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1  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Softball / Re: Softball vs Bonnies 4/19 on: April 21, 2017, 11:09:29 am
Why play only one team twice at all?  Is there some limit as to the amount of conference games you can play?   
2  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: AA to UCONN on: April 18, 2017, 04:50:27 pm
Best advice my daughter and I were ever given came from her travel coach who reminded everyone looking to play ball in college that as soon as you step on campus as Freshmen, your coach and his staff are out there trying to find someone to replace you.
3  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: AA to UCONN on: April 18, 2017, 04:35:57 pm
How many football players transfer out each year?  I honestly have no idea but I do not read that there is this mass exodus every year but maybe I dont pay attention.  Help me out here: how many football players transferred out of Fordham after the 2016 season?  I am interested to know.  

That makes no sense.  Disloyalty would have been telling him we are not renewing your scholarship.  Disloyalty would have been lying to him saying he would play so he could get him to stay and then sit him on the bench in a break glass in case of emergency case.

Your use of the word "loyalty" is misplaced. I have already said JN telling Suarez what his honest assessment of his talent and place on his team is commendable.  To me those are signs and traits of JN's character.  Loyalty has nothing to do with it.
4  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: AA to UCONN on: April 18, 2017, 03:53:53 pm
How about his mother posting on this board?

A quote from Mapi in a thread she started:

I'm Manny's mother, I wrote the post, Manny and I love Fordham, Manny  believes JN is a good coach, but  JN  was very clear went told Manny he was not going to play because ahead of him was CS Canty, Rhoomes and the new recruit  . My son is not going to sit another year, he is going to play for David because Adelphi is in a good D2 conference and he will play immediately, Manny never thought  for one second to leave Fordham; he had two tough years one of them with injuries and now is one hundred percent, at the VCU game that's him, so for those that think for one second that Manny's plan was to leave Fordham  let me tell you he is in pain for leaving it was a good learning experience, but his is looking forward to a good future with Duke.
Once again THANK YOU.
GO RAMS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mom's own words: "Manny  believes JN is a good coach, but  JN  was very clear went told Manny he was not going to play because ahead of him was CS Canty, Rhoomes and the new recruit  ." are a lot closer to the truth than your spin. JN very clearly told him he was not going to play as there were four players ahead of him, a clear signal that he was not wanted. So much for loyalty.

I have nothing wrong with JN or any new coach giving the players he is inheriting an honest assessment of their talent and where they stand with him.  As a matter of fact, I think it is commendable to be honest with the remaining players so they can make a decision that is best for them. What I disagree with is this notion of "loyalty" and "obligation" as it has nothing to do with AA or any player.  
5  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: AA to UCONN on: April 18, 2017, 03:40:18 pm
What I posted is fact not rumor.  You can believe it or not.  Similar conversation to Neubauer and Manny actually.  Anderson stayed and became a better player. 

Without a credible source, I choose not to believe it.
6  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: AA to UCONN on: April 18, 2017, 03:32:02 pm
He was not run off.  He was told you may not get a lot of playing time.  He chose to leave instead of staying and proving himself.  His choice. 

How do you know what he was told?  Were you a part of the meeting?
7  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: AA to UCONN on: April 18, 2017, 03:29:16 pm
Where were all these moral high roaders when Manny Suarez was runoff. Young man had a 3.5 index and played / practiced thru a shoulder injury .

The same place when we ran DBA off the team.  Loyalty is a two way street and does not apply.  If you want loyalty then don't recruit over a kid once he signs. If you want loyalty then have your coach commit in writing that he will stay all four years that you are there. AA graduated within four years and chose to play his remaining year of eligibility at a program that is way beyond Fordham. Why not?  I wish him well.
8  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Recruiting Update on: April 14, 2017, 11:18:31 pm
We are constantly rolling the boulder uphill.

Great, great job by Fr. McShane and the BOT. Cowards.

Frightening glory!
9  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Softball / Re: Softball at George Mason 4/8-9 on: April 07, 2017, 03:47:17 pm
What is her injury?
10  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Coach Hurley on: April 07, 2017, 02:59:13 pm
   Spreading the Good News and serving as living witnesses is arguably more impactful precisely when the audience is non-practicing. 

+1  The students I have had the pleasure to work with are not viewed as "square pegs" (no disrespect to the TV show) trying to fit into "round holes", but young men being taught Catholic values and principals that they hopefully carry with them throughout their lives.
11  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Coach Hurley on: April 07, 2017, 02:50:54 pm
I ask purely out of curiosity, but what do struggling catholic schools like St. anthonys, rice, power. brooklyn prep, do to close that a school like regis does to stay open?  I mean regis covers the cost of every kid>  The costs must be astronomical.  I will hangup and listen.

Regis is a different animal altogether.  It has always been tuition free, you need to pass an entrance examination and it has a tremendous reputation.
12  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Coach Hurley on: April 07, 2017, 12:02:16 pm


Greater good is fine. Does the Catholic church marry people in Church who are not Catholic? Do we have non Catholic funerals or baptisms? You think its a good idea for Scientologists or Muslin kids or Orthodox Jews to be going to a Catholic high school? What do they do during the weekly mass or the pre-class prayer?  I cant come to school this week because it is Ramadan or Passover or some other religious holy week?

I dont care what someone's religion is or isnt but Catholic school is just that.   If there are not enough practicing Catholics to attend, then either close or simply change your mission to be a private school for all without a diocesan or Catholic affiliation. Populations change, especially in urban areas.   Forcing non Catholics into Catholic schools just to stay open is wayward of the mission of Catholic schools, in my opinion. Im sure many disagree.

For example, the mission statement of Holy Trinity Diocesan HS in Long Island:

"It is the mission of Holy Trinity High School to be a living witness to the Gospel of Jesus Christ as a community of faith, hope and love.  We seek to educate the whole person: mind, heart, soul and body and to motivate all students in the pursuit of truth and academic excellence, preparing them for future educational opportunities and service to the Church and to the world. "


From Mt. St. Michael's Belief statement on it's webpage:

A Catholic school exists first and foremost to spread the Good News of Jesus Christ.

 
 

The 1950s just called, they want your views on Catholic education back.
13  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Coach Hurley on: April 07, 2017, 10:43:08 am

Its a private school. Period. They failed. Period. Nobody cares. It has no relevance to Fordham basketball.

Why mask yourself as a Catholic school if your students are not Catholic? Do Catholic kids go to school at Yeshiva?  Maybe if these schools stopped hiding behind the veil of being Catholic and just became a private school for all faiths to help underprivileged kids, they might survive. Especially since that is truly what they have become in many instances.



They do not mask themselves as a Catholic school.  It is very clearly understood that you are attending a private Catholic HS but where you are mistaken is your statement that they cannot help underprivileged kids of all faiths and still remain true to their Catholic values and principals.  They do so everyday.
14  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Coach Hurley on: April 07, 2017, 10:12:23 am

Yo think these basketball players are Catholic?

Who cares, at the Mount these days Baptists comprise over a quarter of the student body and non-Catholics nearly 40%.  The parents recognize the benefits of a structured education in a safe environment.

When St. Dominic's in Oyster Bay was trying to dig out from its multiple sex scandals, they were offering athletic scholarships like they were condoms at a NYC public HS. Catholicism was the least requirement they had.

If I had basketball talent and lived in the inner city, playing for a man Coach Hurley and the cache of his program would make a lot of sense to me. 
15  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Coach Hurley on: April 07, 2017, 09:39:40 am
First of all, the school has been on the verge for a lot longer than five years.  Second, you don't get books written, movies produced, 60 Minutes segments, to say nothing of the countless newspaper and magazine articles, about you and your program if the "community at large could not care less about you."  I know dozens of basketball and, more importantly, non-basketball people who have been talking about the fate of St. Anthony for years (certainly more in recent weeks), and that's without leaving my little world.  Second of all, the guy is constantly fund raising at a grassroots level - there aren't a few people keeping the school open.  Are there bigger and better schools?  Of course, but that's not the point of St. Anthony.  The school covers, I think, 50% of the tuition for every student via fund raising.  They fought to keep the doors open not just for the basketball players, but for the kids that don't have better educational opportunities.  Economics. Politics.  It's been a losing battle all along for St. Anthony, it just so happened that Hurley built the premier high school basketball program in the country for the better part of four decades at that school, which is what kept the doors open this long.  The impact he's had on that community, and the respect he's garnered is legendary.  To claim otherwise is just dumb.

The issues confronting Catholic HS in the inner cities today are so different than those of the suburban Catholic HS.  Just not understanding the animosity towards a man who could have made multiples of his salary at the collegiate level but instead chose to stay at the school and the program he built from scratch? 

I mentor students at my HS, The Mount, and the issues they and the school face are so different from the Iona Preps, Chaminades and St. Anthony's/LI of the world. The school subsidizes a large part of each student's tuition but does not have the access to the wealth that these other schools have. For the parents of these kids it is indeed a sacrifice to send them to the school.  I applaud Coach Hurley for his dedication to providing opportunities to not only his players but to other kids who did not play ball for him.
16  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Softball / Re: Aughinbaugh Named A10 Pitcher of the Week on: April 04, 2017, 11:58:05 am
You are correct, you cannot compare pitch counts in baseball to softball.  In HS my daughter pitched every inning of every game her senior year ending at the State quarterfinals and then went straight to travel pitching 4-6 games every weekend all summer and had no problems with her arm ever feeling tired.  In college she would often pitch one game and relieve if needed in the second.  Thing is she was the norm, not the exception. Jen with the Rams and Olivia Galati at Hofstra were two pitchers who could and often did pitch both games of the doubleheader.

Pitching in softball is even more important than in baseball.  If you do not have quality pitching in SB, it does not matter how well your batters hit and fielders field, you are going nowhere.  I once heard a coach describe the SB pitcher as the most important position in all of sports and I agree with that statement.
17  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Where is everybody going and why? on: April 03, 2017, 02:56:34 pm
To anyone familiar with travel/AAU basketball teams, I am curious if it is common for these programs to experience a lot of defections and players switching teams?  I know from my experience with travel softball that it was not uncommon for there to be large roster turnover from one season to the next. Just wondering if the players today have grown up in systems where switching teams is not unusual and in fact the norm, then perhaps it is not so surprising that the practice carries over to college ball as well?
18  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Should Fordham Deny Releases for Transfers? on: April 03, 2017, 02:38:37 pm
I am wrong, you have to continue to play:

Bronx, N.Y. (November 3, 2014) Fordham University will offer four-year athletic scholarships to all scholarship student-athletes beginning with the incoming class of 2015 it was announced by Director of Athletics Dave Roach.  This new policy will replace the former one-year renewable scholarships.

"This new policy affirms Fordham University's support of its student-athletes," said Roach. "We are committed to providing our student-athletes with the best possible experience, both on and off the field. This decision, along with other such as the creation Fordham Leadership Academy, will help our student-athletes now and in the future."
 
All incoming freshmen for the class of 2019 will sign letters of intent that guarantee the student-athlete a scholarship for four years, provided the student-athlete continues to participate in the sport for which the grant is awarded and the student-athlete adheres to all eligibility requirements. The student-athlete must remain in good academic standing, and abide by all University regulations.

Fordham offers merit based scholarships in the following sports: baseball, men's basketball, women's basketball, football, women's rowing, men's soccer, women's soccer, softball, men's swimming and diving, women's swimming and diving, women's tennis, men's cross country/track & field, women's cross country/track & field, volleyball and water polo.
19  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Should Fordham Deny Releases for Transfers? on: April 03, 2017, 02:35:57 pm
It does not work that way.  If you choose not to play you lose your scholarship in which case you stay you pay and dont play.  Or you can choose to leave but you are sitting 2 years. 

I could be wrong but I thought earlier this school year the University announced that they would honor a student's athletic scholarship for all four years even if they no longer played.
20  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Where have they really gone? on: April 03, 2017, 01:42:22 pm
Did you even read the second part of his post? Jesus what a miserable crank you are.

+1
21  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Should Fordham Deny Releases for Transfers? on: April 03, 2017, 01:38:38 pm
Who said anything about denying a "transfer? "  Nobody. That doesnt even exist.

What you can do is simply enforce the rules of a scholarship and deny a "release" as posted in the thread title, which would require a player to sit for 2 years as opposed to 1 year.  Deny a transfer ? Where did you get that from? 

I also believe that if a release is given it can be limited to where a player can transfer. Didn't Hofstra prevent Chazz Williams from being released to Fordham with Pecora?

Denying the release and forcing the kid to sit out two years will be, in most cases, denying the transfer.  Be careful what you wish for, what will you do when the player says screw you, I won't play for you and gets to keep his scholarship.  Now you can have a scholarship tied up for 2-3 years not being used.
22  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Should Fordham Deny Releases for Transfers? on: April 03, 2017, 09:05:06 am
"full academic scholarship?" - Tuition, room and board

I do not know if it includes summer school as well but I do know, as I did it myself, you can take an extra course every semester. So, even with without summer classes, it would not be too difficult to utilize AP credits and extra courses to knock off at least a semester if not a whole year.
23  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Should Fordham Deny Releases for Transfers? on: April 03, 2017, 08:41:49 am
If we are going to deny transfers and not allow graduate transfers are we going to practice what we preach and adopt a policy that we will no longer accept transfers and graduate transfers?
24  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Should Fordham Deny Releases for Transfers? on: April 03, 2017, 08:38:21 am
If they're going to treat basketball like a business, this isn't the place to start.

Wholeheartedly agree.  If this is going to be treated like a business, then start with the most obvious problem: facilities.  Upgrade them immediately and/or develop off-campus solutions. Clean house in the Athletic Department and develop a marketing program.

As for telling players who choose to graduate in 3 years that they cannot go to any graduate school except Fordham, besides being unenforceable, why limit it to just athletic scholarships?  Anyone who has a full academic scholarship cannot graduate early and go to a school other than Fordham.  Why should we lose a year's worth of their intellectual capital?
25  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Where is everybody going and why? on: April 01, 2017, 10:54:03 am
Newsflash , 95% of D1 basketball players don't give a damn about the education. That's the truth
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+1
26  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Where is everybody going and why? on: March 31, 2017, 02:58:42 pm
I understand the college hoops landscape has changed, but whatever the landscape, we seem to come up on the short end and suffer setbacks in the ability to progress...

Not anymore, now that we have Frank's name on our court, success is just around the corner!
27  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Where is everybody going and why? on: March 31, 2017, 02:22:27 pm
Don;t you want to see where they end up before you make this proclamation?

Not really. I have no idea what is or has gone into their thought process to decide to leave.
28  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Where is everybody going and why? on: March 31, 2017, 02:06:47 pm
I am criticizing their decision and what is surprising to me is the number of people here who think we should just thank them as if they did Fordham a favor coming in the first.  There is nothing wrong with pointing out what Fordham gave these guys.  A lot of self loathing alumni here.  Reality is both of these players gained a substantial benefit from Fordham, I am not going through it again and when it was time for the Fordham basketball program to move forward they decided to leave.  If you told me two years ago this would happen I would have said we would be better off having them leave and then trying to find players who want to be part of accomplishing the goal of Fordham basketball in addition to achieving their personal goals.  That is how I see this, and going forward Fordham needs to do a better job of protecting itself and the program.  

I think the prevailing view that has been expressed is that while most posters wish they would have decided to stay, they wish them well.  Other than you saying it, I have not read many posts expressing the view that they believe these players did Fordham a favor by coming here.  These are young men, who have apparently done well academically and played to the best of their abilities and now wish to experience playing basketball at a different school. If given the same opportunity, I cannot say I would have chosen any differently.
29  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Where is everybody going and why? on: March 31, 2017, 09:10:19 am
...and it is getting to the point that fans like me are going to stop watching and simply go to NBA games because these kids don't appreciate the opportunity they are given.   

And NBA players do?  Have you watched the Knicks lately?
30  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Softball / Re: Softball vs URI 3/25-26 on: March 25, 2017, 01:04:33 pm
Thanks for the update.TCB!
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