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1  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: A10 Incoming/Outgoing List 2017-18 on: Today at 06:40:51 am
They were both 3 star recruits, Hardnett's national rank was 242, Smith 248.  At that level you are throwing darts to rank, but they were considered to be pretty decent recruits.
2  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Recruiting Update on: Yesterday at 05:09:08 pm
Alston is eligible immediately and has two years of eligibility left.  Graduated in three years and sat one year with knee injury.

Thanks.
3  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Recruiting Update on: Yesterday at 04:02:54 pm
So, still waiting on Alston (is it only us and Bonnies?  I have not seen other visits for him) and the Monster (aloha could mean either hello or goodbye)

Alston needs to sit a year, right?  With Dinero and Collins gone, looks like Evans or Simmons are the ones in play (that we know of) for help for this coming year in the backcourt.
4  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Recruiting Update on: Yesterday at 02:31:53 pm
Portley will be a 4th year junior when JC/Hicks are seniors. Havsa would also be a junior. Not bad, but need more, much more.

Slanina sr, Bunting sr, Ohams jr. (if all still around).  We could call it the block party.  They would have all ranked in the top 10 in the A-10 in block % if they qualified.  Really needs a scoring forward (at the least, obviously need more than that), like Hawkins.  Only better.

   
5  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Recruiting Update on: Yesterday at 01:04:47 pm
I thought the same thing, seemed to have terrific elevation for a player who is 6'2" and the ability to drive to the hoop as well as shoot from the the 3 point line

As with any video highlights you never know the level of competition  but it was encouraging

He did have hops, but I doubt he's 6'2".  Maybe with 2 inch soles on his sneaks.  But he looks damn good anyway.
6  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: A10 Incoming/Outgoing List 2017-18 on: Yesterday at 01:00:32 pm
Speaking of top 10 classes, and take this for what it is worth, here is Fordham's 247 composite rank in A-10 recruiting classes as far back as it goes.  This was their rank coming in (some years not every A-10 is ranked):

2003 10th in A-10
2004 4th in A-10 (Dunston class, 107th nationally, right ahead of Butler; Butler's class went to Sweet 16 as juniors, 2 classes later went to 2 Finals)
2005 10th in A-10
2006 10th in A-10
2007 12th in A-10
2008 2nd in A-10, 51st nationally right behind Saint Louis in both.  Uh, didn't turn out so well.
2009 5th in A-10 ("Lance Brown" class; Gaston not even listed), 109th nationally between East Carolina (in C-USA at that time) and Quinnipiac
2010 9th in A-10
2011 10th in A-10
2012 not ranked?  Rhoomes/Thomas.  LOL, the unranked class may be the best one.  At least senior year.  Probably 2004 is better.
2013 6th in A-10
2014 8th in A-10
2015 3rd in A-10, 96th nationally.  Chartouny not listed (foreign recruit), Bunting listed, but mainly Smith and Hardnett.
2016 9th in A-10.  That's just Ohams.

Juco's and foreigners not counted, this is just incoming freshmen.  So no Hicks, Slanina or Tavares listed for incoming 2016.

For what it is worth. The highest ranked national class was #51 and the team tanked. 
7  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: St. Peter's transfer Antwon Portley has committed to Fordham on: Yesterday at 12:08:57 pm
Not only did his shots go down in year 2, but his efficiency as well.  His PER went from 14 to 10.1, TS% from .527 to .480 (at least he can hit FTs), his FT rate went down.  He got a little better on D.

Interestingly, this was partly a non-conference issue.  He was almost as good in conference in year 2, again counting totals and per game totals down, but he shot better from 3 in conference last year, eFG% up.  Actually he was better in conference from 3 than out of conference each year.  He shot .367 from 3 this year.

Not great from 2.  But I like him.  Didn't score big numbers but didn't seem overwhelmed in games against Notre Dame and Maryland.  He has room for growth and looks like a decent player.  He seemed to end the season fairly well, last 10 games hit 43% of his 3s, 22-51, as St. Peter's won the CIT.  Hopefully we see improvement under JN like with Rhoomes, Anderson and Thomas.
8  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: A10 Incoming/Outgoing List 2017-18 on: April 26, 2017, 11:51:07 am
A few thoughts.  First, we know JN was hired late in 2015, so hard for him to impact that class.  Chartouny and Bunting were Pecora recruits, but have played well under JN.  Chartouny pretty much thrives in this type system, the steals and 3s (up to 38% from 3 and nation's steal leader).  Bunting has improved as a big man depth piece (can make what little he takes at 60% and can block a shot), and hopefully can continue to improve in a bigger role.  Pekarek was a JN recruit, and played decently as a starter at the tail end of 2016, but regressed and was hurt this year.  He hasn't shot as well from 3 as hoped.  Hardnett and Smith didn't work out.

Last year's class, Ohams was a good defender and rebounder, not a bad passer.  Havsa showed promise.  Slanina did as well until injured.  Hicks was hurt.  Got a nice one year from Hawkins.  Tavares was disappointing, provided minutes.  I don't think he ever did Peter's proverbial 3-13. Smiley  He did do a 4-14 and a 5-16.  Whatever Nate Blue thinks he did play significant minutes all year.  

You want to add at least 2-3 long term pieces a year and then supplement.  He's done ok thus far through this year; grades are incomplete.

Next year will tell us more about the last 2 classes.  They'll have more minutes and bigger roles.

As for this year's class.  Right now there is no class.  Fordham isn't an easy recruit of course.  JN and Crawford did pretty well reloading on the fly at Eastern Kentucky with freshmen, transfers and jucos.  Ton did ok at Radford and Irvine.  

Things happen later and later.  At the upper levels you have new draft rules so guys can declare and then come back.  That effects top level recruit decisions, which effects the next level and so on. Same with grad transfer rules.  The game of musical chairs goes later and later.

Until Sengfelder and Anderson said they were leaving Fordham hypothetically had 10 guys coming back who have started games for them, plus Hicks.  Of course that includes Havsa, who started 1 game, and Zarko, who started one last year, and Bunting, who only started at the beginning of last year, etc.  Not world beaters but not bottom feeding the A-10, and guaranteed starter minutes would have required a pretty darn good player.  Chartouny, AA and Sengfelder would start, Slanina most likely, Ohams, with Bunting, Pekarek, Havsa, Tavares, Hicks and Zarko as depth.  Getting ahead of Zarko etc. may not be hard, but getting ahead of all of them?  With Sengfelder and AA gone we have more spots for immediate time.

Obviously this doesn't hold every team back.  As has been pointed out even the bottom feeders are adding.  No one is standing still.  It has to play out but right now some anxiety isn't out of place.  That's normal for fans.  We had guys coming at this point last year.  Of course N'Diaye didn't work out.

I'm not so much worried about next year, although I'm not as hopeful as before.  But after that it just gets harder and harder.  You need to add every year.

So we shall see.  We will add some players.  Eventually you have to add someone.

As far as what folks at A-10 talk think, although last year one optimistic Fordham grad posted on there about NCAA hopes, the A-10 media/coaches undersold Fordham 2 year's running.  We shall see.  I wonder if Ali Ton knows any other Belarussian big men like this guy:

   www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/artsiom-parakhouski-1.html

9  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: A10 Incoming/Outgoing List 2017-18 on: April 25, 2017, 10:14:37 am
Jack Whitman, 6'9" grad transfer from William & Mary out of the CAA, where he averaged 10.1 ppg and 5.4 rpg on 66% from the field, sets visits to UNC, Clemson and George Washington.

 http://www.scout.com/college/basketball/recruiting/story/1773189-jack-whitman-sets-three-visits

UNC has just signed garrison Brooks after he backed out of a Mississippi State NLI (where his dad is an assistant coach; must be some awkward moments at the dinner table), so they now have 3 big man recruits (all outside the composite top 100, although one or another source has moved 2 of them into the back of the top 100).  My guess is that UNC will wait to see if Tony Bradley comes back and/if they sign Kevin Knox, decision pending 1st week in May.  Bradley has until late May to back out of the draft.  If both those things happen they won't have a scholarship for Whitman.  In which case his chances of going to GW pick up.  He'd certainly get more playing time there if Bradley comes back to UNC.

Clemson is also a decent possibility, losing Blossomgame and Djitte, their starting center.     

10  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Recruiting Update on: April 24, 2017, 05:36:26 pm
They'll just use whatever letters they have that fit.  Here's Fordham's Men's B-Ball twitter account that just referred to David Pekarek as David Perkark:

https://twitter.com/FordhamRams/status/854347798065623040

Well, they deleted that tweet after I replied that they got his name wrong.  David was at the A-10 Leaders 2017 Summit earlier this month.   
11  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Recruiting Update on: April 24, 2017, 01:54:16 pm
had 44 in a 3OT victory against Bryant. 44 is serious.

For more info on him: https://www.fanragsports.com/news/sacred-hearts-quincy-mcknight-will-transfer/

We held him to 2, yay!  Averaged 18.9 a game. eFG .458 and .321 from 3, so a volume kinda guy.
12  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Recruiting Update on: April 24, 2017, 11:10:52 am
Here's the link to Fordham's Verbal Commit page... with our class/position matrix.   

http://www.verbalcommits.com/schools/fordham

With any of our named targets going elsewhere.... I'm expecting the international "basketball diaspora" to start showing up on the shores of Rose Hill again.

We're gonna bleed money sewing all of the letters for those long names letters onto unis and sweats!   I hope.  Wink

They'll just use whatever letters they have that fit.  Here's Fordham's Men's B-Ball twitter account that just referred to David Pekarek as David Perkark:

https://twitter.com/FordhamRams/status/854347798065623040
13  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Recruiting Update on: April 22, 2017, 04:37:45 pm
He was out the entire 15-16 season with a torn acl.   This article indicates he wanted the ball and to shoot more.  Reading between the lines he and reed did not see eye to eye on his roll.   Good mind set if he has the game to play at this level would be a nice pick up 6-5. 

http://www.mcall.com/sports/college/mc-lehigh-basketball-late-season-run-20170306-story.html

Good shooting team, Lehigh.  8 guys played 19 minutes or more per game and Alston was last of that group at about 35% from 3.  Which isn't bad, but the rest hit 38% or more.  23rd in the nation.  They were good from 2 as well, Alston included.  They had a lot of options but with Kempton graduating Alston would be in line for more.  He looks pretty good.
14  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Irish guy recruiting update on: April 20, 2017, 05:15:27 pm
Okay lets start with Ragip Atar 7 footer leading scorer and rebounder in their last FIBA tourney
http://www.fiba.com/europe/u18/2016/Ragip-ATAR

Ha, was just looking at his youtube clip.  And linked right by it was Cavit Ege Havsa highlights from this year!  Man, those highlights always make everyone look great.  Every shot goes in, the passes all thread the needle.  You'd think it ws every basket or assist but they missed one of his awesome spin moves from some game, i forget which, but I linked to it earlier this year. 
Anyway, Ege and Ali need to go talk to this guy. Smiley
15  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Recruiting Update on: April 20, 2017, 09:51:37 am
Fazekas tweeted he was visiting Vandy, too.  He liked a reply to that saying he should come to Fordham.

Last year we already had Hicks, papa and Ohams signed by now. Papa never came of course.  I think Slanina and Havsa signed later.
16  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: AA to UCONN on: April 20, 2017, 09:33:18 am
The comments on here are mind blowing. It's sad that people down a player and his abilities before seeing him perform. He hasn't had one practice yet with UCONN and already you know he won't get any play time, you already know he won't be getting any development either. Thank God AA isn't basing his transfer on what you think, he'd be doomed. Who needs enemies when the people who once supported you is throwing stones at your head. No one knows the conversation that was had between the coaching staff and AA. I'm sure he is well aware of what is expected from him next season and what to expect from the program @ UCONN. Do you think he would have made the move KNOWING how much PT he would be getting @ Fordham his last year. Like seriously....think about it. I'm sure this was something that was FIRST on his mind. If you know him...you would know that he is not into making irrational moves without thinking it ALL the way through. I've followed this young man since AAU and High School Ball his skills speak for themselves. Whether you like the way he plays or not, you can't take the talent that he possesses away from him. Now be good Fordham fans and just wish him well, no ill will needed because with or without the support he will make it into a league like the NBA. AA I'll just say this...you have a lot of people rooting for you, never loose sight or focus on the the dreams you have/had regarding your Basketball Career. Everyone who is supporting him on here it's nice to see that he can move on and have people wish him well and nothing but the best.

My comment is not up for debate....I honestly dislike when people TRY and discredit someones talents and abilities when they don't have one morsel of it themselves. Yes this is a forum where you can speak your mind and have an opinion but sheesh....don't tear down a player who wants to see what else is out there for him!

I've seen him perform.  I like AA.  I'm a Fordhamfan so naturally I preferred he stayed.  Their own fan log has him 4th on the depth chart.  H would likely develop some anywhere. I just think he'd have developed more starting in the A-10.  Good luck to him.
17  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: A10 Incoming/Outgoing List 2017-18 on: April 19, 2017, 04:23:21 pm
Two more out at UMASS:

Verbal Commits‏ @VerbalCommits  20m20 minutes ago
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 UMass F Brison Gresham (FR) has requested his release to transfer. http://verbalcommits.com/players/brison-gresham Ö

Verbal Commits‏ @VerbalCommits  21m21 minutes ago
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 UMass G DeJon Jarreau (FR) has requested his release to transfer. http://verbalcommits.com/players/dejon-jarreau Ö

Fairly high-rated, especially Jarreau.  That was the 33rd ranked class in the country, but they finished 4-14 in the A-10.  NC State, UConn, Texas, all had top 10 classes and flamed out.  JN was 3-0 against Kellogg.  Imagine what he could do with his recruits. 
18  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: 2017-18 Out Of Conference Schedule on: April 19, 2017, 12:10:08 pm
It's a bit of Catch-22.

Games that will challenge us and also draw interest can often lead to very poor OOC records and subsequently to lack of interest b/c we are always getting beat. Is getting 500 to 1000 more people in the stands going to make us a better program? I think that getting some winning way going is more important, then you can upgrade your schedule as you progress. I thought next year would have been a good year for a slight upgrade, but I do not feel that way anymore due to the recent developments.

Agreed.  And some casual fans have no idea who cupcakes are, anyway.  East Tennessee and Texas Arlington are top 75 Kenpom teams but folks around here probably think Iona and Hofstra are better.  Not that I'd mind some games with teams like that, or Georgetown, Notre Dame.  You still need some cupcakes now and then.  
19  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: 2017-18 Out Of Conference Schedule on: April 19, 2017, 11:30:42 am
I think we've been over this.  Fordham's OOC schedule was appropriate for where it was (talking strength, not necessarily regional or "name" match-ups or timing, etc., which also drew complaints).

I find it hard to believe the A-10 would complain.  Five A-10 schools had easier OOC schedules than Fordham per Kenpom.  Fordham's OOC rank was 244 (Fordham itself ranked 202).  And Syracuse always has a weak OOC even with some big time games salted in.  Their OOC was 248, lower than Fordham's.  I doubt the Big east or now ACC ever complained.

Duquesne's OOC was ranked 345 (it ranked 224).  UMass OOC was 289.  Saint Louis 298.  The Bonnies 281.  George Mason 259. 

GW was at 207, Richmond 214.  Given their ranks well below weight class.  Then we start getting into tougher schedules.  La Salle 124 was clearly above its weight class.   Sain Joseph's 64.  Dayton 77.  davidson 98.  Rhodey 113.  VCU 128.  Most teams have weaker schedules than their rank.  Rhode Island was ranked in the top 25 and ended as Kenpom 34.  Their opponents are 77 spots lower, Fordham's 42 spots lower.  The Bonnie's were ranked 180 spots higher than their average OOC opponent.

You can't always tell how strong your slate will be.  This year's OOC was stronger than last year's, which was ranked 350.  The second worst in all D-1.

I someone points out Lipscomb won 20 games.  Their kenpom rank was 165.  Saint Peter's was 95.  UTA 75.  St. John's 99.  Rutgers 135.  East Tennessee 67. 

Fordham was 4-2 against lower ranked teams (although Rider was actually ranked fairly close to Fordham, and NYIT isn't Div-I) and 2-5 against higher ranked teams in OOC.  The Manhattan and Sacred Heart losses were the bad losses. 

Kenpom isn't the be all and end all.  He doesn't distinguish between D-1 or D-II games and uses scoring margin, which is fine, but Lipscomb beat the crap out of a few non-D-I teams.  Piedmont, Sewanee and Fisk.  They also beat Missouri on the road.  And they beat Florida Gulf Coast.   

All in all Fordham's OOC strength was fair for where the team was.  The team was a little worse than expected, and no doubt Sacred Heart and Manhattan were bad losses.  Manhattan was of course a road traditional rivalry game.  It's the losses more than the schedule itself.  Duquesne lost to Tennessee-Martin, UMBC and Robert Morris, none quite as bad as the Sacred Heart, but not exactly murderer's row.  The Bonnie's lost to Little Rock, Kenpom 245.  Teams schedule some cupcakes and upsets happen.



   
20  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Recruiting Update on: April 18, 2017, 12:55:45 pm
nice work. Fazekas to Valpo, Mercurius to Dunk City, Johnson to UCSB, Jones to Hofstra, Collins to South Florida. Then what?

247 doesn't even have Fordham as offering Collins.  Verbal Commits has him on our target chart. The only one of the guys that Verbal Commits has us as targeting that 247 says even has a Fordham offer is Kante.  Najja Hunter (out of St. Benedict's in Newark) was on that chart but he committed to Rice last week.

Myles Johnson, 247 lists 2 schools.  Stanford (no offer), and Lehigh.  Tim Kempton replacement!  But 247 lists him at 6'6".  So does ESPN. Verbal Commits says 6'9".  Scout says 6'10".  Growth spurt, but these sites aren't the most reliable.

BTW, Papa N'Diaye averaged 3.8 minutes per game at Walters State juco this past year.  
21  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Recruiting Update on: April 18, 2017, 12:08:49 pm
Drunkie... we are getting close to "drink the Kool-Aid my children" if we think that is a competitive lineup!

-It would take Hicks to far exceed expectation (possible)
-Ohams to continue to breakout (Probable... just how much?)
-Slania to cure his foul problem, get stronger (possible... I think he will)
-Taveres to turn into a new player (doubtful)

If we pull an inside straight on all four, we might compete.    Odds on pulling that straight?

(game show music.... ding)

Exactly, that's the right answer. I'm not counting on it either.

I'm worried as hell.

If I'm JN, I'm trying to figure out my best exit plan.   

I'm not drinking kool-aid.  I'm just listing the players we have as of now, basically.  That's pretty much the team.  I could have thrown in Sanchez and Petty but threw in Saglam because he's 6'6".

Squinting really hard, like I said, 8 of those guys have played double digit minutes during A-10 win streaks.  Mostly as role players, of course.  Slanina averaged 8 and 4 in conference, 15/7.5 per 40.   Havsa averaged 8 ppg in his last 5 games as a 4th or 5th option.  His eFG% was .565, second best on the team.

In fact, Bunting, Havsa and Slanina had the top 3 eFG% on the team (.570, .565, .537).  Chartouny was 5th.  Bunting obviously didn't take many shots.  But Slanina and Havsa can take bigger parts next year.  Ohams, Bunting and Slanina were the top 3 rebounders.  Chartouny, Ohams and Havsa led the team in steal % (the latter 2 tied with Anderson).  Pekarek averaged 9 ppg as a starter at the tail end of 2016 season as a 5th option.  He was awful this past year, but maybe part of that was the injury.  He's a back-up, but even in a 10 game stretch in 2016 he averaged 10 ppg shooting 33% from 3 in the A-10 during a 5-5 run.  No great shakes but there you go, he was starting on a team winning A-10 games.

If Hicks is good, then I see O having to come from Chartouny (he was up to .382 from 3 this year), Hicks, Slanina and Havsa.  Inside banging from Havsa and Slanina.  A major issue would be only Bunting as interior depth.  Although that worked some in some A-10 wins this year as we lost guys to injury and fouls.

All of these guys have played major parts in wins.  They will need to take steps forward, and it is major wish-casting to expect everything to fall exactly in place.  We need more players.  Right now we don't know who those guys are or if they'll help.  It sure looks like a lower division team.  But Fordham beat their A-10 media and coaches poll rank handily in 2016 and actually beat it again this year.      

I hope we get all the immediate contributors Peter says we need.  We likely do need them.  But just looking at what we have, we have guys who have played in A-10 wins, not basement level teams.  But they'll have to up their games as their usage level will need to go way up absent some major newcomers.  Who knows?  We didn't see much of Ohams, Slanina or havsa until A-10 play, out of necessity.
22  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: AA to UCONN on: April 18, 2017, 11:32:19 am
UConn was #96 in kenpom this past year.  Fifth in the AAC.  AAC was top heavy, with SMU and Cincy ranked higher than any A-10 team at 11 and 23, respectively.  Rhode Island led the A-10 at 34.  But the Bonnies were 5th in the A-10 at 91, higher than UConn, and Richmond was as well, at 92.

Despite the storied history, and certainly UConn as a team is a step up from Fordham (more than a step), the competition he will face in practice or on the court isn't much different than what he faced in the A-10.  Jaylen Adams on St. Bonaventure is better than Jalen Adams on UConn (well, maybe; UConn's Adams was a 5 star top 25 recruit, the Bonnie's guy is a 2 star recruit, but has starred in college).  And, while maybe Anderson will surprise and get more PT, the feeling is (per UConn's sbnation blog) that he is the 4th guard behind Adams (#23 recruit in his class, 5 star), Gilbert (#35, 4 star) and Vital (#167, 3 star).  All more highly thought of as recruits than Anderson (unranked 2 star).  And they still may land Tremont Waters.

UConn should get Terry larrier back at small forward.  he was injured last year early.  Ranked #33 in his class, 4 star out of The Bronx.  But they have lost 3 transfers, the next generation of bigs, with Brimah and Facey graduating.  They also lose Purvis, their 2nd leading scorer behind Adams.  And they have a couple of forwards coming in, guys in the mid-100s, and a JC transfer.

Their guard play should be ok.  Anderson is actually a better outside shooter than Gilbert has shown to be thus far.  AA is athletic and is a good on-ball defender.  UConn has obviously had some great guard play both under Calhoun and under Ollie.  Ollie played in the NBA.  It'll be an interesting experience for AA.  Will they make the NCAA's?  Probably not, but they could surprise.  They were a bit of team in turmoil too, a down year and then losing 3 seniors and 3 transfers, and losing their top recruit.    

I don't think he's going to get in the NBA.  Although he certainly is athletic enough.  A tad short, but basically it's a skills question.  I think mostly it is a chance for him to experience life at the high levels of college basketball, the surroundings, more than actual improvement as a player.  He may learn a thing or 2, but I think starting in the A-10 beats being a bench player in the AAC for basketball experience (as opposed to life experience).  I don't blame him for wanting to see what it is like.  Whether he stayed or not he will be a euro-player.

  

    
23  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Recruiting Update on: April 17, 2017, 04:16:26 pm
Fact is, that won't be the lineup. It can't be. (Right?) ...but you understand my point, and I don't think you disagree either.

I like Havsa and I actually believe Hicks will give us what I thought Tavares would (and didn't), but it's still four players off. If the aggressive D- is the calling card, you need nine guys flying around. Hawkins, AA, CS are all out. You need Collins, a JUCO scorer, and an impact forward in. All three. Not one of three or maybe 1 1/2. Need all three by May 18th.

They need some bodies.  If I wed myself to needing all 3 I have a feeling I'll be disappointed before a game is played.  But I like your list and I'd be a lot more optimistic if it came to be.

Right now even if all come back and healthy it's:

Chartouny
Hicks
Tavares
Ohams
Slanina

Havsa
Zarko
Saglam
Pekarek
Bunting

If we could get them some fake IDs I think they'd have a chance at the Turkish 16 and unders.
24  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Sengfelder to Boise st on: April 17, 2017, 03:56:44 pm
Going to agree, again. Sengfelder is a really nice A10 role player, with a throw back 1988 skill-set, but there's good reason my girlfriend said he moves around on the court like a refrigerator. For every trey he'll bang from the wing, he's giving up a lot on the other end of the floor. The wing forwards at New Mexico/UNLV/Air Force will run a clinic in the lane.

PS - If you visit broncosports.com, you'll find Sengfelder as the 'front page' image and news story: http://www.broncosports.com/sports/m-baskbl/bosu-m-baskbl-body.html

"BOISE, Idaho - Boise State menís basketball signed Christian Sengfelder to a Financial Aid Contract, head coach Leon Rice announced Friday...Sengfelder is expected to begin graduate work at Boise State in kinesiology."

Yes, but Luke Maye is just as slow and nailed to the floor.  I think Luke Maye is better (and I have been defending Luke on UNC blogs for 2 years, and it wasn't really until the NCAAs this year that he earned some consistent respect).  I'm just saying that if certain things break against UNC a guy like Sengfelder would actually get some PT there.  They only have 10 scholarship guys for next year right now.
25  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Recruiting Update on: April 17, 2017, 03:44:40 pm
So, this isn't "constructive" but this situation is becoming dire. I was (blindly) under the impression that JN could immediately attract 2-3 impact signings under the presumption of instant PT. Players want to play. Shooters want to shoot. I believe I alluded to it as a "give the car keys" situation. No one wants to drive this car? It's late, early. April 17th.

Even with Chartouny, a lineup of JC, Havsa, Tavares, Chuba, Slanina is going to win 4 basketball games all season, zero after Christmas.

As I mentioned before, this 'lineup' is four impact players aware from competing. Need to see blue ink soon, for the right names.

I think the 4 games all year, zero after xmas is a tad pessimistic. I notice you don't have Hicks in there, and fair enough.  But Havsa, Ohams, Bunting and Tavares all played double digit minutes or more in the 3 game win streak against Rhode Island, Saint Louis and Duquesne.  Slanina scored double digits in wins over UMass, Davidson and Saint Joe's.  Chartouny is a known commodity.  Pekarek started during the 4 game A-10 win streak tail end of 2016.  Zarkko played double digit minutes in those games as well. 

Add Hicks into the mix and I think JN can get them to win some games.  He managed some awfully short lineups at times last year.  Now, for the most part these guys haven't been asked to produce much offense.  Chartouny has at times.  Slanina a couple of times showed promise.  Even Havsa at times.  So it'll again have to use D as a calling card.

I agree they need more guys, but 0-16 in the A-10 is a bit of a stretch even with no one else.

 
26  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: AA to UCONN on: April 17, 2017, 03:11:41 pm
A couple of things:

1.  3 guys transferred out of UCONN and their top 100 player was released from his letter of intent.  They needed to bring in 5 guys.  Also, they are counting on two guys who had season ending injuries last year to come back and be the same players.  In other words, UCONN is more likely than not going to miss the tournament.  
2.  Anderson's statement about Ollie helping him develop his game is short sighted to say the least.  He already knows our staff can improve his game (or at least he should) because it happened over the last two years.  Kevin Ollie and his staff are not going to spend 5 seconds working with a grad a transfer they picked up out of desperation because of a rash of departures.  He will be taught their system and they will get out of him this year what they can.  There will be no development of his game because he is not a part of the future of that program.  He will be an after thought as they spend every waking minute trying to find the next top 100 guard.  
3.  As far as going pro, I think we can all agree he is not going to the NBA and that he is not remotely close.  So he is going to play in Europe.  I do not see how playing at UCONN will make any difference in his pro prospects for Europe.  Rhoomes Thomas and even Canty are playing pro ball in Europe.  Playing big minutes in the Atlantic 10 would give him enough exposure to get to the pros in Europe.  Playing 10 minutes a game on a mediocre UCONN is not going to do a thing for his pro prospects.  



Yeah, I don't think UConn is going dancing next year, and I doubt this does much for his game. 
27  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Sengfelder to Boise st on: April 17, 2017, 03:09:02 pm
Sorry Drunkle, but anyone using Sengfelder and UNC in the same sentence has lost his mind.  There is no scenario that would get him on that team short of their moving to the Atlantic 10.  The reports of these cant miss opportunities were overblown.  He is at Boise State where he will be on a team competing against Nevada and Colorado St. for the automatic bid and they may get an at large.  Makes more sense for him to go there than Anderson to UCONN, so there is that. 

Well, having followed both teams quite closely, I stand by what I said, although I'll add a caveat.  They will probably find a grad transfer who offers more rim protection than sengfelder.

They are losing Hicks and Meeks to graduation.  Bradley may be a one and done.  Knox has been playing footsie all year and likely will go elsewhere.  So their only guys 6'7" and above are Luke Maye, a slow guy with short arms and no hops (but a good shooter and excellent position rebounder), who is 6'7", and 2 recruits who are outside the top 200.  They will absolutely need more size if Bradley leaves and Knox goes elsewhere.

Now, Garrison Brooks de-committed from Mississippi St., and Jeremiah Tilmon de-committed from Illinois.  They at one point had the Heels on their lists.  But now it looks like they are likely to go elsewhere.  There may be other late signing possibilities but none I have heard of.

That leaves grad transfers.  I could see them favoring other guys over Sengfelder, if they are available.  But as it stands they need someone with size who can bang and give them foul trouble relief.  I'm not saying he'd star for them.  But if they lose Bradley and lose out on Knox they will need someone.  They would probably want someone who offers more rim protection than Sengfelder since Maye doesn't offer that.  But as constituted they would find a use for Sengfelder.   The last time they needed a grad transfer was 2010-11.  Justin Knox was 6'9" and had been a 6 ppg and 4 rpg back-up at 'Bama.  He came to the Heels and averaged 4 and 3 in about 10-15 minutes per.  Sengfelder would play less.  Maybe like Luke Maye did in 2016 behind Brice Johnson, Meeks, Hicks and Joel James (maye averaged about 5 minutes per last year).   And believe it or not Sengfelder is better than freshman year Luke Maye.     
28  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: A10 Incoming/Outgoing List 2017-18 on: April 17, 2017, 02:45:50 pm
Doesn't Crawford also recruit?  He did fairly well at Eastern Kentucky.  And Uken brought in guys at Bradley (who didn't all stay, of course).

I do think that it is a tough sell, but you do have NYC, the Atlantic-10, etc.  And opportunity. 

It's a shame this year didn't turn out a little better.  A rough start and rough finish.  But 9-9 conference (Duquesne 1 and GW games were so winnable) and an A-10 tourney win, and above .500 overall and a post-season visit (take Manhattan and Sacred Heart too), and that's an easier sell.  Even with guys leaving ("Hey, we're building great things and you will have playing time").  It's hard to tell kids that 13-19 and 7-11 is actually an improvement and things are looking up compared to most of the last decade or 2.   
29  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Sengfelder to Boise st on: April 17, 2017, 11:44:50 am
I would have preferred to see him at Duke or UNC Chapel Hill, etc. not only for the BB but the academics as well. BSU should be a breeze for him. But he will always be a Fordham man and I am sure he will be a terrific representative of Fordham in all his future endeavors.  I hope he has good memories and sentiments toward Fordham.


What are you smoking? Duke or North Carolina? Last I checked, those programs win national championships consistently and it's not by recruiting below average 5th year Atlantic 10 players. He wouldn't carry towels for Unc or duke

If Tony Bradley goes NBA (he said he will test the waters but might not hire an agent), and Kevin Knox doesn't sign with the Heels (he's down to 5 teams), then Sengfelder would probably get some run with the Heels.  Otherwise they are left with the tallest returning player being undersized 4 Luke Maye (6'7") and two 6'9" recruits who are not consensus top 100 guys.  Sterling Manley (composite rank 261) and Brandon Huffman (composite rank 203).  Pinson at 6'6" can also play 4 in a pinch.  No weeping for them, of course, but I'd wager Sengfelder would get 7 or 8 minutes a game for that team.  Of course, they could always find another grad transfer if they have to.  Their last one was Justin Knox in 2010-11 who had averaged 6 ppg and 4 rpg roughly at Alabama.       
30  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Sengfelder to Boise st on: April 14, 2017, 11:19:35 am
agree   MWC was only a shade below A-10 this past season per Sagarin     also, Boise SOS was stronger than ours and home attendance was far superior, several games exceeding 7K    plus, if he has a friend there, not such a strange move    enjoyed watching him play, his effort and wish him well   

It definitely is not like the MAAC or CAA.  The MAAC has twice gotten 2 bids in its 38 years (it didn't get autobids until 1984, unfortunately right after Fordham won the 2 prior conference tournaments).  The CAA got 3 bids once and 2 bids 3 times in 38 years, including once with David Robinson's Navy team, when it was still the ECAC south division.

The MWC has had multiple bids 14 times in its 18 year existence.  And it lost 2 of its earlier power teams, BYU and Utah, yet still put 4 in the NCAA Tournament in 2012 (and 3 teams ranked in the final AP poll), and 5 in 2013, after BYU and Utah left.
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