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1  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Starting Line Up '17-18' on: Yesterday at 03:31:47 pm
I think we were all pretty excited about Tavares early last season... then he sprained his ankle, or something, at MSG and everything fell apart. Add the "Tavares hype machine" poster and his declined play into the mix and people (rightfully so) soured on him.

He'll have a lot to prove this season, but I think the talent and ability is there. Sometimes maturity takes longer for certain athletes and young men.

And Rich has been making a good point recently - you need to develop players in this league. Maybe we'll all be happily surprised this season.

He started off fairly well, hitting 11-19 from 3 before the Rutgers game (where he got injured).  He couldn't convert inside, but his True Shooting % was 53.7% up to that game, which isn't bad.  Averaging about 8 ppg and 1.5 steals per game in about 20 minutes per. He was much worse in conference, and yeah, I remember his booster who came on here.  Hopefully he's matured, and it sounds like all the right people think so.   

BTW, here's the projection for this season from a kinda kenpom lite.  Doesn't have anything on Evans, Hicks or Raut.  Projection 12-18, 6-12.  I'll go 18-12, 10-8.

http://www.barttorvik.com/team.php?team=Fordham&year=2018
 
2  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Starting Line Up '17-18' on: Yesterday at 02:46:16 pm
Based on the Will Tavares comments from Neubauer new prediction:

Chartouny
Evans
Tavares
Ohams
Slanina

Bench

Havsa
Hicks
Bunting
Pekarek
Raut

Yeah, everyone has been talking him up.  It could be that the other starting guard is Hicks over Evans.  Will said Hicks was one of their best on-ball defenders, along with himself.  Although maybe he'll be bench 3 and D.

I suspect all these guys will play a lot.  And I guess Zarko is deep bench.  Be nice to have some depth.
3  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: A-10 Media Day Tomorrow to include Interview with Coach Neubauer on: Yesterday at 02:39:44 pm
Very little discussion of basketball teams or the upcoming season. Rich pretty much said it all about the Fordham comments. Coach mentioned Chartouney a couple of times and said the team had to value the ball a lot more than they have over the last 2 years. GO RAMS.

Amen.  That's a huge thing, given our game is predicated on the forced turnovers giving us an effective possession advantage.  Gotta treat our own like gold. 
4  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: A-10 Media Day Tomorrow to include Interview with Coach Neubauer on: Yesterday at 02:36:53 pm
Neubauer  just said that Will Tavares has improved and is going to have a special year.





Man, Tavares is really getting shout outs all over.  Brenton said it during his interview with Will, Joe said it when Brenton spoke to him, now Neubauer.  And he did look like he put a lot of work in physically this summer when you saw the videos they put up on twitter.  My interest is piqued.  Maybe Will can bust out this year like Javontae did when he was a junior at Eastern Kentucky. There is actually a lot of similarity in the numbers between Hawkins soph year at South Florida and Tavares' numbers last year (similar PER and eFG%).  Just something to hope for.  Regardless, a big step up from him into scoring wing would be great.  We'll see.
5  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Fordham New team podcast on: October 13, 2017, 10:46:03 am
Biggest take aways: wants to play with guys who want to be here and Havsa running the point.

Yup. Interesting comment about guys buying into the system.  Also Havsa running the point and Joe evidently at off-guard, and even at forward.  It seems like first unit will include Tavares, since Joe specifically mentioned how much better he got (just like Brenton did during his interview with Will).  Joe also gives a shout out to guys we have back who know what it takes to win, while acknowledging it wasn't a great season.  I take that to mean we have guys who played in some wins when pressed into service, guys that did buy in.

The 3 who are gone, Hawkins, Sengfelder and Anderson, sure, that's a lot of points, but also a lot of shots.  When healthy, Prokop went for 15 and 5 in the win against St. Joe's, 13 and 7 against UMass, 10 and 8 against Davidson.  Will Tavares went for 10 and 5 in the St. Joe's win.  Havsa played 20 minutes with 10 points in the Dukes win, had 12 and nearly saved the GW game.  Bunting played 24 minutes and had 7 boards against St. Louis.  He nailed the free throws in OT against St. Joe's.  Chuba had 10 boards, 2 steals and a block in the VCU win.  Pekarek lit up the Bonnies in the OT loss in 2016 and played big minutes in the stretch run.

Sure, i am cherry picking highlights.  But look at a late loss against LaSalle.  Hawkins didn't play.  Prokop was out.  Sengfelder went 2-9, Anderson 1-11.  Chuba kept us in early, 12/7 with 2 blocks in 23 minutes (and only 2 fouls).  JC, Will, Havsa and Ohams played a ton of minutes and were better than Anderson and Sengfelder.    I think those guys improving and adding minutes and shots, and Evans, Hicks and Raut, will more than make up for the losses, if they are all buying in.  Like the article on the Warriors Peter posted, if everyone gets to touch the ball, shooters, passers, etc., and there's movement, the whole can beat the sum of the parts.  And the parts don't look too bad.    And I like the fact the team picked it up in the second half each year.  In 2016 from 3-9 in conference we closed out 5-1.  In 2017 after the poor OOC we start 0-3 in conference and things are spiraling out, then we go on a 7-5 conference run with some huge wins.

Oh well, pre-season.  Hope springs eternal.
6  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Fordham New team podcast on: October 09, 2017, 06:33:35 pm
These interviews are fun to hear.  We get some information and a chance to help a Fordham student pursue his career. I like a guy who puts himself out there and Brenton is doing that. Good for him 

Agreed. And a great service to the fans as it's info about the players and their mindset that I don't usually hear. 
7  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Fordham New team podcast on: October 09, 2017, 04:38:56 pm
Maybe it isn't his place to say it, but considering his playing time the coaches must have thought his D was pretty good.  Fifth on the team in minutes played and per game, and after getting out of the gate pretty well on offense he struggled.  I think it's good he recognizes it was a disappointing season and appears to be working to improve.  From the footage posted on twitter this summer it did seem he was improving his body.  We will see if his play steps up.  We can use his size and athleticism at the wing.

And it does seem that Brenton agrees he is much improved on both ends, and the game at this level is slowing down for him. This is all just practice. When the rubber hits the road in games the key will be maintaining through adversity.  When the first shots don't necessarily go down.
8  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Fordham New team podcast on: October 09, 2017, 04:05:07 pm
The season hasnít even started yet.  Enough.  Help Petty with his podcast and stop the garbage.   As usual I am excited for the season. Enjoy the build up because we know it can go sideways fast.

Maybe it isn't his place to say it, but considering his playing time the coaches must have thought his D was pretty good.  Fifth on the team in minutes played and per game, and after getting out of the gate pretty well on offense he struggled.  I think it's good he recognizes it was a disappointing season and appears to be working to improve.  From the footage posted on twitter this summer it did seem he was improving his body.  We will see if his play steps up.  We can use his size and athleticism at the wing.
9  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Recruiting Update on: October 02, 2017, 12:46:08 pm
Patrick School 2020 Wing Caleb "CJ" Wilcher of @PSACardinals was offered by #Fordham today
@aslater247



Wilcher picked up an offer from Minnesota in September. Looks like we are spotting guys early.  Now Pitino's kid wants him (I read some rumors about him being an apple that may not have fallen too far from the tree).  Wilcher is from Plainfield, NJ.  Was just reading about The Plainfield Riot, which was 50 years ago this past summer.  I'd never heard of it. Kinda gets lost in the bigger anniversaries like Newark, etc.

Anyway, really building up some momentum, here.  As I mentioned in the Chris Austin thread, he played for LA Rockfish this summer.  Myles Johnson played for them, the big guy we lost out to Rutgers on, as did Fletcher Tynen, another 2018 target.  It seems like our staff has been laying the groundwork, building a network, and it is starting to pay off.     
10  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Chris Austin 2018 6-4 SG commits on: October 02, 2017, 12:35:28 pm
Hoping this kids is a late bloomer.  We offered him back in July after the Vegas tournaments where he seemed to have a great week.  He was on a list of the top 10 players from HOF basketball writer Frank Burlison's evaluation that week, which included a list of some pretty impressive players
https://www.prephoops.com/2017/07/wrap-las-vegas-franks-top-10/

Thanks for that link.  So he plays for the LA Rockfish.  Of note, so does Fletcher Tynen, another Fordham 2018 target.  Myles Johnson also played for them, who ended up choosing Rutgers over Fordham and Hawaii.  Tynen also has an offer from Hawaii among others. 
11  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Chris Austin 2018 6-4 SG commits on: October 02, 2017, 12:07:42 pm
13-51 from 3 as a junior.  Work on that jumper.  Although it looks like we will have some shooters anyway next year.  Honor looks really good from deep (as well as an ability to penetrate and use his strength inside), Hicks (if he comes back), Evans, Portley.  Austin looks like he has good form so hopefully he improves.  Havsa and Gazi hopefully improve (despite Ege's 4-4 showing late against GW).

Gonna need some bigs after next year since Bunting, Slanina and Pekarek will all be gone.

Still, great to see us adding guys from all over the country.  Austin is another nice get.  Hicks may have helped because he's likewise from Pasadena (albeit a different high school).  So getting guys from The Bronx (Chuba), Florida, California, Texas.  Even Tavares and Slanina were playing juco in Queens and manhattan.  Oughta calm down the thought Fordham is only getting Turks, Czechs and guys from the Balkans.   Not that there's anything wrong with that. Wink

Getting psyched for this year and it really looks like this staff is building a solid foundation for sustained success.   
12  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Fordham New team podcast on: September 29, 2017, 10:38:49 am
Ha, I think Pekarek could aim a little higher than Steve Novak!  Although I'll take it if he can hit 46% from 3 like Novak did for his college career.  And I used to love when he'd do the discount double check championship belt celebration after a 3 a la Aaron Rodgers.  Seems like forever ago but those 2013 Knicks weren't too bad, eh?

Anyway, nice interviews so far.  Love to hear about the defensive intensity. Man those practices must be brutal.  But love even more hearing about the outside shooting.  Bombs away, dudes.  If we get some guys nailing high 30s and 40%+ from 3 this year I think y'all will prove the A-10 prognosticators wrong.
13  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Recruiting Update on: September 26, 2017, 04:18:10 pm

Maybe the fact that we're a Nike school has been scaring players away Wink

Ha.  Best line I've read so far is at least Sean Miller finally made a final 4.
14  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Recruiting Update on: September 26, 2017, 03:21:02 pm
Mostly off topic, but pretty big news about fraud indictment of several college basketball assistant coaches (Chuck Person being one), sneaker reps and financial advisors.  Part of it looks like Bruce Bowen, a top 20 recruit, was paid $ 100k to go to Louisville and promise to sign with Adidas when he got to NBA etc.  Looks like a Louisville assistant was in on it for a kickback.  Merl Code, a rep for Nike who just left for Adidas, is named.  So likely this happened at Adidas too.  An Oklahoma State and USC assistant coach named too, some others.

Doesn't look like the Louisville qua Louisville itself knew.  Not sure about Pitino.  But he's gone.  They are already on probation.  May be a hammer blow for them.

To tie this in to Fordham recruiting, if this is the tip of the iceberg in the whole sneaker recruiting wars going on for 20 years and it all blows up, may start being a more even playing field for the mid-majors. 

Sorry if this doesn't belong and delete it if it doesn't.  My take on rambacker's posts is I don't mind hearing who we are offering, who we may be looking at, etc.  Most schools only get a fraction of who they offer.  A list of our offers is usually up to date at Verbal Commits.
15  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Recruiting Update on: September 19, 2017, 02:59:45 pm
6' 8" Class of 2018 PF Josh Alexander from Iona Prep in NY has committed to American.

Not exactly a powerhouse, but most of the schools recruiting him were low-majors, ivies, etc.
16  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Recruiting Update on: September 11, 2017, 10:53:28 am
JN tweeted something cryptic today to the effect that weekends like these are how programs are made - any idea what he's happy about?

Well, the NCAA moved up when Fall practice can start a few years ago, but that's not until later in September.  Maybe they had some team-building type thing, like they all watched Hoosiers or something. Smiley  Last week he tweeted some pics of him and Martina with his parents.  He seems in good spirits.  Last year's off-season may have been a little rougher for him, personally.
17  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Recruiting Update on: August 30, 2017, 12:44:28 pm
Fordham has offered 6' 3" PG Alejandro Vasquez from John Bowne High School in NYC. He is Class of 2019 and has also been offered by UMass and Iona.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Hd_zMmO2HE



That's 16 offers for next year (4 points, 4 shooting guards, 3 wings, 3 power forwards and 1 center), 3 for 2019 so far, and 1 for 2020.  We seem pretty active.

Vasquez is pretty good.  Averaged over 20 a game, and had 37 in John Bowne's Queens PSAL championship win.  He made 34% from 3 on the year, 55% from 2, and in the championship game when he wasn't hitting from outside he used his burly frame to get inside:

   http://www.news12varsity.com/brooklyn-bronx/john-bowne-captures-first-psal-queens-borough-title-1.1850533
18  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Starting Line Up '17-18' on: August 30, 2017, 12:29:13 pm
Really like the composition of the roster. 11 players who can contribute and 2 sit out transfers. I am not concerned about replacing the scoring. Our offense stunk last year. Honestly I don't know how we could possibly be worse. I think we will shoot the ball much better this year, take care of the ball better, and be much more efficient.

Defensively we will need to replace AA but the loss of Sengfelder is a net positive. Foul trouble for Slanina and Chuba is a concern but as we saw last JN is a master of getting as many mins as possible out of guys in foul trouble,

For me the only starters I would put in pen are JC and PS as well as probably Chuba,.

The other two guards/wings is an open competition at this point I imagine between Hicks, Havsa, Evans, Taveras, and Pekarek. If I had to bet I would say it would be Hicks and Havsa but honestly it doesn;t really matter as this will all sort itself out as the we move into the preseason and OOC schedule.

Hawkins and AA were a little more able to create on their own.  That said Slanina and Chartouny were actually 2nd and 3rd in points per 40 in conference.  Chartouny had the best 3 point % on the team.  Slanina, Bunting and Havsa were 3 of the top 4 in effective FG% in conference. Admittedly the latter 2 in small samples.

Simply having Slanina and Chartouny take on more scoring load will make up for a lot of what was lost.  Slnaina shot over 60% from 2.  Hopefully growth from Chuba and Havsa, and something from Hicks and Evans.    On balance I agree, not so worried about replacing scoring.  Not sure how strong the offense will be but last year's was not a high bar to say the least.  Sengfelder shot much worse from 3 last year and he took a ton, so hopefully the guards will more than make up for that.  Even Taveras wasn't bad from 3 until he hurt his knee against Rutgers (he was 11-19 from 3 until then, abysmal thereafter).

I'm with you.  I like the composition of the roster.  If I had to ask for anything it would be more depth on the interior.  Say, an 18 year old Bob Lanier.  Seriously, one more big would help with the foul propensity (and inevitable injuries).  But that's just a wish and I think we're good to go anyway.  And yes, with all these guards we better be able to take care of the ball.   
19  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Starting Line Up '17-18' on: August 29, 2017, 10:27:18 am
Gazi (DePaul transfer) is also on the roster

Now they have to work on those bios.  Wink

I was a little disappointed that Havsa and Chartouny didn't do all that well in international ball this year.  I suppose a lot of those guys play together year round.  It doesn't mean anything but they played better in DI last year than they did in the games this summer.

Overall there's enough to work with.  Hopefully healthier this year.  Psyched to see what Evans and Hicks can bring to the table and if we see 2nd year leaps from Ohams, Slanina, Havsa and Tavares.
20  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Recruiting Update on: July 19, 2017, 12:28:08 pm
From the footage of Trey Evens, he looks to be built quite well.  His shooting form looks solid too.  I hope people are right who are saying he is going to be a big time player for us.  Can he come close to the productions that Hawkins provided?  Can Hicks come close to what AA provided?  Can the improvement of Bunting, Chuba, and a healthy Slanina make up for CS?
As for the 2 transfers, we have 11 guys who are on ship for next season.  Last season, we used 11 scholarship players.  The season before, we also used 11.  Both seasons one went to DBA, and the other to an injured player.  I would say using 2 ships this year is fine of it means that both players will help us the year after.

Yeah, he does look pretty ripped.  Bunting, Hicks, Evans, Slanina, Tavares all getting after it this summer.   

https://twitter.com/search?src=typd&q=willie%20cruz
21  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Recruiting Update on: July 18, 2017, 12:04:09 pm
The top kids are well-scouted and aggressively courted, yes, and upper-tier athletes in any sport will garner attention in literally any country on earth these days. The issue, then, is the next tier down internationally: players with good size/athleticism but unrefined skills; players with good skills that are undersized; players that only recently transitioned to basketball from another sport after a growth spurt.

Limiting the pool of desirable teams to NCAA contenders as your example puts forth, let's say 33% of teams in the NCAA are either annual or very regular NCAA entrants. That's about 120 teams times 13 scholarships per team = 1560 scholarships in any year, divided by 4 to account for departing seniors = 390 recruits for those teams per year. That's not a huge amount of players. Even as the big programs will get their pick of the litter in Europe, Africa, South America, and regions beyond, there's still plenty relatively unheralded talent to be looked at. We might not land a Chris Welp, but we very reasonably could find another Christian Sengfelder.

Yeah, counting all 351 Div I schools at an average of about 4 new guys a year (counting for washouts), 99% plus will go somewhere else.  Even UNC, coming off a title and back to back finals, only signed 1 top 100 guy, and that was Raymond Felton's nephew so a legacy.  They can't recruit one and dones like Kentucky, Duke, Arizona and Kansas.  Even in state guys they lost out on John Wall, Bam Adebayo, Dennis Smith, Harry Giles and Brandon Ingram.

Getting more excited about Evans, and Hicks is like adding a new guy.  Ohams is local.  Tavares and Slanina played local juco (I guess that at let gave a hint they like NYC).

Cruz had Slanina, Tavares, Evans et al all practicing their shooting form in a pool this summer.  On the court in practice, Evans' shot looks great.  Also doing some football drill.  Y'all that have been touting him are right:

   https://twitter.com/CoachCruz4/status/887097188303728644

https://twitter.com/Wilson1Joell/status/885683779842519040

https://twitter.com/CoachCruz4/status/885240108764549120

https://twitter.com/CoachCruz4/status/885889747973025792

Nice to see some of the guys getting after it this summer.  Not that it means all that much necessarily but Evans shot looks nice.  Would love to see some good outside shooting and taking care of the ball to go with the havoc D. And you have to be in shape to play that D.


Cruz also has some shots up of Slanina and Bunting doing weights.  Would like to see Chuba hitting them!  But don't want him to lose those elasticman arms.

We still have one more international dude coming?  May be that this class is going to be sneaky good. 


22  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Recruiting Update on: July 15, 2017, 10:26:10 am
Hell of a prediction. My words two days prior to your prediction:

"Evans will come in heavier, I'll hold to the prediction that he'll be our best player/top scorer."





Chartouny best thief and all around guy.  A full healthy season.

Evans best go to scorer.

Hicks best shooter.

Ohams rebounding and human eraser, improved offense.

Slanina best post scorer, rim protector.

Havsa best ball handling magician.

Tavares most improved.

Pekarek comeback player of the year.

Bunting high jumping bench big.

Zarko head cheerleader.

Raut ? And the Mysterians

23  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Ivan Raut signs with Fordham on: July 14, 2017, 11:20:26 am
Not just offense but we need to replace clutch offense. Down the stretch, Hawkins and AA were money.  Hicks will be crucial to step up with some leadership and offense. Lot of question marks but a few pieces (Bunting, Havsa, Ohams) that look like they have the potential to be promising. Then again, a lot of players look promising in July!

Just commenting on thread about Hawkins contract in Finland, and noticed how big he was in the big wins.  22 points and 6 boards against VCU on 8-14.  20 against Rhodey on only 8 FG attempts, with 9 boards.  17 points and 9 boards in the Davidson win.  Bad as we were on offense, we still need to replace that.  As VTRAM says hopefully we cut down on TOs.  And need some outside magic.
24  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: JaVontae Hawkins signs pro basketball contract in Finland on: July 14, 2017, 11:12:23 am
Good for him.  Fordham grads doing well overseas, which should be a selling point.  Mandell Thomas averaged 12.8 shooting over 40% from 3 for BC Tartu in Estonia.  Rhoomes at 11.7 and 7.3 for St. Quentin in the French b-league. He shot .623 from the filed.  His team was awful but looks like he did his job.

Javontae took a little while but I think he got better as the season went on.  His game changed from Eastern Kentucky, where he was really good from 2.  That slipped a tad at Fordham, perhaps due to tougher D, but his 3 point shooting got much better as the season went on, hitting over 40% in conference, and he was asked to carry a big load for Fordham.  He was excellent in the big wins over Davidson, VCU and Rhodey.   
25  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Ivan Raut signs with Fordham on: July 12, 2017, 03:39:34 pm


Chartouny, Havsa, Hicks, Evans, Chuba, Slanina is a competitive six.



We return 7 of our top 8 guys in steal% and steals per 40 (out of anyone who played significant minutes).  With the core you mention we still should be demons at turning other teams over.  And hopefully adding Evans and Hicks into the mix with Chartouny and Havsa from deep we'll have plenty of 3 and D.

A-10 Talk picks Fordham last as well (they put Bonnies first and I gotta say it may be their year).  On paper i get it, but I think there's a lot more talent coming back than folks realize.  A lot of these guys got blooded in some big A-10 wins when others were down.  I mean, UMass, Dukes, Billikens, sure, they add some newbies with press clippings, but they have been worse than Fordham in conference 2 years running.  Saint Joe's wasn't that good early last year before its guys went down.  And the big boys lost some damn good players.  It's pretty wide open this year even if there'll be more league wide parity.  And sure you need talent but it ain't played on paper.  8-10 2 years ago was a step up. 7-11 this year was disappointing but after that start, sheesh.  I get it. Don't aim low.  Gotta get over .500.

Have to see what Raut adds, but I'm starting to cotton to the rest of the team.   
26  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Rothstein's A-10 Offseason Notebook on: July 11, 2017, 04:13:32 pm
I'm okay with this kind of scenario.  It makes it that much more satisfying when Fordham beats expectations.

Only beat expectations slightly last year.  Picked 11th, finished 10th.  But after the non-conference and starting 0-3, finishing 10th wasn't as bad as the 1-15 or so season some were projecting at 0-3.  And when we got to 7-8 at one point there looked like  chance for more.

In 2015-16 picked 14th, finished 8th.   First division this year. Smiley
27  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Rothstein's A-10 Offseason Notebook on: July 11, 2017, 09:22:03 am
Any relation to this guy? His long lost Turkish cousin? Twice removed?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernard_Toone


28  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Rothstein's A-10 Offseason Notebook on: July 10, 2017, 05:06:48 pm
A safe prediction but the media had us picked lower than our finish 2 years running.  An even safer bet is we wont finish last. Just dont know which team's we beat out.  I also think we will actually be better this year despite the loss of starters. 
29  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: DePaul transfer Erten Gazi has committed to Fordham, per a source. on: June 29, 2017, 12:38:10 pm
On the flip side... EVERYONE was all sorts of juiced up when we signed Severe. I understand the desire to sign that hype-train type guy but we've been burned before, and we've been surprised before. Havsa and Prokop were not heralded signings. no-one was excited about them joining the team. PS didn't exactly blow us away last year but I think he showed us that he has a lot to offer, and I'm expecting a big step forward this year. Havsa flat out shocked us last year and I think we'll see a significant develop with his game too.

I'm going to trust their scouting ability for now. I don't think we really have a reason to dismiss it yet.

Slanina was the team's 2nd leading scorer per possession and per 40 minutes in conference last year, averaging 15 and 7.4.  Main thing with him is keeping him on the floor. And maybe fewer 3s.  Havsa led the team in effective field goal percentage in conference.  By a huge margin. Admittedly small sample.

They'll be deferring less.  I think they will be a big part of the offense.  Along with Chartouny.  And I expect a lot of drives and dishes by Havsa for some Ohams Slams!  And we'll see what Evans and Hicks can bring.  Last year's team was fairly putrid offensively despite the upper classmen.  Defense drove the team and I think we have the personnel to be good again at D, and I don't see how much worse we could be on offense.  Frankly I think we are overrating the guys who left somewhat because they took the shots.  Don't get me wrong, I wish they were back, but I expect PS and CH to be pretty good.  Ohams, too.  Hopefully his offensive game develops, but he was a good rebounder and defender.  
30  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: DePaul transfer Erten Gazi has committed to Fordham, per a source. on: June 29, 2017, 10:41:52 am
That sounds right...but perhaps if we're relying on either, that doesn't bode well for the product on the floor regardless...

Sixteen years ago, the snowy hills of Tarnow were carved up by Shay Berry...and that regime ended up receiving (deserved) damnation from the four dozen chair backs. I'm curious to see how this Turkish experiment turns out. I wouldn't necessary buy these adds. I do not believe they move the needle towards respectability, particularly in a conference that will be much improved next year. If Pekarek, Gazi, Saglam are Players 8/9/10 and not 5/6/7 then I guess that's fine...

The statistical analysis against Gazi (illustrated earlier) is truly cringe worthy. One of the more unproductive players playing at this level...But I also won't rule out the potential chemistry with Havsa. Maybe there's something there, and that's an optimistic angle.

You gotta squint hard on the statistical analysis.  He's shot 25-38 from 2 on his career.  Even with an abysmal 6-27 from 3, his effective field goal percentage is .523.  That's better than Anderson, Hawkins, Chartouny last year, etc.  As you point out, his usage percentage was very low.  We know he can dunk, and most of his 2s were likely layups/dunks.  As for his 3 point shot, well, it's hard when you are shooting less than 1 per game to know anything, it's way too random and a very small sample size.  Same goes for his nice 2 point percentage.  But his glaring offensive deficiency is really turnovers.

As noted, you can't necessarily go by his turkish highlights (that sounds like Peter Graves in Airplane: "Have you ever seen Turkish highlights, Billy?").  Players make all their 3s in those.  But his form doesn't look bad.  We know he can jump.

Sometimes it takes young players a while to develop.   And as for the depth chart, well, i don't know how good Hicks really is, but right now I'd say those 3 you mention probably are 8, 9 and 10 for 2018-19 (9, 10, 11 if Chartouny comes back for year 4), unless Pekarek bounces back to end of season 2016 levels.  You'd have Havsa, Evans, Hicks and Portley in the back court, and Chartouny if he's back.  Slanina, Ohams and Bunting up front, so that's 7 or 8 guys ahead of them most likely, then Gazi, Pekarek and Saglam.  And that season is 16-17 months away.  There'll be other additions.

I actually see a guy with upside and at least a guy who will fit our defensive scheme, is 5th or 6th on the guard chart, but has length and could play some wing in a pinch.  Everyone wants a stud, sure.  I see limited downside and possible upside.  Welcome aboard.   
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