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1  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Sengfelder to transfer on: March 24, 2017, 03:11:54 pm
Often no loyalty from coaches either.  Brad Underwood coaches 3 years at Stephen F. Austin, gets million dollar deal at Oklahoma State, leaves after 1 year for Illinois.

A little different. Depends what he wants to do when he stops playing hoops, but I get it.  I like Sengfelder, but I wish he'd stayed. I don't know his personal situation.  My personal situation is I have an irrationally intense attachment to some college basketball team.
2  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Recruiting Update on: March 24, 2017, 03:08:21 pm
Toppin and Johnson, well, looks like we are out there offering, and size to boot.  Hey guys, we have an opening.  Somewhat OT, I liked that clip of Ali Ton.  I had thought he was somewhat known for coaching bigs, due to Irvine's size, but he said a lot of that was the head coach and another assistant.  His specialty is points, etc.  Who he said he tells you aren't graded by points or assists, but wins.  Which should make most here happy, especially An Old Coach.  He seemed very personable. 
3  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Sengfelder to transfer on: March 24, 2017, 03:03:15 pm
Often no loyalty from coaches either.  Brad Underwood coaches 3 years at Stephen F. Austin, gets million dollar deal at Oklahoma State, leaves after 1 year for Illinois.
4  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Sengfelder to transfer on: March 24, 2017, 02:53:03 pm
Until any of these guys step up to the level of Sengfelder's play you can't use this logic. If If If. Slanina has upside but no one knows if he will equal Sengfelder. Plus many were banking on both starting anyway so its not a true replacement.

As for Bunting as you mentioned he was effective in limited minutes. Some players are like that. Useful but you can't necessarily use them in different capacity. Maybe JN knew that and used him like he did. Otherwise don't you think he may have seen more of the court given our lack of depth?

As far as Pekarek, IMO he needs to prove he should get significant playing time. Sure he was hurt this past year but prior to that and last year very inconsistent and IMO a weakness on defense.

Not sure how you can bank on Obama? Isn't the ex-President in his 50s?



Haha, damn spell check always turns my Ohams to Obama.

I think I had enough caveats to my post. I didn't say these guys were a lock to replace Sengfelder's production.  It's a loss.  Not like losing Rhoomes, but I was just looking at who we have coming back.  Or I guess I should say I hope we have coming back. Anyay, i named our prospective front-court returnees and there was something there in limited time, or some promise of development.  I get it, no sure thing.  
5  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Recruiting Update on: March 24, 2017, 10:30:03 am
Yes.  I don't see anything in twitter tying him to Fordham.  But he looks pretty good.
6  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Not sure how people think this was a good season on: March 24, 2017, 10:15:27 am
My tone was a bit flip.  Getting frustrated.  And Sengfelder leaving makes me thing I should hold back. Like I closed, we shall see.  Which I guess is just a truism.

Since this turned into a Zarko thread, I will add to it.  Not much to say statistically.  But since Neubauer knows advanced metrics and still played him he has those things coaches like that don't show in the stat sheet.  His usage rate was so comically low (not his minutes played but % of his court time he is involved on offense) you know he is doing little things coaches want done.  With JC, AA, Havsa now and hopefully Hicks, yes, his minutes should come down.  But he is clearly a useful player in the coach's eyes.  Averaged 20 minutes a game in conference last year averaging almost 3-1 assists to TOVs and 35.7 from 3 while hustling in JN's D system, so a glue guy for an 8-10 conference team which had guys like Rhoomes, Thomas, Chartouny, Sengfelder, Severe and Anderson to take shots.  Not that it was murderers row but a decent team, and every team needs guys who are willing to just do grunt work.

That said more dynamic players are needed.  You can't just have a team of hustle guys.  But if healthy he could be a contributor more or less. 
7  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Sengfelder to transfer on: March 24, 2017, 09:48:08 am
Well I should keep my mouth shut about all the experience we have returning.  A lot of turnover all across the country, coaches and players.

Is Pekarek going to be healthy?  At the very least without some 'croots front court depth is needed.  In limited minutes Bunting was actually about the best player in conference play this year by advanced metrics.  Slanina about equal to Sengfelder.  But neither at Sengfelder's usage rate (not to mention the much larger sample). Still, assuming those 2 around and Obama too, with a step up from him, may not be deadly.  Plus Pekarek.  Hopefully someone new.

8  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Not sure how people think this was a good season on: March 22, 2017, 09:17:18 pm
7-11, 13-19.. 

You are throwing out schedule rankings, injuries, young team, going from "horrific to just bad" and calling it improvement.  We're not the worst team in the A-10 anymore so that's a good thing.  Without an infusion of talent, I don't see what we have coming back as a basis for much improvement.  Every good team will work on improving their returning players.   That's not a difference maker.  Players have a ceiling on how much they can improve. We need better players for better results.  Everything else is the same "pie in the sky" we've heard for years.  Winning more games is the only improvement that matters

Lol, last year they won more than they had in almost a decade.  They lost the best player by far from that first in a decade team and Thomas and Severe and we're STILL better this year than any team from the prior 7 years.  Don't people get this?  The team was godawful for years.  Yes, this year was still a vast improvement and the overall trajectory is up. Useless going over it again.  Wallow if you want.  Next year will tell you more.  We will see.
9  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Fordhamfans NCAA Tournament Bracket on: March 19, 2017, 01:53:20 am
The fun is just beginning. Nova couldn't get past Round 2! Yikes!

And they got bounced in the round of 32 two years ago, too, by NC State. Tough to repeat. 

ACC taking it on the chin. Miami, Virginia and Florida State blown out.  Notre dame not that close against Press Virginia.  Wake and Virginia Tech gone round 1.  Leaves UNC, Duke and the 'Ville and second round just half over.
10  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Not sure how people think this was a good season on: March 19, 2017, 01:44:41 am
Non-conference strength of schedule rank was 250th this year, 350th last year.  Last year only 1 team's occ sos was worse.  Sacred Heart and Manhattan losses still brutal but a young team with no parts and Chartouny down or playing injured.  Took a while to find their ID.  Then had a great run, ended with 2 heartbreakers.  But 7 wins in conference is still more than they had in any season pre Neubauer since 2007, and 15 wins in his first 2 years more than the prior 7 years combined.  Let that sink in. You averaged 2 wins a year in conference the 7 years pre Neubauer.

Btw, the team also got out scored by more last year in conference despite 1 more win (-4.8 pg last year, -4.2 this year).  Put whatever grade you want on it. The team was still much better than any Pecora team and is much better shape for next year.  Hawkins improved during the year and had some good games but he's not as hard to replace as Rhoomes, much less replacing Rhoomes and Thomas.

If healthy I expect the team to be pretty good next year but we will get a better view as the season approaches as far as late arrivals,unexpected departures etc.
11  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Recruiting Update on: March 13, 2017, 03:56:14 pm
Yeah, thanks.

Wow is Molloy loaded.  247 ranks Brown 8th and Moore 80th in class of '18, Anthony 12 in '19 and the number 1 point guard. 
12  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Recruiting Update on: March 13, 2017, 12:25:29 pm
Very exciting game before a packed RHG.  Molloy has a big three of Cole Anthony, Kalid Moore and Moses Brown.  Anthony, son of Greg Anthony, and Moore are juniors.  Brown is a seven footer junior with offers from Duke and Kansas, among many others.  Hayes was undeterred.  Fordham recruit Joe Toussaint of Hayes was named MVP.  He had 12 points, 5 rebounds and 9 assists.  Toussaint is listed at 6'0" on VC, and 5'10" on the CH website.  IMO, he is closer to the latter.  He is a very good ball handler and passer, often penetrating and hitting open teammates.  Toussaint also has a decent outside shot and can knock down threes.  The Hayes players were fearless in taking it to the basket against Brown, who made some great blocks.  I was impressed by Toussaint's ability to get by defenders and with his defense.  He plays with a high motor and was a steadying hand when Hayes needed it.

A write up of the game can be found at the link below, along with video of the 4Q taken by an assistant on the Hayes bench.  Touissant is #2 for the Cardinals.  It was one of the best HS games I have been to in a long time.  Anthony could play at the college level now.  Brown too, but will probably prep to bulk up.  Touissant should be back next year.  I believe game  was on MSG Varsity, which my cable company does not carry.          
https://nychoops.rivals.com/news/hayes-shocks-molloy-wins-chsaa-aa-championship

A write up of the Molloy's semifinal one point win over Stepinac and Fordham recruit Adrian Griffin can be found at the link below.  I was not at the game, but it too sounded like a thriller.
https://nychoops.rivals.com/news/molloy-edges-stepinac-faces-hayes-in-chsaa-city-chip

I saw Fordham coaches Ali T and Mike D at the game.  Smiley  No one from Duke or Kansas.  Roll Eyes   


It's Alan Griffin.  Adrian was his dad.  Toussaint is ranked 116th by 247 sports and a 4 star but other raters don't have him on their radar yet.   247 doesn't rate Griffin.  Verbal Commits has him and Toussaint as 2 stars.  Seems like both of them flew under the radar a bit and may be getting late interest.
13  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Fordham is only A-10 Team to go 2-0 against A-10 Finalists VCU & Rhode Island on: March 13, 2017, 12:11:06 pm
Me too! Hopefully we will have more double digit wins next season. I am amazed with all of the great stats that you provide. You provide stats that I didn't even know exist. What you say in all of your posts is right on! Go Rams!!!

You can find advanced stats at sports reference's college basketball section.  Here is their Fordham page:

http://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/schools/fordham/2017.html

And you can get rankings by all sorts of metrics at teamrankings, like this ranking of college teams by opponent turnovers per offensive play:

https://www.teamrankings.com/ncaa-basketball/stat/opponent-turnover-pct

14  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Fordham is only A-10 Team to go 2-0 against A-10 Finalists VCU & Rhode Island on: March 12, 2017, 04:03:10 pm
Enjoy your posts, too.  I only meant decent for Chartouny as far as rebounding (overall he's very good).  And maybe even that is unfair.  He's a good rebounder for a guard.  Better last year, when he was actually 11th in conference in defensive rebounding % (higher than Moore last year, or Gregg or Bembry).  He slipped slightly this year, and he has a low offensive rebounding % since he is outside so much in Fordham's preferred style and recovering on D.

Overall I'd say he is a very good player.  His injury earlier held him back a tad, but he was 17th in the league in Player Efficiency Rating, 20th in win shares, 15th in Box +/-.  4th in assist%, 1st in steal%.  Upped is 3% from .315 last year to .382 (and .390 in conference, whereas lst year he was at .245, oof).

One last step is cut down on some TOs, but you are correct, he is a damn fine player. 

I'm optimistic as well.  Of course, we won 3 bang bang games as well, Saint Joe's II, UMass and VCU.  So 3-5 in those types, and you aren't going to win all of them.  Although you rarely see blown games quite like those last 2, blowing a 19 point lead AND several late leads against GW, including the game ending 3 point shot foul with under a second left, and blowing a 7 point lead with 36 seconds left.  Sacred Heart and Duquesne they shouldn't have even been in that spot.  Manhattan either.  So, gotta learn to finish, but also not be in those spots.  I liked the double digit wins!
15  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Fordham is only A-10 Team to go 2-0 against A-10 Finalists VCU & Rhode Island on: March 12, 2017, 12:30:45 pm
In OOC we only out rebounded an opponent twice, tied once.  In conference we did it 6 times and tied once. Once only out boarded by one.  Duquesne 1 we got crushed on the boards.  After that much better until La Salle II and especially against GM in the A-10 tourney. 

Bad beginning and frustrating ending.  But that 7-5 run in the middle of the conference schedule was the best stretch of playing in a decade in conference. And the first half run against GW was the master plan to a T.  It was quite a sight.  Too bad they couldn't finish it off even with Havsa heroics, but a lot to build on and certainly areas to improve on.
16  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Fordham is only A-10 Team to go 2-0 against A-10 Finalists VCU & Rhode Island on: March 12, 2017, 12:14:27 pm
Bunting would be 3rd in conference in offensive rebounding % if he qualified.  Ohams would be 7th in d rebounding%.  Overall 9th and 10th.  Their style of play isn't conducive to great rebounding but they can certainly improve, as even Coach Neubauer said after the George Mason game. Sengfelder boarded more as a freshman.  His o rebounding % plummeted because they have him on the perimeter on o.  That worked well last year as he shot the 3 very well and Rhoomes was down low. This year his 3 rate sank, especially in conference play. But his d rebounding % was ok.

We picked up the rebounding after the first Duquesne game but it came back at times, certainly against GM.

With Slanina healthy, Cs, and more Ohams and Bunting, we have a chance to improve. JC is decent for a guard, albeit no Marquise Moore.
17  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Recruiting Update on: March 12, 2017, 11:51:02 am
Alan Griffin played at Rose Hill last week. Stepinac beat Christ the King in the playoffs.  Then lost to Molloy.  He didn't have a big scoring game in the win but he had a bunch of steals. He's usually their leading scorer. 

Hope he liked his visit.
18  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Moving forward 2017 on: March 11, 2017, 09:50:04 am
Rich, I am not going to get in a pissing match with you on this kid.  We have a need on this team.  You, obviously, don't know this player, but would rather shoot the messenger.  One of our fellow higher level Conf. rivals sees his talent so therefore we will see him next year on the opposite side of the court and you can evaluate him then.  

There may be some other reason they aren't interested than just talent or academics.  But I have no idea. He has good offers.  Good luck to him.
19  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Moving forward 2017-18 on: March 11, 2017, 09:42:13 am
You, obviously, know zero about NCAA basketball.  Why would he be at JUCO when he could have had a full ride at Fordham 2 years ago?  I will leave that one to you to answer.  Also, TP made a lot of offers in his sunset year.....many of those "offers" were rejected by JN when he came on board.


Just saying the 247 web site said Fordham offered him.  

Ok I should have read ahead.  Didn't qualify.  Move on.
20  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Fordham George Mason Pre/In/Post Game Thread Thursday 6 pm NBCSN on: March 11, 2017, 06:12:37 am
Guys I know we missed free throws but how many chippies did we miss 7? 8? I mean just make 2 of them and we win.  So sad the kids played their hearts out and we should have won that game.  I am wondering who do we have coming in to replace Hawkins? We need a shooter and more than anything a re-bounder.

I guess we are out of grad students from JN's old job.  Hopefully Ali Ton is combing the globe.  Perhaps a giant Uzbek.  Maybe we don't hear much because he doesn't want word to get out and have other offers come pouring in.  Wink
21  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Moving forward 2017-18 on: March 11, 2017, 06:04:38 am
I agree, my daughter knows him well.  I am not convinced about our recruiting decisions.  Nothing last year, and a missed opportunity on this one.

Fordham offered Rodriguez when he was a high school senior in Sparta, NJ, apparently, recruiting class of 2015.  According to 247.  He also has offers from Wichita St., etc.  Seems like a decent juco but why all this inside baseball stuff if he or we isn't interested.  Even if you grab a top 100 recruit the other 99 go somewhere else. 
22  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Moving forward 2017-18 on: March 11, 2017, 05:38:10 am
Drunkle - as you point out, AA and CS regressed, so improvement is not a given.  In fact, some players may get worse.

More importantly, as RamFan78 notes, we finished 13-19.  2 of those wins came on last second heroics, or we'd be staring at a 20-loss season!  We need a lot more than marginal improvements - we need big steps to be taken by multiple players.

CS is better than he was as a freshman, slightly. The regression came last year.  His PER was lower because he wasn't used down low so his rebounding changed.  AA is also better than he was as a freshman.  Growth isn't always linear but the point is players improve from their first year at the level.  Some adapt right away, others take time.  Of course it is a cherry picked group.  The ones who get better play.  And sometimes they get better because they play.  And of course they need new players.  Eventually these guys will all leave.  If you want better players to come, show them you can win and develope players.
23  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Moving forward 2017-18 on: March 10, 2017, 06:05:53 pm
Like Saint Joe's reloaded?

Davidson had a nice win today but they slumped a bit and lose more players.  Things change. Of course the team needs players. It's a constant grind. 
24  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Moving forward 2017-18 on: March 10, 2017, 05:35:15 pm
Not everything is based on mathematical formulas either. Some times the naked eye is the best measure of how one performs. The one measure you left out is 13-19 our record which was worse than last year. I am not trying to be a downer, in fact I said we got a lot more out of this group than anyone thought coming out of the OOC but to think there is going to be this big improvement next year because we have a lot of players coming back and the expectation is they will all improve is a recipe for failure. Some of the perennial leaders of the A10 will restack as always and some of the teams we beat this year that are normally higher up in the standings (St Joe's, UMass) will rebound as well. If we want to keep up with everyone we need more talent plain and simple.

The metric isn't perfect but at least you are comparing apples to apples.  Players as a general rule improve as they gain experience.  They were actually out scored by more last year in conference but had one more win.  And I know overall they were better last year.  But they lost 2 of their best players and 3 of their top 6.  All 3 of whom, as the whole point of this exercise was meant to show, improved during their careers.  A lot.  Hence why they were easily better last year than in 2013, 14 or 15. 17-14 is better than 10-21. So is 13-19 despite significant turnover. Not sugar coating it.  13-19 is disappointing.  Still the team is better than it was and better than it was earlier this year.  And it doesn't take any higher analytics to suggest teams with returning vets usually improve in college ball.  The numbers just back up the adage.
25  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Moving forward 2017-18 on: March 10, 2017, 04:08:59 pm
  We need to replace Hawkins' team-leading 14 PPG and just about a tie at 4.9 RPG.  AA is a 5th year senior, how much better can he become?  CS will be a senior who may have regressed in certain areas this season, so that's also a possibility.  JC shot 42%, 38% from 3, was # 1/2 in steals nationwide, averaged over 4 RPG, how much more do you expect?  He can and should improve his A/T ratio.  I do not expect anything from Pekarek.  I think Bunting, Ohams, and Havsa are limited offensively.  I disagree completely with you - I do not think one of the things that changes rapidly is the performance of veteran returnees  what does change rapidly is the contribution from newcomers.  I think if we are much better offensively, it will be because of the newcomers.    

What changes is usually 1st year guys becoming vets.  PER (player efficiency rating) is an imperfect stat; it rewards big men over smaller guys to an extent.  But it a good proxy for player improvement, cutting down TOs, improving shot selection or just shooting, etc.

Anderson as freshman was at 7.9.  This year 12.4 (slight regression from soph). 

Sengfelder was at 15.4.  he came in fully formed pretty much.  He slumped lat year to 13.7.  This year 15.7, so despite shooting worse from 3 an improvement from last year.  The change in the way he was used effected this, since his rebound rate fell from freshman year, when he was a low post player.

Bunting was at 10.8 last year, 15.6 this year.

Chartouny 18.2 last year, 19.6 this year.

What this suggests is that the biggest jump is from freshman to soph or junior.

Ohams PER was 7.0.  But in conference he was at 9.6, so his overall is propped up by his in conference PER, where he got the lion's share of his playing time.  he improved throughout the year.

Havsa 9.4 overall, 10.9 in conference, again overall brought up by the lion's share of PT being in conference, where he was better against stronger comp.

Slanina 14.9 overall, 15.3 in conference. 

Overall, the team's play improved through the year,  the same as it did last year, OOC wins notwithstanding.  Pekarek improved last year.  He was far worse this year but evidently hurt.

Rhoomes, Thomas and Severe all were much better in their last Fordham year than their first.  Thomas's per went from 12 to 18, up by 50% from frosh to senior. Rhoomes doubled from 13 to 26 over 4 years, and even made a big leap from junior to senior year.  This isn't unheard of at all. Brice Johnson did it last year, Buddy Hield, just to name well-know national players.  UNC also lost its 2 best players yet again won ACC, even with only small freshman contributions (mostly back-up center Tony Bradley). Their seniors and juniors improved.  Meeks (sr) went from 23.2 to 27 in PER.  Berry (jr) 19.3 to 21.1.  Pinson (jr) 14.1 to 17.8.  Justin Jackson (jr) 18.9 to 21.4 and ACC Player of the year.  Shot under 30% from 3 last year up to 38.2.  Big jumps for sophs Luke Maye 10.6 to 17.5.  Kenny Williams 8.4 to 13.1.  Now I'd say UNC is very good at coaching up players but this isn't all that unusual, and the Fordham examples above suggest typical, although overall level is different.

If Sengfelder shot 3s like his junior year, rebounded like his freshman year, and hit 2s like this year, well over 60%, his numbers would jump.  Not expecting all that, but just showing how a jump of some degree is feasible even for a senior.  Chartouny this year was dragged down by injuries a bit.  He certainly could stand to improve his decision making.  AA is a bit of an enigma.  He shot the 3 ball very well in conference this year and has immense talent physically, made some huge winning shots.  The ankle injury may have hampered him a bit, but more between the ears than anything.

The real big improvements will likely come from Ohams, Havsa and/or Slanina.

I don't think it takes as much as people think to improve.  Having a cohesive returning group improves the team.  Incoming talent is great, especially for after next year, and no doubt someone really good would help, and the team needs depth.  You hope for more health this year but someone always gets hurt.  I think an improvement in cutting down TOs will help a lot.  Small improvement in other areas.  The D is well on its way to elite status, as shown by the 3 game stretch including the Rhode Island win, clamping down on Davidson game 1, etc.  Ohams is already very good on that end as a freshman.   

I think I underestimated Hawkins.  He improved a lot as the season went on.  He wasn't hyper efficient because he had to get off shots when others on the team wouldn't or couldn't.  For a one year guy he really won me over and I'll hold him in high regard.  But even his points aren't all that hard to replace.  He wasn't a hyper efficient scorer and just spreading around his shots to the returnees alone would mostly balance out his departure. You hope Hicks adds something (although we'd be fairly guard heavy), and Slanina can come back healthy and build on this year.

So those are reasons to assume that the players will, for the most part, improve, and the team improve next year.  We are talking averages.  Not everything is linear.   
26  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Fordham George Mason Pre/In/Post Game Thread Thursday 6 pm NBCSN on: March 10, 2017, 01:21:50 pm
eFG% on 28 attempts is meaningless.  A 50% eFG% would probably put him top 10 in the NBA, so that's very likely to come down significantly.  It also doesn't factor in assists or defense.  

Of course, cumulative statistics do not measure consistency, which is vital in college ball, more so at our level.  



Yeah, I know it is a very small sample.  Judging by the eye test, kid has decent form, and a good passer.  I like him on offense and he seems to have the steal thing down a bit, too.  Needs improvement and we will see what we get with a larger sample size next year.     
27  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Moving forward 2017-18 on: March 10, 2017, 01:19:40 pm
Hmmm. You don;t expect Chartouny, Sengfelder, AA, Havsa, Chuba, Slanina, or even Bunting or Pek to improve on offense. You think they are all what they are? I guess the guys should just relax until next year. No use putting work in since they can't get any better.

You said it yourself. Every year is year to year in CB. Things change rapidly including performance of returnees. I expect us to be much better on offense next year. Partly because our additions but more because guys improve. One area where I think we will be much better is with Ball security. We turned it over waaay too much this year. Increased mins from Havsa will help there.

I think they will improve.  Yes, fewer TOs would help.  Healthy Slanina, too.  Pieces are there. In conference AA shot 37.8% from, 3, Chartouny 39%, Havsa 46.7% (but that's a small sample and I doubt he's that good).  Sengfelder's 3 really fell back from last year.  He took a lot more. His career number is 35% and that sounds right for him.  Slanina and Sengfelder were at .611 and .622 from 2 in conference.  Even Bunting at .625.  A lot of this is putbacks and dunks, but there are workable pieces.  A healthy Slanina would help.  Chuba needs to pick it up some and I think he will, even if D stopper and rebounder is more his game.  Hopefully Hicks adds something, but we need inside scoring.

I keep thinking incremental improvements in shooting, getting to the line, rebounding, and major improvements in ballhandling, and the team will be much improved.  As we saw in many games this year, both wins and losses, basketball can be a close run thing, 1 fewer foul, 1 more opponent foul, 1 more board, 1 fewer turnover, 1 more shot made, 1 more defended, is the difference between wins and losses.  Sometimes just one of them. But if you get those slight improvements in many areas, you make it less about 1 possession games hopefully anyway, and Fordham won some of those, too.  
28  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Fordham George Mason Pre/In/Post Game Thread Thursday 6 pm NBCSN on: March 10, 2017, 12:53:25 pm
FWIW, one of last night's refs, Mark Schnur, also called the Richmond game when JN got T'd up a few weeks ago. 

Ah, good one.  I thought he needed to get T'd up last night but maybe it would have backfired. 
29  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Moving forward 2017-18 on: March 10, 2017, 12:52:24 pm
Harvard and ETU play at Rose Hill next year. Two good teams. Heard Saint John's not coming to the Bronx and may drop us from the schedule. 

ETSU loses 4 of 5 starters, top scorer Cromer among them, and Mesquera-Perrea, the big transfer from Indiana.  Harvard loses Siyani Chambers, but their 2 high scorers this year were frosh.  They should be good.  Beatable but good.   
30  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Fordham George Mason Pre/In/Post Game Thread Thursday 6 pm NBCSN on: March 10, 2017, 12:37:04 pm
I think what you are seeing with Havsa is a guy who feels he needs to cede to the older guys, but when pressed he seems to deliver. Last night you could see it as drunkle described and it was also evident against GW. Two of the most crushing defeats, so maybe we don't want him to deliver...kidding of course.

Chartouny and Anderson are older guards who handle the ball a lot, so yes, his assist totals won't be amazing (and look who he is passing to!).
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