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1  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Why the RHG is to be Named for McGlaughlin on: August 18, 2017, 12:11:30 am
This is like getting a tattoo that says "Mediocre" on one bicep and "Incompetent" on the other.
2  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: San Jose State to hire Jean Prioleau as head coach on: August 15, 2017, 11:40:08 pm
Jean's coaching at a large state school that's not the state's flagship school (Cal). And there are other state schools (UCLA, SDSU) with higher profiles. While we at Fordham like to think that state schools dump unlimited funds on their colleges' athletic programs, that's not true. While I think you'll find the taxpayers have built SJSU a decent facility. you're likely to find that the operating budget is no greater than Fordham's, and likely a lot less. Jean's going from a state flagship to a school in the California State U. system -- a cut below the University of California system -- and will face institutional constraints from Day 1.  That being said, SJSU is an attractive school in a happening city. He will either tap into local private funds to build the team into a power, or, as someone said above, "take two NCAA appearances" and call his agent.

One can do it. I remember watching Fresno State win the NIT in the Garden years ago. Not sure if that was when Tarkanian coached them, or after, but they clearly had something going, and a HUGE group of fans who'd made the cross-country trek.

Good luck to Jean. He's certainly paid his dues and earned his shot.
3  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: San Jose State to hire Jean Prioleau as head coach on: August 13, 2017, 08:15:00 pm
SJSU is a challenging position. Any program whose coaching vacancy is getting filled in August would by definition have to be. Jean's spent a couple of decades coaching in the Midwest and West, he goes into the position eyes open and with some knowledge of what needs to be done. Does anyone who knows Jean really think he's going in there without a plan?

It's a state school that's not the flagship, and gets limited funding (sort of like when UNCC was in the A-10, and we compared their funding to UNC's). But it's in the heart of the capital of Silicon Valley, there's a whole bunch of corporate money there, and I think Jean means to build the program up with external resources. Remember, he was a physics major. He's going to be able to speak to these folks on their own terms.
4  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: San Jose State to hire Jean Prioleau as head coach on: August 11, 2017, 11:50:22 pm
I dunno. Good school, right in the capital of Silicon Valley, attractive conference with good rivalries. Hasn't had much recent success, but there's a lot of material to work with. It's up to Jean. Let's see who he brings in as assistants. One thing, he won't get out-worked.
5  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Recruiting Update on: August 08, 2017, 10:34:25 am
6' 6" SG Adrien Nunez will visit Fordham today. Was at St. Joe's yesterday. Class of 2018.

Out of Bishop Loughlin? As I recall, had excellent academics. If he'd half as good as our last player out of Loughlin . . .
6  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: San Jose State to hire Jean Prioleau as head coach on: August 06, 2017, 08:30:07 pm
Congratulations to San Jose State on a superb hire. Congratulations to Jean, who I am sure will make everyone proud.

SJSU is a good school. My niece interviewed a couple of years ago for a coaching spot in women's basketball, and came away impressed by the school's facilities and personnel.
7  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Why the RHG is to be Named for McLaughlin on: August 02, 2017, 09:51:04 pm
The hospitality suite will be built on the side behind the team benches. The original design illustrations showed it on the McGinley Center side of the RHG.



I thought the original design illustrations went missing in Paris. Oh, wait, that was for an actual new gym . . .
8  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Recruiting Update on: July 27, 2017, 10:40:19 am
Guess we know where Ali Ton is spending the summer, huh?
9  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Recruiting Update on: July 24, 2017, 03:17:55 pm
  I'm hoping for a successful season as usual. 

"The "as usual" refers to your hoping, I assume?
10  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Recruiting Update on: July 20, 2017, 12:44:32 pm
I remember hearing that towards the end of his recruitment, when he was playing very well in AAU ball, several A-10 teams tried to get involved but we pretty much had him locked up.

And thank heavens for that. One of my top 10 all time Ram favorites.
11  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Recruiting Update on: July 18, 2017, 12:37:07 pm
Sneaky good would make next season a real treat. One thing to recall is that with line-to-line coaching of JN's caliber, you can't just evaluate the team on what I'd call the "on paper" talent/recruiting evaluations. With the previous coach, those evaluations pretty much constituted the top line.

As for the local/foreign angle, I've decided I don't care. Years ago, when Fordham was a more regional university, bringing in a student-athlete from far away often carried a high risk that the kids would get homesick and transfer out. For a lot of them, it was their first time away from home, first trip on a plane, etc.,  and the only quick communication, long-distance phoning, was prohibitively expensive for most. Now, with email, social media, facetime, etc., not so much, and most kids have done a whole bunch of traveling before getting to college. So I think the "homesick risk" is largely dissipated.

And, as we know from some hard experience, sometimes the locals come with their posses, AAU handlers, little league parents, and all manner of other distractions a coach and a program can do without. Recruit the player, not his hometown.
12  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Recruiting Update on: July 17, 2017, 11:05:10 pm
6' 5" Class of 2018 Stepinac wing guard Alan Griffin, who has been offered by Fordham, is blowing up in AAU ball playing for the New York Rens. Seton Hall, St. John's, Alabama, Miami and others are now expressing interest.



And so Fordham bids farewell to 6'5" Class of 2018 Stepinac wing guard Alan Griffin . . .
13  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Recruiting Update on: July 17, 2017, 06:49:43 pm
I Problem is the successful schools bring in the talent to supplement their roster. We are looking for the foreign talent as a base. Its going to be a challenge regardless.

Good point.  Another point to process is "how bad has Fordham's talent level been?" We've sort of assumed that, because of the lousy W-L records, we must have lousy talent. Might not have been so true, it might have been a matter of bad coaching. JN got a lot more out of Pecora's talent than Pecora himself ever did.
14  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Recruiting Update on: July 17, 2017, 10:25:15 am
#3 is huge!

I would be awfully curious to hear what Tom Pecora would say now about his experience recruiting at Fordham. He came in very confident, but for the most part the recruiting left a bit to be desired aside from some exceptions which were big recruiting coups irrespective of whether they panned out or not.

Well, I'm curious to hear it, too, and recruits may very well hear it now that Tom's an assistant at Quinnipiac. I don't know if we'll go head-to-head with Quinny for many recruits, but Pecora will now be working with a modern 4,000 seat facility to sell, a lower-pressured academic environment, and a lot of inside knowledge about the Fordham experience. As folks will recall, Tom recruited a sizeable number of kids to Fordham, and a relatively high percentage of them transferred out. Hmm . . . .
15  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Recruiting Update on: July 17, 2017, 09:47:36 am
Well, a few things, just to engender discussion:

1. Fordham historically did a lot of recruiting out of NYC area high schools, and it seems that the talent levels there have dropped, for demographic and other reasons. Even Tom Pecora, who'd made his bones on recruiting the City and environs, found himself going outside the immediate area for recruits (Rochester, Boston, Montreal, to name a few destinations). And, for the talent remaining in NYC area high schools, the pool is being extensively fished.

2. A lot of the elite players get siphoned off into prep schools (a goodly number of them in New Jersey) where we haven't historically had much clout (despite having some alumni in these schools' coaching ranks).

3. We are disfavored by academic pressures, recent low success levels, and (dare I say) facilities issues.  These are well known among area players, and are used by a lot of rival coaches as "oppo".

4. Our current head coach and his assistants did not have a profile of recruiting the area in the years before coming to Rose Hill. Mike DePaoli is young. We might be suffering a "fish out of water" phenomenon, to some extent.

5. Factors 1 through 4 are greatly diminished, if not eliminated altogether, when we go after foreign recruits.
16  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Ivan Raut signs with Fordham on: July 14, 2017, 12:30:48 am
Looks like next year turns on (1) injuries and (2) coaching. And I'm not worried about the coaching.
17  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: JaVontae Hawkins signs pro basketball contract in Finland on: July 14, 2017, 12:26:16 am
Best Wishes for a very successful professional career.

Seconded. This young man played with a lot of verve and heart last year. I wish we'd had him longer.
18  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Recruiting Update on: July 14, 2017, 12:10:45 am
Agreed, but it seems that JN is trying to emulate programs like Gonzaga and St. Mary's, which found themselves bumping up against Power 5 programs for local recruits, but which built through a system of international recruits (and domestic redshirts). "It's a bold strategy, Cotton, let's see how it works out for them!"
19  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Ivan Raut signs with Fordham on: July 13, 2017, 12:00:27 am
Durability is a bit of an intangible. I'm sure we've all seen some amazing athletes undone by his or her body. I suspect next year the Rams will be waging a tough, rough, sometimes dirty battle below the letters rather than above the rim.

Whatever works, eh?
20  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Ivan Raut signs with Fordham on: July 12, 2017, 12:47:34 pm
Welcome, Ivan.
21  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Rothstein's A-10 Offseason Notebook on: July 10, 2017, 09:44:57 pm
Any hints?  Big?  Overseas?

A Turkish kid named Stai Tooned.
22  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Rothstein's A-10 Offseason Notebook on: July 10, 2017, 11:34:18 am
You are forgetting Tre Evans.

I stand corrected. But he's just one addition. We lost three starters from a 19-loss team.

I'm not saying we'll stink -- there's certainly a chance of that if we get bitten by the injury bug again -- but we'll need big improvements from 3 or 4 returnees to make any noise in the conference this year. I guess we'll know better when practice starts.
23  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Rothstein's A-10 Offseason Notebook on: July 10, 2017, 11:20:19 am
Yeah, well, lose 3 starters, recruit no replacements, then your entire recruiting haul consists of two kids who slumped in their sophomore seasons in the MAAC and at the bottom of the Big East, and who won't be available until the 2018-19 season -- yeah, hard to generate much preseason excitement with that.
24  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: DePaul transfer Erten Gazi has committed to Fordham, per a source. on: June 29, 2017, 12:30:05 pm

As noted, you can't necessarily go by his turkish highlights (that sounds like Peter Graves in Airplane: "Have you ever seen Turkish highlights, Billy?"). 

LOL. Thanks for brightening my day.  A lot of well-taken points here. When Dunston was signed, it was "yeah, but he plays in the lower division of the CHSAA". Mandel's signing was greeted by "who?"  Even Christian Sengfelder's signing was viewed with skepticism, since he signed late and wasn't heralded here.  As for the comparisons of Gazi to Mo Curtis, from one's keyboard to God's monitor.

What I do like about the recent signings is that we're getting some length on our guards, which is important in the A-10. In years past, we had lots of guards listed as 6-2, or 6-0, who were probably an inch or two shorter, and who had trouble with the physicality of A-10 play.

Remember, coaches are sort of betting their jobs when they sign kids. JN and Co. appear, at least, to be clear-eyed about the talent level needed to compete in the A-10, and he's placed a big emphasis on athleticism in his recruits.
25  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: DePaul transfer Erten Gazi has committed to Fordham, per a source. on: June 28, 2017, 10:23:53 am
Give JN a blow for the first year recruiting. But -- here's the concern -- the past two seasons, we've extended dozens of offers to domestic HS and prep players, and received a single acceptance (Ohams).
26  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: DePaul transfer Erten Gazi has committed to Fordham, per a source. on: June 27, 2017, 01:01:58 pm
Welcome, Erten!  [Now hit the gym!]

I assume Coach Ton evaluated him over his work in Europe as much as his time at DePaul. Does anyone know if he was recruited to DePaul by Dave Leitao, or had already committed when Leitao was hired? That might have been a factor in his usage there.

Like most folks, I'm on Cloud Five about this news. Hopefully, a new program, different system, additional year of maturity all combine to make a difference when he's ready to step on the court for us. Hopefully.
27  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Joe Chartouny on: June 23, 2017, 04:15:18 pm
Did not get drafted last night

He had withdrawn from the draft, no?
28  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: All time best Fordham Starting five on: June 22, 2017, 01:09:41 pm
Jack spent a couple of years in the Mets system, got as high as AA:

http://www.baseball-reference.com/register/player.fcgi?id=burik-001joh

Returned to his hometown and became a respected teacher and coach. A regular Doc Graham.
29  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Recruiting Update on: June 14, 2017, 02:07:23 pm
Hey, my firm opened a Seattle office this year and we're loving it! It's a great town.
30  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Recruiting Update on: June 13, 2017, 05:08:58 pm

Key Arena's an aging albatross in a bad location that needs a bunch of maintenance. My niece coached at Seattle U., and it's basically Izod Center West at this point. UDub grabs all the attention in that town, and Seattle U's conference will never generate enough interest to make a dent in filling that place.

That being said, RHG is inadequate in too many ways to count.
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