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1  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Recruiting Update on: July 27, 2017, 12:31:51 pm
Staff is in vegas according to the MBB Twitter feed. Big AAU events out there right now.
2  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Ivan Raut signs with Fordham on: July 14, 2017, 09:23:07 am
The further removed we are from the season, the more we tend to forget how challenged the team was of offense. As thankful as I am for the contributions that AA, CS, and Hawk made to the program, they were centerpieces in a team that ranked 307th in country on offense. We were painful to watch. On offense I can't imagine we won't be better. I actually think we will be considerably better despite the loss of the 3 pieces because we will take better care of the ball and shoot better.

On defense, the loss of CS is a positive but AA and Hawk will need to be replaced. I wouldn't be surprised if we take a small step back on that side of the court but the improvement in offense should more than make up for that.
3  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: DePaul transfer Erten Gazi has committed to Fordham, per a source. on: June 27, 2017, 11:40:13 am
How about we watch him play then decide if he is a good get. Novel idea.

4  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Starting Line Up '17-18' on: June 06, 2017, 11:46:30 am
I find it interesting that Havsa isn't getting more love in this thread. By the end of last year he was playing arguably as well as any of our guards. JN couldn't keep him off the floor and he should only be stronger and more comfortable. Look at his games working backwards from the end of the year:

Mason (A-10's) - 31 Min, 7 pts, 2 A, 4 stls,1 TO
@ Lasalle - 36 Min, 5 Pts, 6 A, 2 Stls, 1 TO
GW - 25 Min, 12 pts, 0 A, 1 TO

To me the most important thing here was that he only had 3 TO's in 3 games where he saw major mins. I think JC is better and more comfortable not being the primary ball handler so I think he and Havsa could work well together. Again I will wait and see what we get but for now I would say

Starters:
Havsa
JC
Pekarek
Ohams
Slanina

Bench
Hicks, Evans, Taveres, Bunting, Zarkovic, New Guy #1, New Guy #2

Obviously that lineups depends on Pekarek returning to form after last year. Would not at all be surprised to see another guard there instead.
5  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: All time best Fordham Starting five on: May 25, 2017, 03:44:27 pm
Starting in 2000. I'm going small

C -Dunston
PF - Mike Haynes
SF - Paschall
SG - Bev
PG - Smush

I would worry about the defense. But probably the most talent on the floor. Gaston could replace Haynes.
6  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Players I think we should look into. The Recruiting Speculation Game on: May 25, 2017, 03:35:33 pm
I think grad transfer Bo Zeigler from USF could help us. 6-6 forward who can really run and jump. Unreal dunks. Can run, rebound, block shots and defend. Not a perimeter shooter  and is a bad free throw shooter.

2016-17   USF   20.5   2.1-3.9   .545   0.0-0.1   .000   0.4-1.1   .387   3.5   1.4   0.7   0.8   2.7   1.6   4.7
2015-16   USF   22.2   1.7-3.0   .557   0.0-0.3   .100   0.5-1.2   .459   2.8   1.4   0.9   0.7   2.3   1.6   3.9
2014-15   USF   24.3   2.7-5.3   .506   0.0-0.1   .000   1.0-2.5   .410   4.5   0.5   1.1   0.4   3.0   1.5   6.4

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/67625/bo-zeigler

Hawkins and zeigler didnt play together, missing by a year, but they are also both from Michigan so they have probably met.

Hard time believing we would want a 6-6 guy who can't shoot.
7  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Recruiting Update on: May 19, 2017, 03:33:58 pm
So with JC returning, we have two scholarships available with ten active players on next season's roster. I still think we sign at least one more guy.     

Jake Fay is a graduate transfer at Hartford. I think we should sign him just so we can get 85's reaction posts.
8  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Fordham’s Joseph Chartouny to Declare for NBA Draft on: May 19, 2017, 03:23:45 pm
Agree. All of a sudden we are kind of strong at the guard position going into next season now.

IMO we will be much better at guard and that is without AA. If we get a wing and a big that would be ideal. would love to see one grad transfer.
9  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Disappointed ! on: May 19, 2017, 03:14:01 pm
   2 of the 4 mentioned didn't pan out and I'm just not sold on these 2.  We'll see.

I think you will change your tune by the time these guys are done but we'll see.
10  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Disappointed ! on: May 19, 2017, 11:56:14 am
I am withholding judgment until we know that recruiting for next season has finished

The recruiting game has changed, international players, the rise of transfers, the focus on ,ore national instead of local recruiting, completely different ballgame from even five years ago and every coach has to adjust

I do think that JN talking about his recruiting philosophy would help us understand better what he hopes to accomplish and I wouldn't mind a leak or two beyond a Twitter post that " Good news is coming". Could be something as simple as a background conversation that indicates we are recruiting Euro post players or something similar, that would help some fans step back from the ledge

Is part of the staff's job to make sure we aren't on a ledge? I thought it was to win games? Your response is very reasoned so not an attack on you but more about this thread. This has to be one of the dumbest threads in the board's history and that is saying a lot. The fact posters think the staff owes them anything in terms of information is pretty funny. That staff owes us a winning team and so far they have delivered two of our most successful A-10  seasons. The paranoia around here is real. It is well earned by years and years of incompetence but it is real.
11  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Disappointed ! on: May 19, 2017, 11:47:48 am
While I suspect one or more foreign players might show up, it's pretty disappointing that a school offering a 4-year ride valued at $67K per year, with a gorgeous campus in the most exiting city on the continent, cannot persuade a single American HS or prep hoopster to accept a scholarship offer. That makes exactly 1 such player in 2 years to sign on.

Perhaps it was bad luck of the draw with the kids we offered this year, maybe something else. The one that stung me was losing Myles Johnson to Rutgers, of all places. He had the academic tools clearly was willing to relocate to the East coast, and signs with a school that's been out of the Dance for longer than we have, and competing in a conference they have little chance of prospering in. We've got to do something to rebrand this program (winning would be nice).

I'm not totally dejected, though. I think JN has a certain "type" of player he wants, and pretty challenging performance expectations. [Like Tom Penders, who was accused of being a "lazy" recruiter -- a charge that could not be leveled at JN & Co.  But in fact, Penders was just looking for a certain type of player, and he put some tough SOBs on the court during his time here. I'd like to think JN's the same way.

Have you ever considered that he may not prefer to recruit HS seniors. Drunkle has mentioned it many times and he is right, the tourney teams at EKU were built on Jucos. Who says you need to recruit frosh? I want the best players no matter where they are from.
12  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Disappointed ! on: May 19, 2017, 10:49:19 am
Well, obviously not this year but Ohams is local, Slanina is foreign but played for ASA, which is based in NYC.  Tavares is from Providence but played for Monroe, also local.  So maybe not the cream off the top of the PSAL but they were all playing basketball in NYC.

It is disappointing we haven't had more signees to announce yet, but we didn't know about Havsa until August last year, so there may be more in the works.  Right now we have 10 guys on scholarship active for next season, assuming the eligible guys all come back.  Miami played last year with 9.  Not comparing Fordham to them but it happens sometimes you don't use them all up, departures, etc.  And Miami made the tournament.

I like the 2 guys we signed, even though Portley sits out.  We do need more.  

I know you aren't saying this but focusing our recruiting on NYC in today's day and age makes zero sense. These kids travel all over the country in AAU and often want out of their city. Who cares where the players come from as long as they win?
13  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Disappointed ! on: May 19, 2017, 10:29:12 am
I was one of the first to call attention to the lack of "coaching" by Pecora.  However, he was able to get "local" players.  Local in this sense means NY and NJ.  Recall the following:
                                       Ryan Rhooms
                                       Chris Gaston
                                       Brandon Frazier
                                       Mandell Thomas
                                       A. Anderson
                                       Jon Severe
                                       B. Smith
                                       Eric Pascall
Some of these individuals worked out fine and others, not so much.  The point being that there was some local recruiting. Now-???

How many wins did these guys have before JN arrived? Asking for a friend.
14  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Recruiting Update on: May 12, 2017, 04:01:15 pm
The grad transfer from Pitt in no way fits what JN wants to do on either end of the court. He wants to be fast and athletic not big and slow.
15  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Tre Evans Commits to Fordham on: May 09, 2017, 02:20:53 pm
on point, drunkle and VT. That 307th figure is excruciatingly revealing.

In regards to having two new guard options, Hicks' attractive offensive "measurements" show 48/40/83 - nearly identical to Tre (47/41/84). Very strong, regardless of competition.

Some time ago, I pointed out Hicks' offensive ascension as the second half of his season continued. I don't have the exact figures in front of me but his 2nd half progression was impressive. One game he scored 41 on 16/24 from the field; tallied 20+ on 9 occasions.

Note: Evans TO rate is better than Hicks. That may be related to the team, and it may also be style/decision making.

I expect Hicks to be good. And I think Evans will be better than Hicks.



Hot take alert...

I think we will be better on offense next year with the newcomers then if everyone stayed. Kind of ridiculous to say that at this point with really only Hicks and Evans in the mix but that is my gut.
16  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Tre Evans Commits to Fordham on: May 09, 2017, 12:45:26 pm
We were not terrible last year but we sure were not elite, this could be exciting to watch next year


No our offense was terrible last year. 307th out of 351 teams to be exact. It was painful to watch. I for one will be very happy to see new blood on the court on that side of the ball. I don;t think I could take another year of constantly struggling to both get and make shots.

Fire away Tre. We need Shot makers.
17  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: A10 Incoming/Outgoing List 2017-18 on: April 26, 2017, 09:13:04 am
yes they contributed to games we won but they did not win them by themselves. We have lost 3 starters from the team and no replacements yet. Sure lets wait till the recruiting end sto weigh in but you can talk all you want about who is still around and who helped win games but unless they replace the 3 with loss with similar talent then the wins will be less and th elosses more.

No let's wait until the team actually plays games. Clearly we are not going to win April. Luckily no games are played in April and no wins are given for signing recruits that are highly rated by bloggers.
18  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: A10 Incoming/Outgoing List 2017-18 on: April 25, 2017, 01:42:26 pm
maybe not even then.  Some guys take longer to develop and blossom as upperclassmen.

See: Havsa, Ege
19  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Recruiting Update on: April 21, 2017, 04:38:48 pm
I am ok with one sit out transfer for next year but I wouldn't have wanted 2. The other 3 ships need to be used on people who can help next year (grad transfer, juco, international with experience or a Frosh who is promising and can help some next year.

20  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Recruiting Update on: April 19, 2017, 12:23:57 pm
Obviously would take Fazekas in a millisecond but a reminder that he would have to sit out next year so doesn't help us in the short term
21  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: A10 Incoming/Outgoing List 2017-18 on: April 18, 2017, 03:49:25 pm
Player follows coach from previous program. Not shocking. I am not sure if it is customary to block such transfers or if it only happens to us.

Tom Pecora agrees with you.
22  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Recruiting Update on: April 15, 2017, 08:48:19 pm
Fazekas is an interesting prospect. Started out of the gate on a very good Providence team last year but then got Mono and never really got back on track. I think he would be a good fit for our system.
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23  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Recruiting Update on: April 05, 2017, 04:57:09 pm
I do not think this is an either or situation.  We have 4 ships to give so we can sign this kid and a shooter and a power forward and Ryan who will sit out a year. 

That is exactly what I was thinking. It almost makes no sense anymore to react in the moment to the health of the program until you see the team on the court for the first game.
24  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Recruiting Update on: April 05, 2017, 04:53:35 pm
So an NEC player who committed 9 turnovers in a game against us is the equivalent of AA?  I dont see it as a trade-off.  Again, given how Havsa played, I think he can step into that role. Another combo guard who is a so shooter at best, not sure that's the answer. However, I do trust Neuabuer and Crawford as talent evalautors so maybe they think he can thrive here. 

AA is a unique athlete, inconsistent as all hell, but a clear A-10 level athlete who can defend.

Never said he would fully replace or be the equivalent of AA. It was more of a commentary of how we view our own players. AA did some really good things for us but he is not irreplaceable. Jiggets could replace some (not all) of those things although I have not seen him enough to know exactly how much. I have always said that replacing AA will be harder defensively than offensively.
25  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Recruiting Update on: April 05, 2017, 04:45:53 pm
Ryan has to sit  year.  But he's definitely a great 3 point shooter.

BTW, Chartouny was pretty damn good from 3 this year.  .382.  He shot .390 in conference.  And after the first 2 games back from injury (his bad shooting in St. John's and Manhattan game), he shot 42.7% from 3 the rest of the way in 19 games.  Havsa looked ok in conference in a tiny sample.  He made none in the OOC part of the schedule but barely played.  Overall he was at 33% and hopefully can improve.

Then there's Hicks.  BTW, another somewhat encouraging tweet by him, about a great weight session yesterday with Willie Cruz, Fordham hoops strength coach.  Willie replied that's just the start!

Yep but if we got the other 3 recruits then Ryan sitting for the year shouldn't hurt so much. Obviously you take him if he wants to come no matter what.
26  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Recruiting Update on: April 05, 2017, 01:02:54 pm
Here is why I dont see it as a fit. If we have JC, Havsa and Hicks with Zarkovic off bench, thats experience and 2 PG's. I think we need a pure shooter if one is available.   I dont think a combo guy is what would be needed since we were able to generate a lot of wide open shots last year, just couldnt knock them down. Now, if we sign him because maybe we could lose a guy and/or if Zarko isnt ready for his role, then it might make sense but we sorely need a real good shooter.  Abssent Sengfelder and with Bunting still a bit of a question mark we likely will have to sign a PF.  

See this as more of a possible replacement for AA. Agree we need a knock down shooter to go along with Hicks. Will be interesting to see how rest of the team shakes out.

My Wish List for the 4 Scholarships:
Knock down shooter G/SF
Combo Guard - Jiggets?
More Athletic PF
Best available Player - Ryan?
27  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Recruiting Update on: April 05, 2017, 12:56:10 pm
Jiggetts shot 36% as a junior from 3.  His percentage went down this year but there is no reason he cant get back to 36%.  Anderson shot 34% from three last year.  Do some research before making these ridiculous grand proclamations. 

The board went nuts when AA left as if there is no possible way we could replace him. In reality a kid like this comes pretty close.
28  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Should Fordham Deny Releases for Transfers? on: April 04, 2017, 12:19:00 pm
Nobody needed to come forward Peter....it was plainly obvious to anyone with a brain stem that the guy had lost it...and it does happen as coaching burnout in this profession.....the only guy who couldnt figure it out , unfortunately, was the AD...

Suggesting that Jio's being denied a transfer after that year,  a 3-25 record, had anything to do with it is preposterous.

The AD that cried when he let him go even though he signal handily submarined his most important program.
29  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Where is everybody going and why? on: March 31, 2017, 02:19:35 pm
Interesting topic and some viewpoints as well.  Thanks to 85, NY07 and 71 in particular as you raise some valid points.  
If coaches are able to do whatever they so choose and jump ship at a moment's notice, it's kinda of hard to blame the kids.  Just look at the example that is being set for them by their coaches.  Overall, I am not fond of the merry go round of players transferring as it is getting hard to root for a team when coaches and players alike are constantly looking for green pastures.

Overall, 71 may have said it best, you have to look at each student-athletes situation one by one.  Everyone makes decisions based on different variables and situations and I just hope these kids are making them for the best of intentions.  As a fan and alum, its just getting harder to stomach.  JN really has his work cut out for him to bring in some talent and I wish him all the best.  

I think the coaching example is bunk. Most people understand when players transfer when a new guy comes like EP did. That makes sense. Leaving the school when we are on the verge of a break out year to go somewhere for 1 year doesn't make sense to me. Those two helped get us to this point and you would think they would want to reap the rewards.
30  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Where is everybody going and why? on: March 31, 2017, 02:15:26 pm
These are young men, who have apparently done well academically and played to the best of their abilities and now wish to experience playing basketball at a different school. If given the same opportunity, I cannot say I would have chosen any differently.

Don;t you want to see where they end up before you make this proclamation?
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