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1  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Recruiting Update on: May 22, 2017, 01:44:27 pm
Maybe. I know St. John's has some programs designed to let students spread tuition, with discounts, and get their degrees within 3 years. Idea is to minimize student debt while filling up summer and winter intersession courses.

To each their own. But I got my own Fordham degree in 3 years as an undergrad and, if I had it to do over again, would have found a way to stay and pay for my 4th year and graduate with my classmates and friends.  Just saying.
2  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Fordham’s Joseph Chartouny to Declare for NBA Draft on: May 19, 2017, 07:45:00 pm
Agree -- we'll be very strong in the backcourt now. I won't say "welcome back", because Joe never left.
3  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Disappointed ! on: May 19, 2017, 01:01:05 pm
I was going to say Rochester is a longer drive than D.C., much less Baltimore or Philly.  Actually, Rochester is a 1 mile longer drive than Richmond, Virginia.

Don't I know it! AA and Mandel were not "locals".

Recruiting's changed, it's become an industry, and now involves a national "sifting" process. The best prospects get sifted into the Power 5 conferences; geography doesn't matter. The next pool of players spreads onto the next group of conferences, including the A-10.  You just don't see a Bob Lanier winding up at St. Bonaventure any more. And the recruiting stream doesn't run through the high schools, it's largely through AAU ball.

That being said, it is very disappointing that we went head-to-head with a number of A-10 schools for prospects this year, and did not come away with a single "win". Foreign players are a consolation only if they are as good, or better, as the guys we were chasing at home.
4  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Disappointed ! on: May 19, 2017, 11:16:23 am
While I suspect one or more foreign players might show up, it's pretty disappointing that a school offering a 4-year ride valued at $67K per year, with a gorgeous campus in the most exiting city on the continent, cannot persuade a single American HS or prep hoopster to accept a scholarship offer. That makes exactly 1 such player in 2 years to sign on.

Perhaps it was bad luck of the draw with the kids we offered this year, maybe something else. The one that stung me was losing Myles Johnson to Rutgers, of all places. He had the academic tools clearly was willing to relocate to the East coast, and signs with a school that's been out of the Dance for longer than we have, and competing in a conference they have little chance of prospering in. We've got to do something to rebrand this program (winning would be nice).

I'm not totally dejected, though. I think JN has a certain "type" of player he wants, and pretty challenging performance expectations. [Like Tom Penders, who was accused of being a "lazy" recruiter -- a charge that could not be leveled at JN & Co.  But in fact, Penders was just looking for a certain type of player, and he put some tough SOBs on the court during his time here. I'd like to think JN's the same way.
5  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Recruiting Update on: May 18, 2017, 02:31:59 pm
Now this thread has deteriorated into talking about "talking about recruiting"! Roll Eyes

Well, exactly can we say about those who talk about those talking about recruiting?  Maybe we could start a poll.
6  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Disappointed ! on: May 18, 2017, 02:29:26 pm
C'mon, folks, we haven't been a factor in the local recruiting scene for a long time. Even Pecora, with his "New York Style!" nonsense, got most of his recruits from out of area. We've had something like 24 losing seasons in the past 26. Obviously, the local kids see that and know it, and if they don't, rival coaches are telling them it. 

The 17-14 record in JN's first year put some spring into our step. I have to think that losing 19 last season allowed rival coaches to ramp up the "same old Fordham" line.
7  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Recruiting Update on: May 17, 2017, 11:29:30 pm
Well, hold on a second. On the one hand, we want to keep discussion in the thread to players we're actually recruiting, when the staff has gone to radio silence on who we are recruiting. Well if that's the case, yeah, folks will speculate. As is my view with many things, if nobody is actually harmed . . .  don't sweat it.

Spring signing period closes minutes from now. Seems that, after that, speculation is all we have.
8  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Recruiting Update on: May 17, 2017, 06:41:34 pm
A scholarship for a D-II player? We can't be serious.   There's nothing more to say...

Depends on the player. Creighton took Manny Suarez, no?

Doesn't the school usually issue a press release at the end of the signing period?
9  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Fordham’s Joseph Chartouny to Declare for NBA Draft on: May 16, 2017, 12:14:03 pm
Joe's our best player. We hold the seat out for him. I think whatever pro prospects he has, domestic or foreign, are enhanced if he plays another year of college ball. And there's that degree.
10  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Recruiting Update on: May 15, 2017, 03:25:58 pm
If Pekarek could reproduce that stretch, or come close, I don't think anyone on the board would complain.
11  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Why the RHG is to be Named for McGlaughlin on: May 15, 2017, 10:53:45 am
Perhaps this is the Administration's way of saying "25 years of athletic futility? It wasn't just Frank.  It was us, too.
12  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Football / Re: Memorial Field stadium on: May 13, 2017, 08:11:43 am
If it's affordable to use, it could be that "bridge" venue, the way Cincinnati Gardens served that function for Xavier before Cintas Center got built.
13  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Academic standards and athletics success on: May 12, 2017, 08:11:14 pm

Those were all Pecora recruits. Did we have any 3 year guys before Pecora?  Did we have transfers in from every other coach in history sans Pecora? Prime directive was to keep Franks lofty grad numbers up. Hence a contract extension to a 20 game loser.

It has changed and it needed to, thank goodness. We now seem to have the right mix coming in on front end to compete. JUCOs, transfers, 5th yr. guys. Hopefully, the more realistic recruiting continues....let the cards fall where they may....and get frank out of there for good........


Don't know why it matters that these were Pecora recruits. I do think Tom believed in Fordham as an institution, and he and his staff corralled good academic prospects. That's to his credit. He couldn't coach these kids up worth a da*n. JN's experience has shown that a lot of these kids were better players than they've shown under Frank. If Pecora had chucked the ego, and hired an Xs and Os guy, . . . well, water under the bridge, not worth dwelling on.

JN strikes me as a realist. He's got realistic views of the school, and what it would take for us to compete in the A-10.  He doesn't settle when it comes to recruiting. I think we've got the guard slots covered for the next 2 years. Now get us some bigger players, and we could be OK next year, defections and graduations notwithstanding.
14  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Why the RHG is to be Named for McGlaughlin on: May 12, 2017, 08:00:30 pm
The only consoling thought in this discussion is that the floor is what you strike when you hit bottom, so in that sense it's fitting that Frank's name go there.
15  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Recruiting Update on: May 12, 2017, 07:59:35 pm
I agree...I try to keep myself from posting stuff about random guys, but this guy just looked interesting...it's probably because his massive size made him a fan favorite at Pitt...the RHG could use somebody like that...  Grin

We had Glenn Batemon. Been there, done that.  One thing I like about JN's recruiting is he doesn't seem to settle. He doesn't want the guy with MAAC or NEC offers he hopes can improve. He wants the 3-star guys. And that's who we need to compete in our league.
16  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Recruiting Update on: May 12, 2017, 11:32:04 am
Yeah. Rather have the guy from Lehigh, if he's available. Big men tend to be green when you get them, and develop over time. Nix is 4 years in, 1.4 ppg. Not much upside.
17  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Why the RHG is to be Named for McGlaughlin on: May 12, 2017, 08:19:43 am
There will not be any naming of the RHG for any  " McGlaughlin," rest assured.  It's possible, if enough investors contribute, that the RHG will be named after one or more "McLaughlins".  Wink

Who knows? Sports information has a penchant for misspelling things!
18  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Academic standards and athletics success on: May 11, 2017, 03:51:57 pm
One thing to bear in mind is not just academic standards, but academic offerings. There are schools with majors in such things as physical education, recreation, sports management, physical therapy, and other disciplines that draw a significant number of student athletes. [Not dumping on those majors, BTW; folks into athletics may be more inclined to pursue careers in athletic-related fields]. To my knowledge, Fordham does not offer those majors, or a number of others (nursing, engineering, etc., etc.). No doubt some prospects pass us by because we don't offer what they want.

Fordham probably has more academically rigorous offerings than other schools. This, in turn, requires better discipline and time-management by student athletes.  At a lot of schools that DO offer engineering, you don't usually see many engineers playing varsity sports, because the academic time demands make devoting sufficient time to sports. The relative few who handle both are usually exceptionally disciplined time managers.

We've had 3 basketball players graduate with eligibility left in the last two years, and at least one more likely to do so this year. That suggests we're attracting the right kind of students as athletes, and that our academic support programs are working well. Hoops hasn't had academic ineligibilities for several years.  Our admissions office is discerning; the academics, once you're in are relatively demanding. I don't see Fordham changing that for athletics. We are who we are.
19  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Another stupid poll on: May 10, 2017, 03:23:07 pm
Should have included another choice which is "constantly bitching in a semi-anonymous forum to the same 100 diehards is most likely to lead to a new facility."

This could actually work if one of the die-hards was extremely wealthy.

Don't look at me.
20  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: MANNY SUAREZ 44 on: May 09, 2017, 04:59:34 pm
Excellent, good work by Manny. Hope he has a good year. Enjoy Omaha. No, seriously!
21  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Tre Evans Commits to Fordham on: May 09, 2017, 12:18:04 pm
This isn't having an opinion it's being an .....  This is from the guy who complains about the board not creating interest in Fordham basketball.  If you can't post about a recruit without this pedantic lame comment maybe it's time to hit the road.  



You seem to have failed to complete a thought, there.

Look, I've been involved with Fordham far longer than you, and only want the best for my alma mater. I talk the school up anywhere I can, and back up my words with financial support. I donated to the new Law School building because, let's face it, we needed it. I'll donate to a new gym, student center, science building, etc., for the same reason. There should be nothing wrong with that. And if a failure to devote adequate resources to a University activity causes that activity to suffer, there is absolutely nothing wrong with pointing that out. It's how campaigns get started.  I'm glad young Mr. Evans committed here, and both welcomed him and congratulated the staff when his signing was announced.

They're called aspirations, and they're good things to have.
22  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: A10 Talent Level: 1996-Present on: May 09, 2017, 07:20:31 am
Good luck, Jahshire.
23  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Tre Evans Commits to Fordham on: May 08, 2017, 08:41:42 pm
I am not comparing the basketball virtues of Kansas, UNC, Duke, etc to those of Fordham. I am pointing out that you make it seem like an impossible task to convince a kid to come to Fordham. That is simply not true.

You have to factor in parents' perceptions, too.  A 17- or 18-year old kid is thinking about playing ball, and probably doesn't have a lot of background on schools and their histories. It can be quite different for the parents. Fordham is in NYC, it's an older "Eastern Establishment" school, with a good academic reputation. For a lot of folks in the middle and Western part of the country, having their kids "go East" for college can be a big thing. Obviously,  our facilities don't help recruiting. But when the whole family is involved in the decision (as was apparently the case for young Mr. Evans), other aspects of the institution get brought into sharper, arguably more proper, focus. Parents' aspirations for their kids are likely more far-reaching than the kids' focus.
24  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Tre Evans Commits to Fordham on: May 08, 2017, 12:17:58 pm
So, would it appear that Evans is the replacement for AA on the depth chart? Is good enough to come aboard and start right away?
25  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Recruiting Update on: May 08, 2017, 12:58:09 am
Buckner came in when we were still in the MAAC. He is class of 93.

I stand corrected. Still, a good player from the Lone Star State.
26  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Recruiting Update on: May 07, 2017, 11:31:29 pm
Daryl Brown's son is a sophomore at Jesuit High School in Dallas

Offer now.

If I recall, Texas didn't let its players compete in AAU ball, which made it easier to find a hidden gem or late bloomer there. When we were in the PL, Nick reached down to Texas for some surprisingly good players (Hunter, Buckner, Mack). Don't know if the Texas players still can't play AAU, but it's a big state and apparently some kids aren't focused just on football.
27  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Recruiting Update on: May 07, 2017, 06:49:52 pm
Looking at the elevation,perhaps we should start recruiting the kid.
28  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Tre Evans Commits to Fordham on: May 07, 2017, 06:48:54 pm

I did have one thought about that HS gym he was playing in, but I'll keep it to myself.
29  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Tre Evans Commits to Fordham on: May 07, 2017, 05:19:34 pm
Welcome, Tre! Congratulations, staff!
30  Water Cooler / Food & Drink / Re: Have you ever eaten at POTS Soup Kitchen on Webster Ave? - Consider it! on: May 06, 2017, 03:10:57 pm
Nice short article about Arthur Avenue on cnn.com:

http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/05/foodanddrink/arthur-avenue-little-italy-bronx-food-tour/index.html
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