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1  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: All time best Fordham Starting five on: Yesterday at 01:49:06 pm
I'm shocked.  Greene does not even come close to giving a team what Herzog could.

Greene was one of my favorite players to watch. His athleticism was off the charts. I agree that I wouldn't include him in a top 5 though.
2  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Football / Re: Greg Marmaros on: May 25, 2017, 04:23:33 pm
Just learned that Greg Marmaros will be leaving his position as Director of Football Operations to accept a job with the Patriots. Greg was always approachable and willing to share information on the program and players ( when appropriate!). I can only hope his replacement is as competent and professional.

Best wishes to Greg in his new job

I spoke to Greg briefly this morning and I'm really sorry to see him go, but obviously very excited for his new position. He's been a major asset to this program and did a ton of stuff behind the scenes. We'll definitely miss him but I'm confident we'll find a good replacement.
3  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: All time best Fordham Starting five on: May 25, 2017, 11:08:51 am
Started watching in 03...

Dunston
Gaston
Pashcall
Stout
J-Rock


4  The Fordham Forums / All Other Fordham Rams' Sports / Re: Coach Gaitley Signs 2 Year Extension on: May 25, 2017, 09:14:20 am
Good for her. She's done a tremendous job. I'm trying to figure out why she's still here. She's had to have had offers.

I had the same thought when I saw this headline. She must be happy, and I 'm glad she's interested in sticking around.
5  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Disappointed ! on: May 19, 2017, 12:51:27 pm
  If the late additions are not an improvement over that group, it would be a disappointment.

What's wrong with Havsa and Slanina? Slanina has the size and athleticism to be a big time player for us. May take another year but he'll get there.
6  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Disappointed ! on: May 19, 2017, 12:49:19 pm
We cant attract a "single American" ?   Antowine Portley is American, so is Tre Evans.  So is Hicks.

and last year: Ohams, Taveras and Hawk.
7  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Disappointed ! on: May 19, 2017, 11:25:52 am
I was one of the first to call attention to the lack of "coaching" by Pecora.  However, he was able to get "local" players.  Local in this sense means NY and NJ.  Recall the following:
                                       Ryan Rhooms
                                       Chris Gaston
                                       Brandon Frazier
                                       Mandell Thomas
                                       A. Anderson
                                       Jon Severe
                                       B. Smith
                                       Eric Pascall
Some of these individuals worked out fine and others, not so much.  The point being that there was some local recruiting. Now-???

Id challenge how many of these guys are "locals." Anderson and Thomas were from so far upstate that they might as well be Canadian.
8  The Fordham Forums / All Other Fordham Rams' Sports / Re: Baseball Gets Improbable Win on: May 18, 2017, 09:47:45 am
I believe we need a sweep and help in order to make the playoffs. Not impossible but definitely improbable. St. Bonnies is a good team this year and we're playing on their turf. Likely senior day too.
9  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Football / Re: Memorial Field stadium on: May 18, 2017, 09:29:59 am
Let's do some serious improvements... and learn from a DIII university in Southern California.  They have a beautiful little 1 sided stadium, and they lack a future worthy STEM building.

They're halfway through construction on a 140,000 Sq ft STEM center..... with a covered set of bleachers integrated beautifully into the north side of the building!  The bleachers are cost a rounding error within the $100,000,000 growth engine STEM strategy.

The details and visuals are in this linked article.

Let's  hire their President.

https://blogs.chapman.edu/happenings/2016/04/08/chapman-to-break-ground-for-new-center-for-science-and-technology/

We don't need to look that far. The Jesuits should give the Marianist Brothers a call and ask them if anyone is up to the job. There is a large contingency of them about 40 minutes from the Bronx.
10  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Recruiting Update on: May 17, 2017, 09:45:13 am
I was questioned on here when I said we should offer Jordan Gaitley at Prep, coach's son. 

I think he wound up being 1st team All State and "A" NYC Player of the Year.

He wound up getting an offer from Richmond, which he accepted.

Smart kid; excellent shooter.  Our loss.



We wouldn't need to waste a scholarship on him. He would've went to Fordham for free.
11  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Football / Re: Memorial Field stadium on: May 16, 2017, 04:29:43 pm
Thanks to RealDeal and others the JCF Renovation which was a real renovation is now stuck 10+ years in mothballs after much work was accomplished and spent with designs, drafts and architecual volunteer's time

Want to expand on that?
12  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Football / Re: Memorial Field stadium on: May 16, 2017, 03:32:19 pm
Seems like the point is lost on you again.  Why not keep the option of an off-campus game on the table?   It has nothing to do with improving JCF, which we all agree needs to happen. My last attempt of using logic.

no-one is saying to keep it off the table... we're saying playing any games in Mt. Vernon is a bad idea. Do you understand the difference?
13  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Fordham’s Joseph Chartouny to Declare for NBA Draft on: May 16, 2017, 08:55:00 am
Congrats to Joe.  I don't think this means he's definitely leaving but good for him to get a workout with a great franchise.

https://twitter.com/brookwoodelite/status/864187355623702528


Brookwood Elite‏
@brookwoodelite 
Besst of luck to alum Joseph Chartouny as he goes through the #NBAdraft process.
Will be working out for the Boston Celtics.



I think its much more than anyone here expected.
14  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Recruiting Update on: May 15, 2017, 01:19:58 pm
I agree with you that he is wait and see but I feel likepeople aren't even mentioning his name in rotations.  The guy is 6'7 athletic and has shown signs of being able to shoot, although not consistently.  Just wasn't sure if he was playing through the injury to start the year and then shut it down when he realized it was affecting his game too much.

That was my thought... does anyone know when he got hurt? I'm not sure if this has been discussed or not.
15  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Football / Re: Memorial Field stadium on: May 14, 2017, 09:46:34 pm
Talk about not making sense (reading comprehension is key).  No one said we should play all our games at a bigger facility.  Should we also not play any basketball games at MSG, or a like venue, because we can't fill the RHG on a consistent basis?

1. This has nothing to do with basketball
2. Did you really compare playing FCS FB at a stadium in Mt Vernon to Playing A-10 basketball at MSG?
3. Stick to your FB predictions.... oh wait...I guess Navy was pretty good last year (9-5, 7-1)...
16  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Softball / Re: A10 Softball Playoffs Starting Wed 3/10 on: May 14, 2017, 08:15:54 pm
Five in a row... wow... absolutely dominate. Congrats to the women!
17  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Football / Re: Memorial Field stadium on: May 14, 2017, 07:16:44 pm
im still amazed at the division 3 mentality that many on this board and in the administration have

You're not making any sense. There's just little benefit to moving games off campus. We do not even sell out JCF every week. Why in gods name would we look to move to a bigger facility? We could ABSOLUTELY use an upgrade on campus, but moving to Mt Vernon is not a good idea.
18  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Football / Re: Memorial Field stadium on: May 14, 2017, 12:58:22 pm
Agreed. The idea of an FBS coming to us is a pipe dream, in my opinion.

Either way, still need to upgrade JCF because that would be our regular home.

Wouldn't even call it a pipe dream. Fantasy world. We play FBS schools for the money. There's other reasons of course but that's a massive factor. No one is going to pay us to play an away game. I don't get the obsession with moving FB games of campus unless it's a rare event like HC. Rare... not once a season... maybe once every 5 years or more.
19  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Football / Re: Memorial Field stadium on: May 13, 2017, 10:49:23 pm
Oh no we don't want to inconvenience the Dozens of students who go to the games. Rather than watch a game against Elizabeth city state ar a field with one side of bleachers , i think a 20k stadium against a good opponent would be worth a 20 min shuttle

You're Way off.. when we do sell out we have a big crowd from the students. I'm as bullish as they come when it comes to this program but a 20k stadium? Are you nuts? We can barely handle 8k. There's absolutely no reason to move off campus. Part of the experience is to be on campus... that's the point.
20  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Football / Re: Memorial Field stadium on: May 13, 2017, 07:48:47 pm
I would hope we wouldn't think twice about moving off campus. I don't see the benefit... I doubt MORE people would go to a FB Game off campus. I suspect we'd lose students. Seems like a terrible idea. Pass
21  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Why the RHG is to be Named for McGlaughlin on: May 12, 2017, 11:34:05 am
Feel free to admire Frank for being a loyal soldier and a good man, however after decades of declining athletic performance and no meaningful advancement in facilities it is clear that even Frank should have questioned if AD was a job he was good at, the rest of us sure did

Making excuses and accepting the status quo is what has gotten us into this mess

There is no need to immortalize failure by naming the court after Frank

Loyal Soldier? That implies that he stuck by Fordham. I think of it the other way around... Fordham stuck by Frank despite decades of losing.
22  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Why the RHG is to be Named for McGlaughlin on: May 12, 2017, 09:41:19 am
We all seem to be in agreement that this is a bad idea. Let me offer an alternative . RHG needs a bathroom. During Frank's tenure the bball program was mostly in the toilet. A perfect match.

There a few bathrooms in the RHG... none of them are made available to the public though!
23  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Academic standards and athletics success on: May 12, 2017, 09:32:25 am
Because it's in the student's best interests long term.  On the assumption that there isn't an NBA contract and shoe money waiting for him if and when he graduates, a player needs to have that education to "fall back" on.  The whole idea of a core curriculum is to force you to take courses you might not otherwise.  It's the job of a good advisor to not just cater to a student's whim, but to advise them on all their options, especially the ones the student might not have thought of.

Now, I know this might come as a shock to you, but many advisors essentially work for the athletic department (no matter what they might claim otherwise).  When I hear a lot of athletes take the easy tracks, it makes me wonder how many really wanted that, and how many might have wanted something else but got steered because non-demanding tracks work great for the coaches.  When you make academics a priority you put the students first.  Advisors are more likely to not steer and to actually help the student to a place they might not otherwise go.  For example, Denzel was encouraged to try out for theater by an informal advisor (his girlfriend).  I hear that worked out well for him.  How many athletes could similarly benefit from such advice?

you're way off when it comes to Fordham. Again - its not my concern nor is it my business what a student or student athlete does academically at Fordham. Fordham does everything they can to put their SA's in a position to succeed but the level of academic success is up to the student. Aside from everything else I mentioned, there are mentorship programs, job fairs and just about everything and anything else they need.  There's a massive network of alumns that will help them with resumes, do practice interviews and help them land jobs/internships. It's a selling point to recruits. We have a fantastic network for these kids to take advantage of. Its up to them to make that commitment.

24  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Academic standards and athletics success on: May 11, 2017, 05:49:49 pm
Yes, we should care.  That's the whole Jesuit education thing.  Remember "cura personalis" - care for the whole person?  Assuming it's not an empty marketing slogan it suggests that Fordham accepts a higher responsibility than just accepting registration forms and putting all the responsibility on the student to just figure it all out.  That is on top of the increased obligation a college takes on (whether they want it or not is irrelevant) to provide extra resources and guidance if the student they accept is below average, and that obligation increases the more below average the student is.  

Some people such as 85 say that some players have apparently found it onerous to have "advisors, study hall, academic pressures" (you know, that goal of actually graduating and maybe even doing well in their classes beyond just staying eligible).  If we were to actually NOT offer those advisors, study halls, and have "academic pressures" (i.e. expectations they will do well), that just makes it all the more important that Fordham be admitting only those players who have proven they can do academic work at the Fordham level and keep up.




Not sure why we should care about the students commitment outside of staying eligible. It's their choice how much they want to dedicate to their studies.

Stay eligible and win baby!
25  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Academic standards and athletics success on: May 11, 2017, 05:47:48 pm
Sure, but that is Fordham level (and schools at our level) easy.  And those type of majors only help so much b/c at a school like Fordham (and countless others), there are a lot of requirements outside of your major and they are not classes with a hundred or more people in them where you can hide.

Yes, I agree completely.
26  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Academic standards and athletics success on: May 11, 2017, 04:36:15 pm
This sums it up fairly well, in my opinion. We can't really hide student-athletes the way some schools can, but we are not the only school that has to deal with that. I think several in the A10 face similar circumstances.



Communications and Marketing were VERY POPULAR among the FB and BBall team when I was there. It's not a very challenging major - no offense to any comm or marketing majors. It is what you want it to be. Plenty of tough courses within those majors but you can skate through those majors if you want to.
27  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Academic standards and athletics success on: May 11, 2017, 01:36:31 pm
Academic Commitment?

All I care about is if they pass their classes and remain eligible. Should we care about anything more than that?

The players have everything the need to pass and to do well. Its up to them how far they want to take it. Study Halls, tutors, advisors that will build your schedule around practice/games and find the teachers that are best suited for the students.

28  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Why the RHG is to be Named for McGlaughlin on: May 11, 2017, 11:51:33 am
Gents in my discussion with a member of Fordham U regarding the decision to remove Chic Fil A from campus which I find totally disheartening since we ARE a Jesuit University and should be supportive of Christian values, but I am off topic.

The Alumni who donated all the money to refurbish the gym are close friends of Frank M and did did it on the condition   that the gym be renamed for Frank. I would have told them to keep their money.  I also told this individual he should read this forum to see that there are many Alumni who are extremely unhappy with the direction the University has taken regarding sports. He was very understanding.  I truly believe until we get new leadership that understands the symbiotic relationship between sports and academics we will never get near to becoming "The preeminent Catholic University" in the country.

Chic isn't being removed from campus. They were never here.
29  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Recruiting Update on: May 11, 2017, 10:52:15 am
Can we handle taking on two players that need to sit a year? I'm not opposed to it necessarily, but I would think we need 2 more bodies to help the rotation THIS YEAR.. unless JN thinks Pekarek has the ability to do that.
30  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: MANNY SUAREZ 44 on: May 09, 2017, 05:44:47 pm
I am on a crusade against people making stuff up. There are plenty of legitimate issues but this is complete garbage.  Like every other new coach he met with Suarez told him his place on the depth chart going into the season.  Same meeting happened with Anderson. That is not trying to get someone to leave. Suarez could have stayed but he wanted guaranteed playing time so he left.  Those are the facts.  Accept it. 

Not going to accept anything. Your rock solid account of the private conversation Manny had with JN was a short post from the players mother. To accept that she laid it all of the details and the tone of the conversation is silly.  I'm not opposed to a coach encouraging a player to look elsewhere. It's part of the game unfortunately. I'm also not opposed to players transferring. That too is part of the game.
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