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1  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Sengfelder to Boise st on: April 16, 2017, 08:30:21 am
 I would have preferred to see him at Duke or UNC Chapel Hill, etc. not only for the BB but the academics as well. BSU should be a breeze for him. But he will always be a Fordham man and I am sure he will be a terrific representative of Fordham in all his future endeavors.  I hope he has good memories and sentiments toward Fordham.
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What are you smoking? Duke or North Carolina? Last I checked, those programs win national championships consistently and it's not by recruiting below average 5th year Atlantic 10 players. He wouldn't carry towels for Unc or duke
2  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Football / Re: Moorhead ESPN / Fordham & Power 5 mention on: April 14, 2017, 07:21:08 am
Too many coaches jump into a bad situation just to be a head coach. He can stay in happy valley make over a million bucks a year and wait for Franklin to Jump onto the NFL. I see this as a chip Kelly / Oregon situation. If the penn state offense continues to drop 35 plus points a game and they continue to win big , I see Franklin in the NFL and JM named head coach at penn state. Unless it's a no brainer job for Jm to take , he should stay at penn state .
3  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: The 2017-18 Fordham Rams could have been the 2016-17 Rhode Island Rams on: April 08, 2017, 02:24:10 pm
"If the Queen had balls she would be king" or

"If ifs and butts were candy and nuts then everyday would be Christmas
4  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Football / Re: P. Odom - Pro Day/NFL Draft Outlook on: April 04, 2017, 07:13:48 pm


"I've heard a few people compare me to Julius Thomas," Odom told me. "We have a similar background. He was a basketball player and started playing football. He just came out of nowhere. I feel like I have the potential to do that. Just get to the league and learn from the older guys and coaches. I feel like I'm capable of being a starter in the league."
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If this is anywhere close to accurate , our coaching staff should be fired. The Julius Thomas of the patriot league would certainly have more than 14 catches in a season..
5  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Where is everybody going and why? on: April 03, 2017, 01:12:24 pm
We all should ask ourselves one question with every single player that leaves the program.

1) is this player good enough to help us win an A-10 championship?

That's it that's all. If the answer is no , than honestly who cares. I'm sure JN feels the same way. Yes we could take a step back but a step back from 8-13 ? Who cares ! If these guys can't help you win an A-10 championship than go get the guys who can .

It's not exactly the same but how many dozens of players quit , transferred , left school before clawson won the patriot league?

Rather get them out now and bring in the right guys
6  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Should Fordham Deny Releases for Transfers? on: April 02, 2017, 01:17:34 pm
No they shouldn't

1) it becomes a PR nightmare as players as well as mommy and daddy go crying to the press about the evil school who won't release them

2) I don't want a player on the team who doesn't want to be here.
7  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Where is everybody going and why? on: April 02, 2017, 11:22:21 am
If it's not education, and it's not facilities .... what is it?

Maybe the best players want to be around smokin' hot cheerleaders?   How are we on that dimension?

Maybe they want less exciting cities to live in?

It most be something that holds us back in recruiting, and, importantly, trading up in transfers, not trading down on the quality of our transfers.


I said they don't care about education , I didn't say facilities... players want the swag , the fancy uniforms, the cool facilities But also  something that makes them feel that the program is important to the university and community. You don't need the best facilities but at least give the impression that you take playing D1 basketball seriously..

Our administration does the absolute bare minimum in terms of supporting division 1athletics. Everything they do is bush league. It's obvious to fans and players. How do you expect fans , recruits and players to take the program seriously when the administration clearly does not.
8  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Where have they really gone? on: April 02, 2017, 11:12:04 am
Players transfer for many different reasons. A high majority of transfers are players that can't cut it at their current school. They see the writing on the wall and opt to leave because they no longer fit into the coaches plans or they are just afraid to compete and want a starting spot handed to them. I view 90% of transfers as having baggage that you don't want any part of. They quit on their previous school , so chances are they will quit on you as well. The problems they had prior (work ethic, sense of competition , poor grades ,etc.) don't disappear because they transfer.

Some players at mid major schools such as EP have success and want to give it a shot at a major program such as Villanova because they long for the big time and still have a chip on their shoulder for not being recruited. Personally it's the coaches job to keep these guys happy where they are and ensure they stay ( i.e. Steph curry /Davidson)

The graduate transfer rule is a different story all together and has changed the game and how people are viewing transfers... everyone sees gonzaga in the final 4,reads about their transfers and thinks that's the norm. That is the acception not the norm as most transfers just ring their baggage to a new school
9  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Where is everybody going and why? on: April 01, 2017, 06:39:54 am
Sorry that I left "free" as the impression.
The key word in my sentence wasn't 'free'....it was 'our'...... our free education vs their free education.

Assuming that the level of work is the same here, as it might be at say, St Joseph's...., then how the transfer prospect values a Fordham education, vs SJU, is the contrast I'm citing.

We believe our education is more valuable than most, but  'transfer in' behavior will let us know if it is more or less valuable.

I shutter to think that the prospect's criteria is crowd size, facilities, tourney potential, student support.

Newsflash , 95% of D1 basketball players don't give a damn about the education. That's the truth
10  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Matt Ryan notre Dame on: March 31, 2017, 06:22:34 am
Narrow the list. BC is out. Can't transfer to another ACC school.



If he gets a full release he can transfer anywhere he wants
11  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Matt Ryan notre Dame on: March 30, 2017, 08:30:55 pm
I would think a prospective recruit or transfers admission would be handled by the basketball staff. I was not a college athlete so I could be wrong.

Not when that player is still on scholarship at another school. Fordham coaches couldn't have anything to do with it
12  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Fordham’s Joseph Chartouny to Declare for NBA Draft on: March 30, 2017, 01:05:12 pm
But I find it very ironic that we've said for years how awful it is that college basketball exploits these poor kids.  Squeezing their athletic value out, and tossing them aside when their eligibility is over. Left without degrees, and basic skills to make them employable,

I have never in my life said or felt this .. they get a full scholarship to play basketball. They also get the best of everything I terms of tutors, academic help, training etc. they do not get a degree and job skills handed to them , it is not a given or a right.

Hopefully the 4 or 5 years were used to also study and get a degree because once they leave , coaches can't hold their hands and walk them to a job interview or somehow give them knowledge and skills that they should have learned in class like everyone else.

Not of these athletes  are so spoiled because they have been treated like gods their entire life. One day They wake up and realize the NBA is not calling and they just wasted a chance to eat an education. After they realize this, the reaction is blame the evil NCAA that used them and spit them out but never accept blame for themselves. Sorry son , you just wasted a 250,000 dollar education.

Yes they play basketball but is that life any tougher than the student who has 2 jobs putting themselves through school
13  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Matt Ryan notre Dame on: March 30, 2017, 07:08:10 am
A native of Cortlandt Manor. N.Y., Ryan will sit out the 2017-18 seasons under NCAA transfer regulations. He will have two years of eligibility remaining.

Notre Dame soph Matt Ryan is leaving the team. Ryan is from Westchester county and went to Iona prep , never reached potential at ND but still a good player. Can't help next year but should take a hard run at him
14  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Fordham’s Joseph Chartouny to Declare for NBA Draft on: March 29, 2017, 03:50:38 pm
He could guard Chartouny.

Dude .. that is funny ... comment of the day !
15  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Fordham’s Joseph Chartouny to Declare for NBA Draft on: March 29, 2017, 02:48:01 pm
Notice the new posters breathlessly posting what may be bad news for the Rams. Amazing that for a team that has achieved so little success on the court for many years, there are so many long knives out there ready to plunge into its heart. What a world!

Are you serious? This is actual news and important news, nothing to do with grudges or people with ill intent..are you upset that someone posted this ? .. you're a moron , go away and tell Kim Jong UN I say hello since you are trying to control what news should and should not be shared. Only rainbows and butterflies for you
16  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Moving forward 2017-18 on: March 29, 2017, 10:21:39 am
Yes not saying he wouldn't have helped us next year but the ceiling is there. He has a certain skill set that will be useful to the right team.

I also find it funny that according to some we are a trainwreck because we lost 3 of our top scorers. Those top scorers were good enough for the 305th best offense in Division 1. As Greenwood said we will miss AA's defense but on offense I am more than happy not to relive last year with the scoring going through the same cast of characters.

It's not a problem if you don't mind starting from scratch and rebuilding in year 3 with JN. Somehow the "we are really young excuse" seems to be the case every year . At some point you have to develop the players you have rather than turn them over every year .

So you don't think losing 3 top scorers are a problem .. I do because those guys with another year of development is how you build a program. Now we start over with another crop of freshman or whoever else in year 3?
17  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Moving forward 2017-18 on: March 28, 2017, 10:00:24 pm
Cuse made the Final Four last year and was the Number 1 seed in the NIT this year. They're not offering AA anything, including warming the bench.

I took it as only an illustration.

I don't think you understand the value of 4th and 5th year players to these schools. With so many kids leaving early for the pros and others transferring , these teams love a mature player with real college game experience . Someone who plays meaningful minutes in the A-10 for 3 or 4 years can provide depth and experience to a team like Syracuse .

Are they going to be the star or the lottery pick no but they provide an experience mature player to help bring along a team after most of their talented players leave school before their junior years
18  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: "Faith and Hope Campaign" on: March 28, 2017, 08:50:49 pm
Did you see a breakdown of how this money will be used?

Either way doesn't surprise me as mcshane never pretended to care about athletics.
19  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Moving forward 2017-18 on: March 26, 2017, 12:53:07 pm
Thats exactly right in my view.....everything on returning players and newbies needs an asterisk..... Basketball is a year at a time these days. 55% transfer rates, Clearinghouse denials, academic ineligibilities, injuries....... coaching changes and kids let of of NLIs.....its basically evaluate on game 1 when the team is in uniform, on the floor.....

For bad, poorly run, inconsistent , losing programs , yes that is true. Consistent winners and good programs are not run this way. I know you like to point out the transfer rate but good programs have consistancy in coaching and recruiting. They don't turnover coaches every 3 years, they don't see multiple recruits leave the program after a year.

Yes the grad transfer rule has changed the game some but don't twist things here and say everything is year to hear based on who's on the court gen 1. Great programs recruit and develop their players and have consistent coaching.

You can point out Kentucky and others with their one and done all Americans but that's not what we're talking about. In order to build a winner here we can't turn over coaches every 3 years and can't have recruits leaving or being chased out after a year or 2.
20  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Sengfelder to transfer on: March 25, 2017, 02:12:43 pm
The issue for some of us is the lack of loyalty to the school that gave him a lot and to date got not too much in return
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What exactly has the school given him that he should be so greatfull for and loyal to? He received an athletic scholarship based on HIS athletic ability and could have gotten that scholarship at many other schools. Fordham gave him no charity as he earned that scholarship.

He was recruited by the previous coach and staff and when a new coach came in with a new system and chased away many of his former teammates wha choice did he have? Leave the school and sit out a full year before you can play again.

He stayed played out 2 seasons earned a degree and is now free to do whatever he chooses.. He owes nobody nothing!
21  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Sengfelder to transfer on: March 25, 2017, 10:13:57 am
Sengfelder is not going to be playing meaningful minutes in the ACC or the Big 10

In your opinion he can't. I'm my opinion he can . 2 years ago northwestern would have finished 7th in the A-10 now you think theta they are somehow out of reach for a mature 6-7 5th year senior to log meaningful minutes
22  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Sengfelder to transfer on: March 25, 2017, 10:11:37 am
I get that, but people seem to be saying the same things over and over.

Here's a question I find interesting. If Sengfelder had stats that are worthy of the Hall of Fame, and I think he is borderline, would he get in if he finishes his final year elsewhere? I, for one, have a hard time seeing them voting someone in who left the school early and put on another college's uniform.

Depends on if the voters carry a grudge or not. I have no problem with the transfer as he has fulfilled his obligation to Fordham. He graduated. This is the only true position of power that an NCAA athlete has. If you graduate you are done and free to play out a 5th yet elsewhere.
23  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Sengfelder to transfer on: March 25, 2017, 09:55:53 am
I think this thread has run its course. Nobody is convincing nobody of nothing. Wink  In fact, I think the opposite is happening; it is for me, at least. The more I read these comments that oppose my opinion, the more solid I feel about my opinion.

That's the beauty of message boards and sports  Ace we can all have different opinions , we can argue and state our own opinions.

It's not meant to force our views or beliefs on someone else or demand that they think the same way we do. We have too much of that in the world right now and don't need it here
24  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Sengfelder to transfer on: March 25, 2017, 09:38:33 am
it's OK that you don't like to win....I don't understand.....but it is ok.....and these pipe dreams that he is going to go play at a Northwestern or somewhere like that are pipe dreams.


You're a moron ! He's a 5th year senior 6-7 and averaged 12ppg.. major programs will be tripping over themselves to get him. Teams like northwestern, wake forest are lining up and drooling to get get him.

He doesn't have to be a star but these major conf teams get a mature proven player to contribute . So it's not a pipe dream . Northwestern made their first NCAA tournament in 85 years , they are not exactly a basketball factory so yes he can play there and they would love to have him just like 20 other major teams.
25  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Sengfelder to transfer on: March 24, 2017, 08:01:56 pm
I'll ask one more time - why does everyone think this was just Sengfelder's decision?

So you think JN ran him off? A 6-7 guy who averaged 12ppg  and 6 rbd per game . JN needs to win games in year 3 or he may be looking for work , why would he get rid of him?
26  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Not sure how people think this was a good season on: March 24, 2017, 08:15:52 am
Sorry.  Stopped reading at rah rah rah.  You take care too, but also try to develop your reasoning and logic.

Actually no , you read the whole thing
27  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Not sure how people think this was a good season on: March 23, 2017, 09:24:01 pm
There's a not so subtle difference between critical, which at times is certainly deserved and I welcome as long as the poster knows what he or she is talking about, and flat out stupid or, worse, insulting.  The Zarko comments, and the remarks of yours that I mocked earlier, fall into the latter two categories and demonstrate a complete lack of understanding of team sports, competition and college basketball.  I summed it up for you when I posted there are two types of people then cited the well thought out replies of other posters who provided stats, well articulated perspective and, sadly, just plain old common sense to refute your claims.  Since then all you've done is talk in circles without providing any examples to support your original post.  In this case, the fact that someone thinks statistics and team accomplishments are sufficient to determine Zarko's worth at this level and his value to the team are just plain idiotic, and if people are going to make public comments like that, then they have to be prepared to get criticized themselves.  Am I still in my safe space, snowflake?

All you are is a cheerleader .. rah rah rah .. not sure what your true motive is but there is something there because you fly off the handle anytime someone questions JN or makes any type of negative comment..

I've complimented this program many times and I'm critical when it's deserved. I'm not a blind cheerleader like you. We don't have to respond to one another anymore we obviously will never agree so take care ..
28  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Not sure how people think this was a good season on: March 23, 2017, 08:18:14 pm
Does anyone have time to start a "Stupid Post of the Day" thread, or a poll for us to periodically vote on the dumbest comments seen on Fordhamfans.com?

So anyone who has anything critical to say about a tenth place team with a losing record is making stupid comments? I guess we should just come on here and praise everybody and everything , would that make you happy?
29  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Not sure how people think this was a good season on: March 22, 2017, 08:16:57 pm
Rich93 tackled that one before I could get to it.

Yea he threatened to beat me up after school
30  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Not sure how people think this was a good season on: March 21, 2017, 02:55:30 pm
Ok snowflake stay in your safe space hiding in anonymity while acting the part of the tough guy.   Big bad Madram breaking out the snowflake and safe space overly used trope as he hides in his own safe space behind a computer screen because he is himself a snowflake.  Take that weak crap elsewhere son.  


Ok meet me at the bike rack 3pm after school and we will settle this once and for all.. Jesus settle down .. again the only person claiming to be a tough guy is you. I am simply posting non threatening messages on a sports message board and here you come all crazy
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