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1  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Football / Re: Fordham @ Bryant on: Today at 04:41:12 pm
Seems reasonable to kill a guy after losing two games when he was a heavy underdog and without the services of his best player and 1st team All American running back   Roll Eyes

It seems like several posters were just waiting for the first opportunity to go there.
2  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Recruiting Update on: Today at 02:29:45 pm
I think the biggest one is that the school picks up the costs involved in an official visit and the parents/family are responsible for an unofficial one. 

Additionally, recruits are only allowed 5 official visits.
3  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Football / Re: DEFENSIVE AUTOPSY on: Yesterday at 07:47:54 pm
It's obvious that our defense, as bad as it was last year, appears to have even gotten worse.  77 seconds to score per drive by
EWU is abominable.

I was under the impression that we had hired the defensive coach of Bucknell who did have a pretty good defense the last few years.  Breiner I'm sure made the call to hire him, but is it Breiner's fault the defense has played so badly?  I am really asking because I don't know how much the head coach impacts the decisions made on defense.

We did not hire their D.C.
From his bio:
Bowes spent his last three years at Bucknell as the secondary coach/special teams coordinator.
4  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Football / Re: Chasing Greatness Documentary on: Yesterday at 08:12:55 am
you  said it not me...Wins and losses mean ZERO to Father McShane.

I think you missed my point.
5  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Football / Re: Chasing Greatness Documentary on: September 18, 2017, 03:05:09 pm
He could care less.

So you are saying he cares to some extent.
6  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Football / Re: DEFENSIVE AUTOPSY on: September 18, 2017, 11:33:38 am
Ace .... without stirring up cries of "Free Speech, First amendment, censorship, etc etc" ... I'd hate to see something as poisonous as some sort of "New HC" thread now.  Our coach id 9-4. Assuming we don't have a group of boosters putting together multimillion dollar packages to entice Nick Saban to the Bronx .... I'd hate to see a dumpster fire of a discussion like that in the beginning of this season.

On my maroon bruised knees I beg you not to facilitate that lunacy now.

-Don't let it poison the recruiting environment. Patriot League staffs will get the dialogue... and use it!
-Prospect parents read it

We are trying to increase fundraising ...  a new snake pit of careless or even malicious statements and charges won't help Fordham football.

Literally I can't believe this is a discussion.

Please look back and note what I said "Amen!" to.

If your post is not a reply to the "Amen!" then don't quote it. It confuses matters.
7  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Football / Re: PL Pick'Em for Week 4 and Standings as of Week 3 on: September 18, 2017, 11:04:14 am
Bryant
Lehigh
Colgate
Princeton
Georgetown
Holy Cross
Sacred Heart
8  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Football / Re: DEFENSIVE AUTOPSY on: September 18, 2017, 10:27:57 am
A new coach thread?  Way to support the team.  Look, we're 1-2, and lost to the 2 teams almost everyone thought we would lose to.  Granted, we clearly didn't belong on the field with either opponent, and that is disappointing, but let the season play out before talking about firing the coach.  They are not making a change in-season, so what is the harm in waiting?  I don't have to point out the potential harm in starting one too early.

Amen!
9  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Football / Re: Patriot league is now the worst fcs conf in the country on: September 16, 2017, 10:50:42 pm
Based on the following list of teams who have beaten up on our league

Monmouth
Sacred heart
Yale
Marist

Just opinion, got it.
10  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Football / Re: Patriot league is now the worst fcs conf in the country on: September 16, 2017, 09:01:37 pm
Is this opinion or based on ratings of some sort?
11  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Football / Re: Eastern Washington @ Fordham on: September 16, 2017, 02:19:18 pm
Fortuitous interception by Fordham on a trick play. Ball on the 20 to start and we are about to punt.
12  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Football / Re: Eastern Washington @ Fordham on: September 16, 2017, 02:16:35 pm
3rd and 6 and EWU converts easily. They are moving like a hot knife through butter.
13  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Football / Re: Eastern Washington @ Fordham on: September 16, 2017, 02:15:36 pm
Nothing on O again. Need a stop here badly!
14  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Football / Re: Eastern Washington @ Fordham on: September 16, 2017, 02:10:11 pm
is the stream back up for everyone else?

this is a link i found that works

http://www.vipleague.mobi/american-football/504424/1/eastern-washington-at-fordham-live-stream-online.html

That works. Thanks!
15  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Football / Re: Eastern Washington @ Fordham on: September 16, 2017, 02:09:20 pm
TD EWU. Too easy really. 7:25 left in 2nd Q, PAT is good. 21-7 EWU.
16  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Football / Re: Eastern Washington @ Fordham on: September 16, 2017, 02:05:38 pm
Down 14-7. We have not been able to do anything of much in our last two possessions.

EWU ball after another stalled FU drive. 9:09 left in the 2nd Q. This is a key series.
17  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Football / Re: Eastern Washington @ Fordham on: September 16, 2017, 01:45:57 pm
odd did you try a different browser?

2 different browsers. It just comes up with a blurry screen that says, "Video is not available at the moment. Please try again later."
18  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Football / Re: Eastern Washington @ Fordham on: September 16, 2017, 01:43:34 pm
Still no video for me, but game is tied up. 7-7. End of 1st Q.
19  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: 2017-18 Schedule Released on: September 14, 2017, 10:26:46 pm
It may not be a small fortune but it would equate to money we apparently do not have.

Notice the lipstick to the egg floor and sky boxes are not getting stared nor are the football coaches offices.
Every little bit helps.

True, every little bit helps, but you don't mess with your schedule for little bits.
20  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Football / Re: Eastern Washington @ Fordham on: September 14, 2017, 11:31:27 am

Requires a subscription. Not sure if that includes a fee or not.
21  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Football / Re: Chasing Greatness Documentary on: September 14, 2017, 09:49:43 am
Chase is a top notch talent and an impressive young man, but the piece was pretty dull IMO.  I can't imagine someone without an emotional attachment to the program or the school would invest the 10 minutes to watch this.  I'm not sure who the target audience is for this.  I agree its not a bad thing - and something is better than nothing.  I just didn't find it to be a compelling piece.

Amen.

I watched it in the hope that it would make my time on the treadmill less boring. It only mildly succeeded.
22  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Football / Re: Chasing Greatness Documentary on: September 14, 2017, 08:09:19 am
The worst part was that the team meeting had to be in an old Keating classroom. I took Business Planning in that theater style room 30 years ago  Shocked

I think the worst part was the walk to and into the coach's office. If it was walking through an old building that has some great history, it'd be one thing, but that's not the case.
23  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Football / Re: Fordham @ CCSU on: September 13, 2017, 04:11:54 pm
Yes and this from post game (Hartford Courant):

"You had two teams who left it all out on the field today," said the 33-year-old, baby-faced Breiner, who went 8-3 in his first season after replacing Joe Moorhead. "We got the pick six at the end, and that was ultimately the difference but a testament to how special the game of football is. I'm incredibly proud of our young men and battling through some adversity, battling from being down and coming back. I'm really impressed by them and proud of them."

Now, I understand the power of positive thinking, but I like the idea (the necessity) of the coach setting the tone for the program. I think that it's great that he lauds the players for tenacity, but it would be entirely appropriate for him to say that the slow starts (and other negatives) in the first two games of the season are unacceptable.

Poor ball security, bad special teams play, blown assignments in the secondary. These need to be called out. Play like that in the league and they will be toast.

I am not convinced it needs to be called out publicly.
24  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Football / Re: Chasing Greatness Documentary on: September 13, 2017, 12:43:13 pm
by the way, those football offices are still locked into 1980's. 

Larry Glueck called, he wants his office back.

When I was there, one of those offices used to be Murph's office when he was the strength and conditioning coach and also did things for intramurals. I think the other was the intramurals office.

I would say it is unbelievable, but it is very believable unfortunately.
25  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Football / Re: Chasing Greatness Documentary on: September 13, 2017, 10:50:11 am
It reads "Episode 1." Should we expect more?
Not sure but they are promoting it.  Found this which gives a schedule that some posters can put in their calendar so they can get to work now on posts ripping the administration, coaches, players, etc.  It's clear there's no need to view or read the content before claiming something was the dumbest idea ever so they can all get a jump on it now and have it queued up:

http://www.fordhamsports.com/news/2017/9/12/football-first-episode-of-chasing-greatness-live.aspx
26  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Football / Re: Fordham @ CCSU on: September 13, 2017, 10:06:16 am
Clemson are the national champions and they hired a coach who played and coached at Alabama. That's a different world than the Patriot League and a coach from Lock Haven, 

At that level, hiring a coach with zero HC/OC experience after no national search is crazier than a PL team that has had average success in the playoffs hiring their current OC as head coach.
27  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Football / Re: Fordham @ CCSU on: September 13, 2017, 09:57:23 am
He was still the OC, even for a short period of time. He was not the HC he was the interim HC. Like Jared.

Comparing the national champions and a coach with Alabama pedigree to a coach with Lock Haven pedigree is no correlation. You want to find a very young HC at our level who succeeded, then we can discuss, but tapping into a guy who played at Alabama and coached for 7 years at Alabama , to me, is apples and oranges. We obviously have one very pertinent example in Ed Foley. 

The leash is shorter because we were a perennial national power and have a very large budget and a any roll back to mediocrity should not be tolerated. Its been definitively proven that you can win here. The bar should be set very high.  And, I am just surmising but I would assume he is not locked into a long term, high dollar contract, which always shortens a leash. 

I said I agree with the leash being short.

As to the correlation, you are splitting hairs.
28  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Football / Re: Fordham @ CCSU on: September 13, 2017, 09:46:15 am
What leash would you like to see?  He's the coach now.  Once you hire a guy it's his show.  This was a weak hire on the basis of not doing a search.  On paper, he's done well, as has been pointed out. He's the coach now until he's not. 

I do not want to see the leash. That's done internally. Point being, you give him less opportunity to fail than you would if say Moorhead had a down year. We are not there yet though.
29  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Football / Re: Fordham @ CCSU on: September 13, 2017, 09:02:49 am
He was "interim" HC and OC at the same time. Then after that short stint, they hired him as permanent HC. But its splitting hairs. He spent 7 years at Alabama and there is absolutely zero correlation between his hiring and success to us hiring a 31 y/o head coach with no search process.

I understand the dynamic,  a hot young up and comer and he could have been scooped up by a big program as OC . So Fordham struck quickly and took the calculated risk of hiring such a young coach. Is he the youngest HC in D1 football?  It will inevitably meet with great scrutiny and a short leash, that is how it works. Coaches understand that, goes with the territory.

It might be splitting hairs, but you went there. He inherited the OC as the same time he inherited the HC, so he was never an OC before being a HC.  As southcarolinaram pointed out, there is a correlation in that there was no national search. Perhaps not enough of a correlation, that can be argued, but certainly not zero correlation.

I agree that the leash right now should be short. Need to be on top of it now, so that it does not spiral.
30  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Football / Re: Fordham @ CCSU on: September 13, 2017, 08:11:34 am
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dabo_Swinney

In 2008, he was the OC  interim HC, according to Wiki. He also played at Alabama and had 7 years of coaching experience under his belt at the best program in the country. 

Regardless, anyone with a functioning brain stem can see that right now this team appears discombobulated from a coaching standpoint. You dont wait it out like Frank to let it hit rock bottom. You start to evaluate right now.  Anyone with 5 seconds of experience in sports knows that you start to evaluate the day the coach is hired. And right now there are a lot of red flags. Red flags often mean nothing this early, and things straighten out.....but it doesnt mean that you ignore them. This is a sports discussion board so of course people will be pointing to the obvious red flags.....porous D line, completely inept special teams and a kicker who cant lift it 2 feet off the ground.....the HC hired a new D coordinator this year and to me that is the biggest question mark right now....that hire by the HC...but again, the football and Gridiron folks have a proven track record of knowing what they are doing, so I trust it is in good hands.

From the same wiki page:
Many fans and pundits criticized his lack of coordinator let alone head coaching experience, as well as the fact that he had been on the staff of fired coach Tommy Bowden.

From Tommy Bowden's wikie page:
Assistant head coach/wide receivers coach Dabo Swinney was named as interim head coach for the remainder of the season.
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