoot 3/24 again. Be sensible.


Title: Re: Fordham vs. LIU Brooklyn Pre-Game/Game Thread 11/13/17
Post by: 85 on November 11, 2017, 05:41:26 pm
When you shoot as bad as bad as we did and get outrebounded as bad as we did Then to me that requires a major reversal. Sorry not emotional but realistic.

Well, when you look at the metrics, we only played the three (3) bigs a total of 39 minutes combined. So if that is the game plan, we essentially only have one (1)  big on the floor the entire game. Raut doesnt appear to be a rebounder and Pekarek plays soft. Guards will have to significantly help out in this area.


Title: Re: Fordham vs. LIU Brooklyn Pre-Game/Game Thread 11/13/17
Post by: Richie68 on November 11, 2017, 07:50:24 pm
Well, Tavares has shown that he can rebound with 7 rebounds each in the exhibition and against Miami.  He is 6'6" tall and athletic.  We know that Chartouny is an excellent rebounding guard.  The need then is to get either some of our big men to do their job or others to take up the slack.  Evans is touted as the replacement for Hawkins who was an excellent rebounder last year.  Hopefully, he can help out with this task.  Maybe Raut can learn to rebound well.  He had 4 against Miami, not too bad.


Title: Re: Fordham vs. LIU Brooklyn Pre-Game/Game Thread 11/13/17
Post by: FU85 on November 11, 2017, 09:44:36 pm
Second game of the season and we are facing a must win situation. Gut check time on Monday. We can't be 0-2 heading to Jamaica because that can be 0-5 in a heartbeat.


Title: LIU @ Tulane ESPN3 Replay
Post by: pjd on November 12, 2017, 12:36:31 am
http://www.espn.com/watch/_/id/3171623/liu-brooklyn-vs-tulane-m-basketball


Title: Re: Fordham vs. LIU Brooklyn Pre-Game/Game Thread 11/13/17
Post by: pjd on November 12, 2017, 01:22:42 am
Derrick Kellog @ LIU Good Team
Mike Dunleavy @ Tulane Good Team

Fordham has Hands Full


Title: Re: Fordham vs. LIU Brooklyn Pre-Game/Game Thread 11/13/17
Post by: PeterMartin08 on November 12, 2017, 08:35:42 am
Derrick Kellog @ LIU Good Team
Mike Dunleavy @ Tulane Good Team

Fordham has Hands Full

Two bad coaches = Okay


Title: Re: Fordham vs. LIU Brooklyn Pre-Game/Game Thread 11/13/17
Post by: John on November 12, 2017, 12:03:46 pm
Hopefully, Derrick Kellogg still coaches like Derrick Kellogg.


Title: Re: Fordham vs. LIU Brooklyn Pre-Game/Game Thread 11/13/17
Post by: kidfromny on November 12, 2017, 02:20:25 pm
You don't want to reward a guy for a subpar effort but I keep remembering Slanina being all-Universe the first 4 minutes against Dayton last year, and how he often seemed to contribute early in games. Raut didn't do anything to lose his starting spot, so maybe switch Slanina for Ohams Monday?

Slanina should be getting as much time as possible early in this season. Given what he missed last year, he needs experience. I think he will develop. But he needs to play, especially in the games we are supposed to win.


Title: Re: Fordham vs. LIU Brooklyn Pre-Game/Game Thread 11/13/17
Post by: drunkle on November 12, 2017, 03:19:57 pm
George Mason beating Louisville by 3 5 minutes into 2nd half.  Now 5.  Just another chance for a quality win later.  >:D


Title: Re: Fordham vs. LIU Brooklyn Pre-Game/Game Thread 11/13/17
Post by: Rich93 on November 13, 2017, 08:00:32 am
Pomeroy says 9 point win. 76-67.  No line in Vegas yet. 


Title: Re: Fordham vs. LIU Brooklyn Pre-Game/Game Thread 11/13/17
Post by: 85 on November 13, 2017, 08:02:57 am
Slanina should be getting as much time as possible early in this season. Given what he missed last year, he needs experience. I think he will develop. But he needs to play, especially in the games we are supposed to win.

He cant play as much as possible because he, along with Ohams, is a fouling machine.  2 fouls in 11 minutes.  Do the math.  Nearly 8 fouls per 40 minutes. Ohams had 5 fouls in 21 minutes. Even worse. You simply cant play these guys if they are going to average 8-10 fouls per 40 minutes, its ridiculous. And it was the same or worse last year.


Title: Re: Fordham vs. LIU Brooklyn Pre-Game/Game Thread 11/13/17
Post by: ram it 66 on November 13, 2017, 08:07:17 am
Pomeroy says 9 point win. 76-67.  No line in Vegas yet. 

And Sagarin has the Rams as 8 point favs.


Title: Re: Fordham vs. LIU Brooklyn Pre-Game/Game Thread 11/13/17
Post by: 85 on November 13, 2017, 08:30:32 am
Last year, Ohams and Slanina each averaged 6.7 fouls per 40 minute s played and Bunting 5.8 fouls per 40 minutes. Not sure if these metrics are commonplace for bigs, but they need to be offset by rebounding and scoring. They appear to be trending, albeit early, in the same direction this year. These are not Goran Skoko , rib fracture fouls, these are ticky tac fouls up high..... if you arent getting boards and scoring, I see no point to play these guys to keep picking up so many fouls and putting us in the hole every time they come into the game......so against a run and gun team like LIU......go small........or we will get killed at the line.....


Title: Re: Fordham vs. LIU Brooklyn Pre-Game/Game Thread 11/13/17
Post by: Rich93 on November 13, 2017, 08:44:36 am
I did nit see the fouls as ticky tack Friday. Poor positioning late rotation caused most of them.  Getting pushed around underneath hurt also.  They all played soft Friday night. Put it behind you come out aggressive tonight.   


Title: Re: Fordham vs. LIU Brooklyn Pre-Game/Game Thread 11/13/17
Post by: NYRam07 on November 13, 2017, 09:21:10 am
Excited to watch the game tonight. Already forgot that Friday happened!

I feel like JN's teams play up and down to their opponents level. That's not the best quality to have, but I'm also not going to freak out after a bad loss.


Title: Re: Fordham vs. LIU Brooklyn Pre-Game/Game Thread 11/13/17
Post by: 85 on November 13, 2017, 09:23:03 am
Last year we needed to gel. Hawkins took a little while to get going and we got positive production from bench when needed. I agree, it very well could all come together after an opening night flop. 

I think Evans has the big game here. 28 points for him.

Rams 77   El Eye You  72


Title: Re: Fordham vs. LIU Brooklyn Pre-Game/Game Thread 11/13/17
Post by: Rich93 on November 13, 2017, 09:25:05 am
One more thing: I think that lumping Slanina Ohams and Bunting together does not make sense.  They are all very different players.  Ohams should be perfect for this defense trapping and getting back.  You canít have a better physical fit.  


Title: Re: Fordham vs. LIU Brooklyn Pre-Game/Game Thread 11/13/17
Post by: PeterMartin08 on November 13, 2017, 09:28:08 am
Pomeroy says 9 point win. 76-67.  No line in Vegas yet. 

It would not surprise me if there is no Vegas line at all.


Title: Re: Fordham vs. LIU Brooklyn Pre-Game/Game Thread 11/13/17
Post by: 85 on November 13, 2017, 09:29:30 am
Lumping together because they are the only 3 bigs we have and all 3 would foul out well before the game is over if they were to play 35 minutes. So unless you want to play with no bigs at all, one has to be on the floor and all 3 play due to the ridiculous penchant for fouling. 

Ohams to me is the best of the bunch based upon what we saw from him defensively last year, but if he has 4 fouls after 20 minutes, what can you do?


Title: Re: Fordham vs. LIU Brooklyn Pre-Game/Game Thread 11/13/17
Post by: PeterMartin08 on November 13, 2017, 09:39:03 am
When you shoot as bad as bad as we did and get outrebounded as bad as we did Then to me that requires a major reversal. Sorry not emotional but realistic.

78 - Just to go back to your declaration that it'll take "major reversal to have a chance" - we are big favorite, evidently. Lets have some expectations here. Play a solid game, hit some shots and the result will show for itself. I think we'll win by 9, to be exact.


Title: Re: Fordham vs. LIU Brooklyn Pre-Game/Game Thread 11/13/17
Post by: PeterMartin08 on November 13, 2017, 10:05:34 am
It would not surprise me if there is no Vegas line at all.

To follow up on this, I can recall similar matchups being off the board entirely. On occasion, it may be offered as an "Extra Game" - one that is capped at a limit. In any case, I think we all agree this is a game we should win; and hopefully with a convincing DD statement. Go punk them.


Title: Re: Fordham vs. LIU Brooklyn Pre-Game/Game Thread 11/13/17
Post by: Rich93 on November 13, 2017, 10:13:33 am
Win this and Friday becomes a bad opening day that numerous other better than us teams had. 


Title: Re: Fordham vs. LIU Brooklyn Pre-Game/Game Thread 11/13/17
Post by: drunkle on November 13, 2017, 10:35:30 am
Win this and Friday becomes a bad opening day that numerous other better than us teams had. 

No doubt.  Indiana got totally destroyed in Archie Miller's debut against Indiana State.  Saint Joseph's, Wake Forest, West Virginia. Kentucky barely beat Vermont. 

BTW, T-Rank has it Fordham by 8 over LIU-Brooklyn.  71-63 (pretty similar to the Miami game).  I actually went by the sports book at the Venetian in Vegas on Friday, but didn't wager anything.


Title: Re: Fordham vs. LIU Brooklyn Pre-Game/Game Thread 11/13/17
Post by: Vooter on November 13, 2017, 10:46:23 am
LIU Brooklyn is low-level D1. Fordham may be low-level D1, I don't think so. To say it'll take a "major reversal to have a chance" is not accurate. Emotional, but not accurate.

Well, it may only be based on one game, but after this weekend's games, Fordham's BPI is 180, Miami's is 282, and LIU's is 183. If we can lose to a 282, it stands to reason that we can lose to a 183. Just sayin'...go Rams!


Title: Re: Fordham vs. LIU Brooklyn Pre-Game/Game Thread 11/13/17
Post by: kidfromny on November 13, 2017, 11:22:06 am
He cant play as much as possible because he, along with Ohams, is a fouling machine.  2 fouls in 11 minutes.  Do the math.  Nearly 8 fouls per 40 minutes. Ohams had 5 fouls in 21 minutes. Even worse. You simply cant play these guys if they are going to average 8-10 fouls per 40 minutes, its ridiculous. And it was the same or worse last year.

Thats on the staff to fix. Whichever coach is in charge of the bigs, or defense, drill it into their damn heads. It's going to cost us if not fixed.


Title: Re: Fordham vs. LIU Brooklyn Pre-Game/Game Thread 11/13/17
Post by: PeterMartin08 on November 13, 2017, 11:27:19 am
Win this and Friday becomes a bad opening day that numerous other better than us teams had. 

Exactly right. I will say, if any program needed a W in the worst way to open the year - it was us. Had we escaped with a 4-point win, it would be laugh and jabs that we got way with one. To lose it the way we did, you couldn't have scripted it worst.

Must blitz LIU and set ourselves up to flip the script immediately. I'm not having a 8-20 year. Not doing it.


Title: Re: Fordham vs. LIU Brooklyn Pre-Game/Game Thread 11/13/17
Post by: Rich93 on November 13, 2017, 11:30:09 am
Agreed we donít have the winning tradition that makes it easier to brush off a loss like Friday.  So now win tonight and reset heading into Jamaica.


Title: Re: Fordham vs. LIU Brooklyn Pre-Game/Game Thread 11/13/17
Post by: Vinseiro2 on November 13, 2017, 11:46:52 am
Do we have to break 70 to win tonight's game? 75?


Title: Re: Fordham vs. LIU Brooklyn Pre-Game/Game Thread 11/13/17
Post by: ace93 on November 13, 2017, 11:51:51 am
Exactly right. I will say, if any program needed a W in the worst way to open the year - it was us. Had we escaped with a 4-point win, it would be laugh and jabs that we got way with one. To lose it the way we did, you couldn't have scripted it worst.

Must blitz LIU and set ourselves up to flip the script immediately. I'm not having a 8-20 year. Not doing it.

I disagree to an extent. I feel that if we had escaped with a close win, that it would have given the team (maybe not all of them) a false sense of everything being fine.


Title: Re: Fordham vs. LIU Brooklyn Pre-Game/Game Thread 11/13/17
Post by: greenwood on November 13, 2017, 12:06:00 pm
Do we have to break 70 to win tonight's game? 75?

Possibly, but I'm looking at possessions and pace, we had 67 possessions in our game and LIU had 85, if this game has closer to 85 we are in trouble.


Title: Re: Fordham vs. LIU Brooklyn Pre-Game/Game Thread 11/13/17
Post by: PeterMartin08 on November 13, 2017, 12:22:13 pm
Do we have to break 70 to win tonight's game? 75?

77-68 with 18 coming from Evans.


Title: Re: Fordham vs. LIU Brooklyn Pre-Game/Game Thread 11/13/17
Post by: Vinseiro2 on November 13, 2017, 12:34:29 pm
77-68 with 18 coming from Evans.

   Did we ever score 77 last season?  That's a tall order for Evans.  Where are the other 59 points coming from?

   I hope we do a better job of attacking the rim and not taking early or bad 3s.


Title: Re: Fordham vs. LIU Brooklyn Pre-Game/Game Thread 11/13/17
Post by: PeterMartin08 on November 13, 2017, 12:51:52 pm
   Did we ever score 77 last season?  That's a tall order for Evans.  Where are the other 59 points coming from?

   I hope we do a better job of attacking the rim and not taking early or bad 3s.

Well yes, we scored 101, 85, 73, 70, 83, 72, 86 (2ot), 71, etc.

If the pace is what I anticipate, plenty of 2nd half scoring. Both teams should push, and neither rebound it. Plenty of broken play points, 77-68 may actually be understating it.


Title: Re: Fordham vs. LIU Brooklyn Pre-Game/Game Thread 11/13/17
Post by: vinnys on November 13, 2017, 01:58:23 pm
77-68 with 18 coming from Evans.

Compughterratings has it at 75 - 67    very close to yours


Title: Re: Fordham vs. LIU Brooklyn Pre-Game/Game Thread 11/13/17
Post by: ramwatcher on November 13, 2017, 02:16:07 pm
I think LIU is an NEC team. If so, this game will not be lined


Title: Re: Fordham vs. LIU Brooklyn Pre-Game/Game Thread 11/13/17
Post by: pjd on November 13, 2017, 02:39:26 pm
want to see more from Crowd; D-Fence Chant!
Prokop - more minutes
JN said it well - better offensive performance from Everybody

No 2-10 From Evans Please;  Let's get it Going Fordham!


Title: Re: Fordham vs. LIU Brooklyn Pre-Game/Game Thread 11/13/17
Post by: Richie68 on November 13, 2017, 04:30:59 pm
Basically, if we hit our shots at a decent percentage and play good defense, I think we should win, even if we get outrebounded.  But these guys have to play with intensity for 40 minutes, not like the last game where they tried to mail it in in the last 5 minutes and lost.


Title: Re: Fordham vs. LIU Brooklyn Pre-Game/Game Thread 11/13/17
Post by: KPW on November 13, 2017, 04:32:46 pm
I don't believe JC really wants to be here. Needs to play like the pro he will be.


Title: Re: Fordham vs. LIU Brooklyn Pre-Game/Game Thread 11/13/17
Post by: Battering Ram on November 13, 2017, 04:46:20 pm
No doubt.  Indiana got totally destroyed in Archie Miller's debut against Indiana State.  Saint Joseph's, Wake Forest, West Virginia. Kentucky barely beat Vermont. 


add Richmond who got obliterated today by Jacksonville St, 94-61.


Title: Re: Fordham vs. LIU Brooklyn Pre-Game/Game Thread 11/13/17
Post by: drunkle on November 13, 2017, 05:17:07 pm
add Richmond who got obliterated today by Jacksonville St, 94-61.

I guess they miss Cline.  They are now 0-2.  Lost to Delaware, which was also-ran in CAA last year (their 2nd year coach is Martin Inglesby, former Notre Dame player and assistant under Brey).  Jacksonville State went to NCAAs last year from OVC in his first year there after 5 years at Western Kentucky (where he also went to 2 NCAAs).  The Delaware loss stings.  They finished Kenpom 290 last year, worse than Miami of O.

Gotta seize this year.  The league is looking ripe for the taking.  Let's start the party tonight.


Title: Re: Fordham vs. LIU Brooklyn Pre-Game/Game Thread 11/13/17
Post by: SkipPass71 on November 13, 2017, 05:39:42 pm
Some have expressed that LIU will be held under 70 points.  They did score 96 in the road loss to Tulane, before a little more that 1,000 "fans."  We will need a bigger, supportive crowd.  Missing in our first game was the kind of floor-slapping, get after it defense that AA and Zarc provided last year to help wear down opposing point guards.  Who can/will step up and provide this tonight.  Tavares looks smooth, strong and capable of doing some real offensive damage.  Let's see.  Go Rams!


Title: Re: Fordham vs. LIU Brooklyn Pre-Game/Game Thread 11/13/17
Post by: Jaden Daly on November 13, 2017, 06:42:42 pm
Live from the RHG, it's my 2017-18 Fordham debut.

For those of you that are back for more, welcome back...for those new to the party, I can't make any guarantees.

Anybody have any insights from the Miami U game that I should know about?


Title: Re: Fordham vs. LIU Brooklyn Pre-Game/Game Thread 11/13/17
Post by: Jaden Daly on November 13, 2017, 06:51:38 pm
JC, Evans, Tavares, Raut and Slanina get the start for the Rams tonight. LIU counters with Agosto, Batts, Hernandez, Clark and Coleman.


Title: Re: Fordham vs. LIU Brooklyn Pre-Game/Game Thread 11/13/17
Post by: Kaup on November 13, 2017, 07:10:25 pm
Anyone else having problems watching online?


Title: Re: Fordham vs. LIU Brooklyn Pre-Game/Game Thread 11/13/17
Post by: shortshot on November 13, 2017, 07:13:08 pm
Anyone else having problems watching online?
Video keeps freezing and have to keep refreshing.


Title: Re: Fordham vs. LIU Brooklyn Pre-Game/Game Thread 11/13/17
Post by: alanccrx on November 13, 2017, 07:16:42 pm
Typical Fordham BB video.... all messed up...


Title: Re: Fordham vs. LIU Brooklyn Pre-Game/Game Thread 11/13/17
Post by: Belmont Juice on November 13, 2017, 07:18:49 pm
Gave up on the crappy video and went to the radio feed. Our big is playing in closer and having a big early impact. JC looking good. Also, lovin that 2-3 zone. WT is money.

Keep it up!


Title: Re: Fordham vs. LIU Brooklyn Pre-Game/Game Thread 11/13/17
Post by: Kaup on November 13, 2017, 07:20:22 pm
Video keeps freezing and have to keep refreshing.
Same here.  I don't even know why I bother sometimes.


Title: Re: Fordham vs. LIU Brooklyn Pre-Game/Game Thread 11/13/17
Post by: 85 on November 13, 2017, 07:21:52 pm
its phuggin garbage,. go play i have things to do.


Title: Re: Fordham vs. LIU Brooklyn Pre-Game/Game Thread 11/13/17
Post by: ram it 66 on November 13, 2017, 07:22:14 pm
Anyone else having problems watching online?

Always....


Title: Re: Fordham vs. LIU Brooklyn Pre-Game/Game Thread 11/13/17
Post by: NYRam07 on November 13, 2017, 07:24:09 pm
Came here to see if it was my internet. I should've known it wasn't.


Title: Re: Fordham vs. LIU Brooklyn Pre-Game/Game Thread 11/13/17
Post by: VTRAM on November 13, 2017, 07:27:26 pm
Looks like it is back


Title: Re: Fordham vs. LIU Brooklyn Pre-Game/Game Thread 11/13/17
Post by: Kaup on November 13, 2017, 07:31:24 pm
Looks like it is back
Yes - back in business.


Title: Re: Fordham vs. LIU Brooklyn Pre-Game/Game Thread 11/13/17
Post by: southcarolinaram on November 13, 2017, 07:45:22 pm
With Hicks and Evans in the game, why does Chartouny get the ball in order to pass it? Some bad turnovers already.


Title: Re: Fordham vs. LIU Brooklyn Pre-Game/Game Thread 11/13/17
Post by: Belmont Juice on November 13, 2017, 07:48:19 pm
Back to freeze city, meaning back to radio!

LIU is creeping back. Lets get that double figure breathing space back.

Our big guy is great tonight!


Title: Re: Fordham vs. LIU Brooklyn Pre-Game/Game Thread 11/13/17
Post by: Belmont Juice on November 13, 2017, 07:49:53 pm
Raut! Wow!


Title: Re: Fordham vs. LIU Brooklyn Pre-Game/Game Thread 11/13/17
Post by: VTRAM on November 13, 2017, 07:56:41 pm
Nice half. Now we just need to get JC going. HE is a pressing a bit.

I'll take 42 at the half but I was hoping for more post moves ;D


Title: Re: Fordham vs. LIU Brooklyn Pre-Game/Game Thread 11/13/17
Post by: ace93 on November 13, 2017, 08:00:20 pm
Chartouny biggest disappointment so far. Even more disappointing than the crappy feed.


Title: Re: Fordham vs. LIU Brooklyn Pre-Game/Game Thread 11/13/17
Post by: KPW on November 13, 2017, 08:01:29 pm
We are a pretty good team when the threes fall! 7-11 , 63.6%


Title: Re: Fordham vs. LIU Brooklyn Pre-Game/Game Thread 11/13/17
Post by: ram64 on November 13, 2017, 08:11:52 pm
Raut 5 for 5 - 15 pts.


Title: Re: Fordham vs. LIU Brooklyn Pre-Game/Game Thread 11/13/17
Post by: VTRAM on November 13, 2017, 08:19:35 pm
We are a pretty good team when the threes fall! 7-11 , 63.6%

As I mentioned after the last game, don;t expect to see 12% again in the next couple of years.


Title: Re: Fordham vs. LIU Brooklyn Pre-Game/Game Thread 11/13/17
Post by: Belmont Juice on November 13, 2017, 08:20:44 pm
Chartouny biggest disappointment so far. Even more disappointing than the crappy feed.

He started okay and then totally disappeared. The bigs have taken this one over, so JC's (2nd) bad game is shielded somewhat. PS is everywhere tonight. And Raut? Pullin that trigger!


Title: Re: Fordham vs. LIU Brooklyn Pre-Game/Game Thread 11/13/17
Post by: floridaram94 on November 13, 2017, 08:29:40 pm
Glad to see it wasnít my Wi-Fi. Horrible feed. Canít tell whatís going on.


Title: Re: Fordham vs. LIU Brooklyn Pre-Game/Game Thread 11/13/17
Post by: Belmont Juice on November 13, 2017, 08:30:36 pm
We've gone cold - good thing we're playing strong D to even it out somewhat.



Title: Re: Fordham vs. LIU Brooklyn Pre-Game/Game Thread 11/13/17
Post by: Belmont Juice on November 13, 2017, 08:32:54 pm
6 for 6?!!! Seriously? A freshman no less. Awesome!


Title: Re: Fordham vs. LIU Brooklyn Pre-Game/Game Thread 11/13/17
Post by: Belmont Juice on November 13, 2017, 08:36:41 pm
Make that 7 for 7, 21 points.

Has this ever happened before bros? Man!


Title: Re: Fordham vs. LIU Brooklyn Pre-Game/Game Thread 11/13/17
Post by: KPW on November 13, 2017, 08:36:53 pm
En Fuego ! 7-7
What is our team record for made 3s?


Title: Re: Fordham vs. LIU Brooklyn Pre-Game/Game Thread 11/13/17
Post by: DCRam on November 13, 2017, 08:37:35 pm
$&#@*

The stream is going at warp speed.   >:(


Title: Re: Fordham vs. LIU Brooklyn Pre-Game/Game Thread 11/13/17
Post by: w89 on November 13, 2017, 08:38:26 pm
Let's name it the Ivan Raut Family Basketball Court :D


Title: Re: Fordham vs. LIU Brooklyn Pre-Game/Game Thread 11/13/17
Post by: FU85 on November 13, 2017, 09:00:58 pm
Good win, we needed it. Have a couple of good practices and go hard vs FSU.


Title: Re: Fordham vs. LIU Brooklyn Pre-Game/Game Thread 11/13/17
Post by: KPW on November 13, 2017, 09:01:56 pm
Way to close out strong over the final 3 minutes.


Title: Re: Fordham vs. LIU Brooklyn Pre-Game/Game Thread 11/13/17
Post by: Vooter on November 13, 2017, 09:03:27 pm
Happy for the win, and obviously for the Slanina/Raut combo performance (although how did Slanina end up fouling out after only having a single PF into the second half?) Will be interested to see how these two fare against the 'Noles...go Rams!


Title: Re: Fordham vs. LIU Brooklyn Pre-Game/Game Thread 11/13/17
Post by: KPW on November 13, 2017, 09:05:43 pm
Only -4 on the glass tonight; actually lost the turnover battle 13-8 (tidy game by both squads there).
Great shooting night by the Rams - not to be denied this evening!


Title: Re: Fordham vs. LIU Brooklyn Pre-Game/Game Thread 11/13/17
Post by: fholbr on November 13, 2017, 09:06:29 pm
JN did a great job changing up the D. Holding LIU under 70 is impressive.


Title: Re: Fordham vs. LIU Brooklyn Pre-Game/Game Thread 11/13/17
Post by: Rambow on November 13, 2017, 09:07:36 pm
So what's different tonight?  Almost no Ohams, very little Havsa.  Lots of Slanina.  Less Tavares.  More rebounding.  But still less pressure defense than in the past.  And actually I think LIU/Brooklyn might be better than Miami.  Also Pekarek made an appearance and did not impress.  And Raut was great.  We'll see.


Title: Re: Fordham vs. LIU Brooklyn Pre-Game/Game Thread 11/13/17
Post by: VTRAM on November 13, 2017, 09:19:54 pm
Good win for the team to get back on track. The most interesting thing to me was the change in defense. We went much more conservative and only forced 13 TO's. We actually had the same amount of shots as LIU which is not something you typically see from a JN team. It will be interesting to see if that holds or if that was a specific way to keep LIU out of the lane.

Obviously Raut is the story. FSU will be all over him so other guys will need to step up. JC played better in the 2nd half and we will need him sharp on Friday.  The best thing now is that we have depth and can ride the hot hand. Chuba has struggled but we now have options. Same with Havsa. I think we will see different guys step up each night which is kind of nice.


Title: Re: Fordham vs. LIU Brooklyn Pre-Game/Game Thread 11/13/17
Post by: fholbr on November 13, 2017, 09:30:22 pm
I noticed in the Miami game that Raut hit a couple of open shots in the first half and then Miami put a player on him for most of the game and was a non-factor the rest of the game. Not sure if LIU D was more lax or FU moved the ball better to create openings for Raut. 


Title: Re: Fordham vs. LIU Brooklyn Pre-Game/Game Thread 11/13/17
Post by: ace93 on November 13, 2017, 09:36:38 pm
The good news with the feed being so bad is that perhaps FSU won’t have good tape on Raut.  :P


Title: Re: Fordham vs. LIU Brooklyn Pre-Game/Game Thread 11/13/17
Post by: PeterMartin08 on November 13, 2017, 09:46:23 pm
Not rocket science, but the score fell right where we discussed.


Title: Re: Fordham vs. LIU Brooklyn Pre-Game/Game Thread 11/13/17
Post by: Jaden Daly on November 13, 2017, 10:10:51 pm
It's been a while since we started the year 1-for-1 in the happy recap department, but here goes. Went for an actual game recap tonight rather than the standard quotes and nuggets. Enjoy!

http://dalydoseofhoops.blogspot.com/2017/11/rauts-21-slaninas-double-double-guide.html


Title: Re: Fordham vs. LIU Brooklyn Pre-Game/Game Thread 11/13/17
Post by: Rich93 on November 13, 2017, 10:30:36 pm
We will be a better team when Chartouny and Evans get going.  Nice spot Minutes by Bunting. Looked like Ohams tweeked his back but regardless he was ineffective when playing.  Good to see Pekarek back nice player to have off the bench.  Havsa struggled again.  Under rated player of the night: Hicks.  I like his game and can see him making big plays down the stretch of some games. 


Title: Re: Fordham vs. LIU Brooklyn Pre-Game/Game Thread 11/13/17
Post by: vinnys on November 13, 2017, 11:01:02 pm
much needed win    didn't know much about Raut going into the season so did not expect much but was obviously impressive tonight     very very meager crowd

lets get a win in Jamaica


Title: Re: Fordham vs. LIU Brooklyn Pre-Game/Game Thread 11/13/17
Post by: Richie68 on November 14, 2017, 12:11:59 am
Back from the game and the story of this game was that Slanina was a BEAST and Raut was unconscious shooting the 3 ball.

Slanina scored 19 points with 11 rebounds, 3 blocked shots and 2 steals and went to the line hitting 6 out of 10.  Raut led the team in scoring with 7 threes and 21 points, adding 4 rebounds. 

If these two guys who before the season started were probably not considered to be key factors play like this, and Evans and Chartouny get their game together which so far has not been all that good, then we should have a pretty good team going forward.  Tavares also had a pretty good game with 13 points and 7 rebounds and he can definitely break down defenses and drive for the basket.  Hicks doesn't look to shoot but he also looks capable of good things in the future.

To be fair, Chartouny who missed about 5 layups and had 3 turnovers, still scored 15 points with 6 rebounds and 4 steals, so even when he isn't looking all that good, he still gets things done.

As mentioned, turnout was pathetic and the students barely showed up.  On to Jamaica.  My optimism, for better or worse, has returned.


Title: Re: Fordham vs. LIU Brooklyn Pre-Game/Game Thread 11/13/17
Post by: PeterMartin08 on November 14, 2017, 01:59:43 am
Slanina scored 19 points with 11 rebounds, 3 blocked shots and 2 steals and went to the line hitting 6 out of 10.  Raut led the team in scoring with 7 threes and 21 points, adding 4 rebounds. 

Following the Lehigh FB game, these are the two names I focused on in practice.

I had given Slanina a rave review from his display of knockdown 20-footers. Meanwhile Raut looked lost and couldnít put one down. Good to see the latter is in fact capable of everything we thought he may be; my expectations were not high. This changes the equation.


Title: Re: Fordham vs. LIU Brooklyn Pre-Game/Game Thread 11/13/17
Post by: Jaden Daly on November 14, 2017, 02:01:42 am
Photo gallery:

http://dalydoseofhoops.blogspot.com/2017/11/fordham-vs-liu-photo-gallery.html


Title: Re: Fordham vs. LIU Brooklyn Pre-Game/Game Thread 11/13/17
Post by: John on November 14, 2017, 03:11:41 am
Nice win. Slanina showed big. Raut a revelation. Many other good supporting performances. Let's work on that killer instinct, guys. Well done!


Title: Re: Fordham vs. LIU Brooklyn Pre-Game/Game Thread 11/13/17
Post by: 85 on November 14, 2017, 07:26:11 am
Solid win for the guys, congrats.  Still had 9 fouls for the 40 minutes on the bigs, but obviously offset nicely with the 3's, boards and  blocks.  Well done.


Title: Re: Fordham vs. LIU Brooklyn Pre-Game/Game Thread 11/13/17
Post by: Vooter on November 14, 2017, 08:33:00 am
As mentioned, turnout was pathetic and the students barely showed up.

That's what happens when you leave a car sitting out in a field in the rain for twenty-five years...


Title: Re: Fordham vs. LIU Brooklyn Pre-Game/Game Thread 11/13/17
Post by: VTRAM on November 14, 2017, 08:46:48 am
That's what happens when you leave a car sitting out in a field in the rain for twenty-five years...

Yep. Just keeping winning and the gym will fill up.


Title: Re: Fordham vs. LIU Brooklyn Pre-Game/Game Thread 11/13/17
Post by: kidfromny on November 14, 2017, 08:47:23 am

As mentioned, turnout was pathetic and the students barely showed up.  On to Jamaica.  My optimism, for better or worse, has returned.

Losing to a bad team in a bad game for your first game isn't going to draw any interest among students for the following LIU game. No way getting around that.

Huge game from Slanina. Great to see. Let's keep it going now.


Title: Re: Fordham vs. LIU Brooklyn Pre-Game/Game Thread 11/13/17
Post by: Rich93 on November 14, 2017, 09:16:55 am
One other take away: Slanina showed some nice post moves and finished 2-3 of them.  Should get some touches there all year.  We donít need to dump it in 10 times a game but 3-5 would work.


Title: Re: Fordham vs. LIU Brooklyn Pre-Game/Game Thread 11/13/17
Post by: Vinseiro2 on November 14, 2017, 10:01:59 am
One other take away: Slanina showed some nice post moves and finished 2-3 of them.  Should get some touches there all year.  We donít need to dump it in 10 times a game but 3-5 would work.

   +1.  Forcing the opponent's coaches and players to figure out how to defend the post is huge.  If you get some off-the-ball action, you're golden.  The more looks you can throw out at our level, the better.  I think Slanina can be a good passer from the post, too.

   Nice job on adjusting our defense - exactly what was called for in this game.


Title: Re: Fordham vs. LIU Brooklyn Pre-Game/Game Thread 11/13/17
Post by: KPW on November 14, 2017, 10:56:30 am
Losing to a bad team in a bad game for your first game isn't going to draw any interest among students for the following LIU game. No way getting around that.
Agree. I would argue further that 90% of the students didn't know Miami was a "bad" team we were probably supposed to beat.
The students are casual fans at best, mainly disinterested in athletics. They will come out for a winner for some entertainment if it suits their schedule.


Title: Re: Fordham vs. LIU Brooklyn Pre-Game/Game Thread 11/13/17
Post by: LXRF on November 14, 2017, 12:11:50 pm
The students have come out for free caps and pizza, and then leave soon after.  Even the University choir students who sing the National Athemn dash for the exits before the game starts along with their faculty director who, I'm told, gets paid to sing the NA. It is what it is.  If the team wins consistently some students might show up along with others who like to identify with winners.   


Title: Re: Fordham vs. LIU Brooklyn Pre-Game/Game Thread 11/13/17
Post by: kidfromny on November 14, 2017, 12:34:29 pm
The students have come out for free caps and pizza, and then leave soon after.  Even the University choir students who sing the National Athemn dash for the exits before the game starts along with their faculty director who, I'm told, gets paid to sing the NA. It is what it is.  If the team wins consistently some students might show up along with others who like to identify with winners.   

National exposure gets students there. May take a few years. Or some big time wins at least. It is what it is. We as basketball fans and alums need to do our part.


Title: Re: Fordham vs. LIU Brooklyn Pre-Game/Game Thread 11/13/17
Post by: VTRAM on November 14, 2017, 03:48:14 pm
National exposure gets students there. May take a few years. Or some big time wins at least. It is what it is. We as basketball fans and alums need to do our part.

Exactly right. Forget about the crowd for now. Just focus on the basketball, improving, and winning. The rest will come.


Title: Re: Fordham vs. LIU Brooklyn Pre-Game/Game Thread 11/13/17
Post by: Bay Ridge on November 14, 2017, 07:00:52 pm
The atmosphere was deplorable. Couldn't have been more than 300 people in the gym including the hot dog vendors and the players. The game wasn't clinched until about four minutes to go against a low level NEC team with a new coach. Hoping for the best but this could be a long year.


Title: Re: Fordham vs. LIU Brooklyn Pre-Game/Game Thread 11/13/17
Post by: 85 on November 14, 2017, 07:02:39 pm
the team lays an egg in opener, they didnt deserve fans, you earn fans. keep the w's coming,they will show up a little more.


Title: Re: Fordham vs. LIU Brooklyn Pre-Game/Game Thread 11/13/17
Post by: Belmont Juice on November 14, 2017, 09:28:17 pm
You don't bail on your (fellow student's) team after a one point loss. If you're worried about losing texting time, you can do that in the stands while at least pretending to be interested in what's happening down on the floor.

It's better than nothing bros, which is mostly what I saw in the stands when the lame video feed last night decided to work for a moment or two, before freezing (yet) again.


Title: Re: Fordham vs. LIU Brooklyn Pre-Game/Game Thread 11/13/17
Post by: SkipPass71 on November 14, 2017, 10:35:42 pm
Much better!  I like the winning formula-sneak Steph Curry into Rauts uni and, well...me in Hernandez's.  I saw coach Kellogg,in an appropriate gesture for a great Jesuit University, look heavenward after Raut's sixth straight splash from deep.  He seemed to be saying where can I get one of those.  Kudos to those responsible for finding us yet another older frosh with international experience.  We have gone all in with this international theme-see the various flags on display in the RHG for each of the nationalities we have-heck, Joey Chartz is waving a Canadian one in the pre-game video montage!  Good to see Slanina looking so facile posting up as well as from outside.

As has been said, really small crowd.  Win, play interesting brand of ball and they will come.  Go Rams.


Title: Re: Fordham vs. LIU Brooklyn Pre-Game/Game Thread 11/13/17
Post by: PeterMartin08 on November 14, 2017, 11:13:41 pm
Much better!  I like the winning formula-sneak Steph Curry into Rauts uni and, well...me in Hernandez's.  I saw coach Kellogg,in an appropriate gesture for a great Jesuit University, look heavenward after Raut's sixth straight splash from deep.  He seemed to be saying where can I get one of those.  Kudos to those responsible for finding us yet another older frosh with international experience.  We have gone all in with this international theme-see the various flags on display in the RHG for each of the nationalities we have-heck, Joey Chartz is waving a Canadian one in the pre-game video montage!  Good to see Slanina looking so facile posting up as well as from outside.

Reading your post made me remarkably uncomfortable.