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1  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Football / Re: P. Odom - Pro Day/NFL Draft Outlook on: April 20, 2017, 04:32:28 pm
I still believe that Odom has a really good shot at getting drafted. Like it was said before, there are not that many 6'8" 250 guys moving the way he does. In my opinion, he seemed faster than a 4.7. I think he would have had a better time if it was not for his surgery. He still may be recovering from that. One of the coaches also said that he caught the ball really well during his pro day which helped him out a lot. Maybe the contacts helped out after all Wink
2  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Football / Re: P. Odom - Pro Day/NFL Draft Outlook on: March 30, 2017, 04:45:11 pm
Saw videos of the positionals and asked around and it was said that Odom caught the ball very well and smoothly which is something he definitely needed to do. He also jumped a 33 vert i saw in one tweet. Pearcey also looked good in the positionals.
3  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Football / Re: P. Odom - Pro Day/NFL Draft Outlook on: March 27, 2017, 05:01:24 pm
I agree. I can't wait to see the results. I have been a fan of his and am a little disappointed in the outcome of his senior year. I also saw a tweet that said that he is going out to the Jets and Giants local days.
4  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Football / Re: P. Odom - Pro Day/NFL Draft Outlook on: March 27, 2017, 04:30:17 pm
Although this is a strong tight end class, at one point in time Odom was top 10 in the class. I have 2 scout friends that said that their teams have a 5th/6th round grade on him. Then I have a buddy who ate lunch with the Kansas City Chiefs QB coach and he said that he and a few other teams believe that if Odom put up the numbers that they think he will put up, he should be a 4th round pick. The only thing that hurts Odom is his lack of production but it is understood that he was not used at all. A solid pro day can help him over come that.
5  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Football / Re: Fordham v. Holy Cross at Yankee Stadium on: November 14, 2016, 05:38:21 pm
I think at this point in the season its safe to say that Odom just wasn't producing this year, for all we know he struggled in practice also... and for all we know the game-film showed something totally different than what we saw.

Even as astute and involved as a lot of the people who post around here are we will never have full visibility into the Odom disappearing act of 2016. What ride it has been.

Wish him the best in his post Fordham career!

I watched the game online and the commentators talked about their pregame interview with AB. They asked him why he benched Odom and he replied with "I am just trying to make him a better player" Then when they commented on his size and running ability he replied by saying there are a lot of 6'7" guys in the NFL who can catch. It is possible that Odom may have declined this year, but it is hard to say that when he was not even given opportunity to produce in the pass game, and when he did he produced. I think there must be something going on between the two of them. Why would you not use your NFL prospect, preseason all-american TE and then bench him??
6  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Football / Re: Colgate @ Fordham 11/5 on: November 09, 2016, 10:18:14 am
So, just so I'm clear on this: you are stating that you have been told, by someone who would actually know, that Odom is being invited to the combine and worked out as a defensive end?  Please confirm that.

Also, did your source state whether it was the national or regional combine?

Sorry for replying to things as I see them, but i have not been on the last few days. Apparently, he is on the radar for the National NFL combine. Preseason, he was the highest rated FCS tight end coming out this year and on the watch list for the Reese's Senior Bowl which is the number 1 All-star game. Out of all the seniors in the nation at all levels, he was in the top 200 and was graded out in the top 10 among all tight ends in all levels.
7  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Football / Re: Colgate @ Fordham 11/5 on: November 09, 2016, 09:42:31 am
You're not looking at "targeting" in the context of this offense.  Last year was a different situation.  There was a team full of very good receivers  Defenses were playing us differently.  It's not hard to throw a receiver off his game when you only have to focus on one. 

A team full of talented receivers last year? We had the same WRs last year that we do this year, so why is he not targeted the same as last year? not to say we do not have talented WRs because we do but if we are going to say they struggle to get open and get separation and still pass it to them, then why not pass it to a 6'8" target that has a bigger catch radius if we are claiming that Odom does not get open either.
8  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Football / Re: Colgate @ Fordham 11/5 on: November 09, 2016, 09:27:26 am
you keep saying that but you're ignoring the fact that he was our NUMBER ONE option last year. Tops in all receiving categories. This year the production hasn't been the same but its not because he'd dropping passes every game. He's not running as many route and he's not the #1 read when he is. He performs well with his limited opportunity in the passing game though.

I completely agree with that. Everyone forgets that he lead the team in all receiving categories last year. How can you say he is not a dominating factor knowing this? People blame everything on him dropping balls but he dropped passes as much as other receivers. This year he has rarely dropped anything. The only dropped pass from this season I can recall is the touchdown at Navy. Him knowing that when a pass comes his way, it may be the only one he might get for that game may be why he does not have a many drops.
9  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Football / Re: Colgate @ Fordham 11/5 on: November 07, 2016, 01:06:50 am
+1, Not sure what Navy game New Guy watched. 

There is a reason that he gets 1-3 passes thrown to him each game.

Great comeback win yesterday.

Look at all three of his catches. He could not be tackled that day.

go to 36:44, 1:49:32, and 1:52:00
10  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Football / Re: Colgate @ Fordham 11/5 on: November 06, 2016, 10:05:48 am
Although the article about Odom a few weeks ago stated that AB had a different focus with the offense, I think that there is some underlying reason as to why he does not use Odom. Odom started less games than not this season, according to a lot of places he is a legitimate draft pick that could go as high as the third round if he has a good pro day/go to combine, he is on the Reese's Senior Bowl watchlist, he is 6'8 and is a walking mismatch, last year he showed us that he has good TD production, he was a beast at Navy and could not be stopped with the ball in his hand, and Searight is the better blocker but not so much better where I would start him over Odom especially with what Odom can also create in the pass game. So why? Does anyone know how AB really feel about Odom. Can anyone recall them getting into it in past years when AB was the QB coach? Players like this do not just walk around everyday. He could have helped the team out a lot this year but instead our pass game struggled for most of the season.

Another note, Cantelli catch was amazing. Love that kid. He really showed up to play yesterday making those tough grabs.
11  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Football / Re: Colgate @ Fordham 11/5 on: November 05, 2016, 09:35:22 am
All eyes are on our passing game today. Colgate has a top 10 rush defense that shut down our running attack last year. If we can not get going in the air today then it will be a long day on Jack Coffey today. I know AB has a different use of Odom, but Colgate has smaller defensive backs than some of the other patriot league teams. It would be nice to see us use the mismatch he creates in the passing game. The only thing that seemed to have changed from our passing game last year to this year is how we use him. Maybe if we go back to actually using him that can open things up for other WRs and help make things run smoothly.
12  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Football / Re: Fordham @ Lehigh 10/29 PL Title at stake on: November 02, 2016, 08:35:05 pm
If you need any assurance from his hands, look at his highlight film on youtube from last season
13  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Football / Re: Fordham @ Lehigh 10/29 PL Title at stake on: November 02, 2016, 08:33:31 pm
Odom's catches have dropped from 3 catches a game last year to 2 catches a game this year.  As I said earlier would our offensive production go up or down with him not playing this position this year?  Would our offensive production have gone up or down last year with him not playing the position?  Would our defense have been better or worse this year with him playing on the defensive line or end this year?  Odom will be looked at in the NFL on the defensive side of the ball. 

I love all the arm chair QB's that immediately shoot down my theory. 

The facts are that we were humiliated last week on defense and that we are not making the playoffs this year.  If anyone else has a better solution then please share.  And the Redshirt idea is pure fantasy.  This is reality.

3 drops a game to 2 drops a game?Huh?
Odom dropped 2 passes last year in his FIRST game starting, which was also against an FBS opponent. Midseason last year Odom was probably our most reliable receiver. He definitely does not have that many drops this year because not only is he rarely targeted, but he rarely goes out on passes. This is clearly coming from someone who does not even watch the games. How can a kid who led the team in every receiving category last year have stone hands? He most certainly does not have the most drops this season. The only drop I could recall was the one he had at the end of the Navy game. We are obviously missing his production on offense. The offense looks nowhere near as smooth. He has been productive when he has gotten the ball the few times he did. He looked like a totally different player during the Navy game, then vs Lafayette he toasted a safety and took it to the house for 80 yards... That type of explosion is something that our offense had in the past that it is missing now from its passing game.
14  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Football / Odom Interview on: October 20, 2016, 11:42:40 pm
Well I guess the questions about Odom involvement in the pass game are answered
15  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Football / Re: Fordham @ Monmouth on: October 03, 2016, 02:49:06 pm
Great minds think alike Jimbo Grin Wink
16  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Football / Re: Fordham @ Monmouth on: October 03, 2016, 02:47:43 pm
I agree with many here that there is much work to be done, holes that need to be filled, but allow me to make some observations (not excuses);

-New coach: yes, he was a line coach before the promotion and knows the team, but this is a new responsibility, new focus and some adjustments will be made.  I think we need to give him a full year to really solidify his new responsibilities and gel with the whole team, not just a line.  We all remember what a good coach Clawsen was, but his first year as HC he was 1-10 if I remember.  Not a good comparison as he had a weak team to build on and we have a solid team this year, but my point is Breiner needs to settle in as HC.

-Injuries: some very good players are not playing right now that might have made a big difference in some games and all the difference at the 1 point loss at Monmouth.

-Monmouth:  They are a much better team than people give them credit for and can recruit payers that we can't.  They play in the Big South with some very good teams, they beat Lehigh (that some now say will win the PL this year...we shall see...) AT Lehigh while we lost by 1 point in OT AT Monmouth.  Keep in mind we outscored them 21-7 in the second half: just bad luck with the kick.  Too many people, myself included, thought we'd win this one but did not consider that they beat a very good Lehigh team at Lehigh.  Scott W86 and Old Coach picked saw what most of us didn't.

PL Parity: The three top teams: Lehigh, Colgate and Fordham all have lost games that many say shouldn't have been lost: Lehigh and Fordham to Monmouth and Colgate to Cornell (now there was a shocker).  So right now no team is an overwhelming favorite and anything can happen any given Saturday.  There is still time to fix what needs fixing and make a strong showing in league play; I would rather lose to Monmouth and learn from it then beat Lehigh and Colgate than have beaten the Jersey Shore Hawks but then lose in league play.

Just saying....

He wasn't a line coach. Before this he was the QB/pass coordinator under Moorhead
17  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Football / Re: Fordham @ Monmouth on: October 03, 2016, 02:42:52 am
Odom is a play maker. Other than the 3 drops he had in the first two games last year, what other drops did Odom have to call his hands "CONCRETE" ?? I thought maybe those games he just let his nerves get the best of him since it was his first 2 games starting. He might have dropped those two passes at Army but I watched Odom make some ridiculous catches like the 1 vs Lehigh last year when he caught an over the shoulder pass with 1 hand with a defender drapped all over him.
18  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Football / Re: Fordham @ Monmouth on: October 02, 2016, 06:45:49 pm
Odom?Huh? There are a lot of questions but that is a big one. I do not know if anyone noticed but he did not start against Monmouth. Both him and Searight both blocked well but they didn't really get passing opportunities like last year. Even though the offense looks similar, maybe Coach B just want his tight ends to be used to block and catch short routes like how we used Light a few years ago. Odom and Light are two completely different types of tight ends but maybe that's how they want to use them
19  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Football / Re: Penn @ Fordham Homecoming on: September 28, 2016, 11:09:47 am
Not knowing the context of stun in that sentence, I believe the only thing stunned or not working is your brain 85  Grin Grin
20  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Football / Re: Penn @ Fordham Homecoming on: September 28, 2016, 11:07:05 am

Do you mean stunted? What exactly does "stunned" mean in this context?  

Fordham anahilated Penn. The offense destroyed them. The only thing stunned or stunted is your brain.

Definition of stun-astonish or shock (someone) so that they are temporarily unable to react.
In the second half our offense could not do anything and Penn almost mounted a comeback. Our defense saved us because it was 24-17 and Penn almost tied the game and and the defense came up with a huge stop.
Like i said before, if you were not at the game to see you would not understand
21  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Football / Re: Penn @ Fordham Homecoming on: September 28, 2016, 10:44:49 am
It is just hard to understand because last year he had 3 or 4 games where he had at least 90 yards receiving in, and now we are 3 games in and I do not even think he has 90 yards on the season so far. He has received a lot of NFL attention, so much to the point where a alot of websites has him projected anywhere from late 3rd to early 5th. We have a NFL prospect on our team so why not use him?? It would be one thing if he was going out on routes and was being overthrown, dropping passes, or just not seen. He is not even going out on passes, instead he is blocking while our little receivers fight to get separation in their routes.
22  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Football / Re: Penn @ Fordham Homecoming on: September 28, 2016, 10:35:17 am
We are averaging 43.33 points per game on offense. That's not too shabby. Maybe let the coach make those decisions since he seems to know what he is doing?
We have our version of the old Washington Redskins Smurfs  with Caddle, Longhi and Solano and the touches are nicely distributed. If we get shut out or dont move the ball on offense then fine, complain about Odom, but right now we are putting up over 43 a game so I fail to see the focus on his targets. Cantelli is a heck of a good receiver too...

This must be coming from someone who has not watched any of our games so far this season. We only average 43 points a game because we put up 80+ on a really bad division 2 school. We only put up 16 versus Navy when our offense we clearly capable of putting up more, and our offense was stunned in the second half in the Penn game. So stunned that I thought that Penn might have came back to win. In the Navy game when we used Odom he was really effective and played a little more dominant with the ball in his hand than he did in the past.
Coach Pace praised how the tight ends make his job easy and how they have a standard in their room of staying off lists and doing all of the little things. I also have heard Coach Moorhead praise Odom about his patience and character so I doubt that it is a character issue.
The patriot league is loaded this year. Our conference ranking jumped from 6/7 to 4 I believe. We may be getting away with our lacking pass offense now but if we do not get it together soon, we may be in for a rough ride when we get to conference play. If we do not get things going in conference play and drop 1 too many games, this may be the first year we do not make the playoffs since 2012. An at large bid does not seem likely for us this year so we have to win the conference this year.
23  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Football / Re: Penn @ Fordham Homecoming on: September 27, 2016, 10:23:35 pm
I have always been an Odom fan, but I feel like we need to be realistic here.

He's a 6'8'' tight end with speed who can jump out of the gym.....and he plays at Fordham. He's a great kid and a huge asset for us, but there is a reason he is at a very good FCS school and not a very good FBS school.

Odom is at a really good FCS school and not FBS because he started playing football his senior year in high school. The game of football is still new to him. Although lat year he had those drops against Army, midseason-playoffs he became one of the more consistent guys. I also believe it was nerves more than anything because there is a reason he ended with the most catches, yards, and touchdowns last year. I was also at the Penn game and other than the terrible missed block in the 4th qt, he had a really good game blocking. I was actually shocked because I saw him drive the defensive end off the ball and on the ground twice in the first half. We won't see the explosiveness in our offense that we are used to until we use Odom more, make defenses pay attention to him, then let him be a decoy and open up stuff for the other guys like we saw last year. Chase is a great player but we cannot put it all on him the entire season. Eventually the pass game has to get going and I don't see that happening without Odom
24  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Football / Re: ECSU @ FORDHAM on: September 11, 2016, 01:53:23 pm
Perhaps because he has trouble catching the ball.

He only had those drops army but after that I can't recall him dropping the ball for the rest of last season.
25  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Football / Re: ECSU @ FORDHAM on: September 10, 2016, 07:51:41 pm
Why do they not like passing Odom the ball? Thought he deserved the ball more at Navy and thought he would cash in for sure this game but it didn't happen. Despite his inconsistent play last year, he is turning into an NFL prospect. There were scouts at this game, at Navy, and from what I hear they come to the practices a lot for him also
26  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Football / Re: Odom on top on: June 19, 2016, 11:24:02 pm
Obviously his ability to consistently catch the ball will be what determines whether he has an NFL career or not   PO is every bit of 6'8" and teams will be intrigued by his size. I also think he could prove more effective as a wideout than TE. Early in his FU career the coaches were a little frustrated because Odom wasn't "embracing the physical aspects of the game". At WR he'd be matched up with smaller CBs who usually don't tackle with the same ferocity of a safety or LB and he wouldn't be called on to block as much as he would at TE.

The next Harold Carmichael 😉

I think he improved his ability to catch the ball. I do not recall him dropping the ball after those 3 or 4 drops he had early on within the first 2 or 3 games. What is going to determine whether or not he has an NFL career is his blocking ability. That is something he has to really improve to catch serious eyes. Although he could dominate playing WR in the patriot league, he will not be able to in the pros. He is fast for a TE but not fast for a WR. He also is not quick enough.
Excited to see what the kid does this season. It is easy for everyone to be a Chase Edmonds fan but I like to go out and watch Odom and Longi
27  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Football / Odom on top on: June 14, 2016, 12:20:00 am
There were a few tweets out today ranking Odom as the number 1 TE in FCS football going into the 2016 season

Then there was also this on a bears website

If you look him up there are a lot of places that talk about him in comparison to other TEs that should be in the upcoming draft. Although some places say he lacks the speed to stretch a defense, which I completely disagree on, I think we can all agree if he wants a legit shot then he needs to improve his blocking.
28  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Football / Spring Game on: May 02, 2016, 02:30:10 pm
Was not able to attend the spring game but can someone update me??? How did the defense look? Anyone stand out on O?
29  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Football / Re: Garrick Mayweather Article on: April 28, 2016, 11:12:48 am
Very good read but also funny! Would have never thought the big 300+ pounder would be good at tennis. Very happy for the young man
30  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Football / Re: Spring Football 2016 on: April 28, 2016, 11:10:26 am
Took in practice yesterday. Usual array of walking wounded (hamstrings, hip pointers etc) as well as the guys coming off surgeries who were never in the Spring plans (Cantelli, Thorpe, Biggs,Odom,et al). All in all the coaches are pleased with how the Spring is progressive though I did hear a couple of unscheduled Saturday practices were called in order to get the team's attention. Anderson looked sharp with his passes and Chase appears in mid season form. It seems like he also added a few more pounds of muscle as his frame has filled out. Caddle and Longi are as quick and elusive as remembered but watch for another kid in their mold. Noah Nix missed last year but his speed and quickness grabbed my attention

Spent time visiting with Garrick and Stephen Hodge and both are doing well. Stephen mentioned that they've installed a new defense this year but I can't say for sure what has changed. The DBs were working a lot in press coverage and jamming WRs off the line so maybe we'll be adopting a more aggressive philosophy. Time will tell

Camp ends with a scrimmage this Saturday at 11 AM so if you're in the neighborhood stop by and see the '16 version of the Rams

Some of the guys who were never in the spring ball plans have participated in some of the drills in practice. Weir, Adeyeye, and Vaughn participate in some of the D-line drills, and Odom and Searight participate in some of the tight end drills and run routes with the teams. Odom wears pads and participated in other drills such as 7-on-7 and wears a green jersey 15 to indicate he is noncontact
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