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1  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Football / Re: I truly Believe Chase Edmonds Plays on Sundays on: Yesterday at 10:49:47 pm
Chase is a Hall of Fame DVD player but doesn't have the 5th gear for the NFL

Plenty of RBs in the league right now that don't have the breakaway speed.

He's not my scout. He is part of the Broncos organization and I made it very clear that it was a pre-season grade. I'd stand it up against your Odom/DE claims though  Cry
2  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Football / Re: I truly Believe Chase Edmonds Plays on Sundays on: Yesterday at 10:48:21 pm
NFL teams are not in the habit of using high draft picks on injury prone , undersized ,patriot league running backs. It matters

Injury prone? How do you figure? explain that to me please.
3  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Football / Re: I truly Believe Chase Edmonds Plays on Sundays on: Yesterday at 04:48:01 pm
Couldnt stay healthy in the patriot league and you're comparing him to sproles who was an all American in the big 12 and an NFL all pro... let's just hope he gets a look and makes the most of it but there are dozens and dozens of running backs playing at a much higher level that would tear up the patriot league so let's see what happens

Rolling an ankle can happen on any level. Your point about his injury and the patriot league is moot.

I have it on good authority that he was grading out as a 2/3 rd pick this preseason. That's obviously going to change after this year but a good pro day can help his chances. 10 weeks ago I would've said he'd definitely be drafted. I'm not so sure now BUT I do think he'll definitely be on a roster post draft. It'll be up to him at that time to earn his roster spot. There are some truly atrocious rbs on NFL rosters right now. Teams like to roster 3-5 RBs so there's opportunity out there. If he can return punts that'll be a big plus too.
4  The Fordham Forums / All Other Fordham Rams' Sports / Re: Mens NCAA tourney Soccer tonight 7pm JCF on: November 17, 2017, 10:20:33 am
Great Stuff - love to see all of our teams succeed. Onto the next one!
5  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Fordham vs. Florida State (Montego Bay) - 11/17/17 on: November 15, 2017, 12:51:08 pm
Seminoles  88    Rams  66

Hoping for better but Chuba has come out of the gate very slowly and we will need the bigs on floor and contributing.

Stay away from the meat patties.

Beef Patties, designer sunglasses, and anything at all that looks like Oregano.
6  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Football / Re: Should Coach Breiner be on the "Hot Seat" on: November 15, 2017, 12:49:08 pm
AB is blaming the lack of good tailgating facilities for their not being able to stop the run.

AOC you never answered my question on whether or not you think its a good idea to essentially force a new staff on AB? Curious to see if you think its a smart move, or if it could really work.
7  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Football / Re: Should Coach Breiner be on the "Hot Seat" on: November 15, 2017, 09:21:39 am
Survivor Series is on Sunday. Shane O Mac v. Kurt Angle. Anyone want to tailgate SS in my driveway?
8  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Fordham vs. Florida State (Montego Bay) - 11/17/17 on: November 14, 2017, 10:44:32 am
I read that guy's ACC preview last couple of years.

Florida State, as usual, is huge, athletic and deep, although a lot of the time their 7'+ guys aren't exactly the most mobile.  They lost Rathan-Mayes, Bacon and Isaac, as well as Ojo and Jarquez Smith, but return plenty of bodies.  But I don't think C.J. Walker or Trent Forrest are particularly good as point guards.  They do have a couple of excellent shooters in PJ Savoy and Brian Angola-Rhodes.  MJ Walker is a top recruit, and Obiagu and Gray are fairly well thought of recruits, too.

They will go 11-12 deep, with two 7'-ers, Koumadje at 7'4" and Obiagu 7'.  Terrence Mann and Cofer are 2 older glue guys.  Hamilton I think is a decent coach, but more of the let them play variety, and he doesn't seem to get the most out of his teams.  They can get some big wins, lose some inexplicable games, and never go far in the NCAAs when they get there.  Last year and 2012 being years they had good teams that didn't do much in the tourney.  They won the ACC tournament in 2012 and were ranked 10th but lost to Cincy.  Last year they got up to #6 but got blown out by Xavier.  In 15 years under Hamilton they have been to one Sweet 16.

I'm not sure MJ Walker is going to step right out and be a go to scorer, and their new points may not be ready.  Their main thing is just going to be to wear you down with size, strength and speed.  They can crush a team, but also they can be vulnerable.  Last year they lost to Temple (kenpom 118), Pitt (79), Syracuse and Georgia Tech.  Among others.  And that was a really good team. Hofstra beat them in 2016.  That was a decent Hofstra team.  UMass (125), Northeaster and Mississippi St (159) all beat them in 2014-15, the last year before some big classes with Beasley and Bacon and then Isaac.  I think that may be about the level they will be at to start this year.

Last year they were 41st in turnovers per possession.  Pretty good, and for them very good.  But that was with Rathan-Mayes as a junior pg.  The year before they were 161st.  And in 2015 they were awful, 335th.  Rathan-Mayes wasn't a point coming out of high school, and he struggled at first in that area.  So they may be ripe for the picking, as it were.  Although we also don't want to get into an up and down with these guys.  It'll be interesting to see how Neubauer sets the D.

Their first game will be on the 14th against GW.  So we will get to see them against a familiar squad first.      

So you're saying there's a chance?!
9  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Football / Re: Should Coach Breiner be on the "Hot Seat" on: November 14, 2017, 08:59:49 am
It was in reply to AOC who was saying we needed to bring in old school assistants.

This is what I was going back to.
Also said partially in jest b/c I know AOC thinks very highly of Argast.

Argast was my o-line coach for 1 season and was definitely a great positional coach. The Guy could also pack a lip. Horseshoe style. Didn't want to stand too close when he was angry cause tobacco was flying everywhere!
10  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Football / Re: Should Coach Breiner be on the "Hot Seat" on: November 14, 2017, 08:42:02 am
All this talk of firing our coaches and national searches to hire the next hot coach and This if who you come up with? A journeyman offensive line coach from the northeast.

I think this was definitely in reference to hiring him as a position coach, not the next HC.
11  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Fordham vs. LIU Brooklyn Pre-Game/Game Thread 11/13/17 on: November 13, 2017, 07:24:09 pm
Came here to see if it was my internet. I should've known it wasn't.
12  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Football / Re: Should Coach Breiner be on the "Hot Seat" on: November 13, 2017, 04:22:19 pm
Yes

What's the point? Do you think that's actually a good idea?
13  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Football / Re: Should Coach Breiner be on the "Hot Seat" on: November 13, 2017, 04:06:10 pm
If AB is going to be retained, which I am not for by the way, I agree, I think this is the only way to go.  The individual coaches under AB have failed miserably.  A national search for these coaches,
at least, should be implemented getting the best people to help AB that are available to a program like Fordham's.  I think Roach should insist as a condition to keep AB if that is the decision.

I think a move like this is a recipe for disaster. If we're going to keep a coach "with conditions" we should just move on. One of the issues we've pointed out this season is that he's had a ton of turnover at the assistant level. Are we going to essentially bring in a new staff, and potentially force/encourage him to hire certain people he wouldn't have otherwise brought in?

14  The Fordham Forums / All Other Fordham Rams' Sports / Re: Men's Soccer Takes on UMass in Semi Finals on: November 13, 2017, 03:51:49 pm
Very glad to be wrong!! Jim McElderry keeps on getting it done at Fordham!

I think I'd first add it to the list of accomplishments under McElderry. I find it a stretch to put it on the list of Roach's accomplishments.

Yes, you're right. - The credit should go to the coaching staff and players. My point is that we've seen significant improvement from most of our Varsity sports since Roach has taken over.
15  The Fordham Forums / All Other Fordham Rams' Sports / Re: Men's Soccer Takes on UMass in Semi Finals on: November 13, 2017, 02:24:25 pm
We're dancing!

Add this to the list of accomplishments under Roach.

Question - did we need to bid/pay to host this game similar to how it works in the FCS playoffs?

16  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Fordham vs. LIU Brooklyn Pre-Game/Game Thread 11/13/17 on: November 13, 2017, 09:21:10 am
Excited to watch the game tonight. Already forgot that Friday happened!

I feel like JN's teams play up and down to their opponents level. That's not the best quality to have, but I'm also not going to freak out after a bad loss.
17  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Football / Re: Should Coach Breiner be on the "Hot Seat" on: November 13, 2017, 09:13:53 am
As much as it shocks me to say this...I completely agree with Madram's post (in this one instance).  Shocked  Shocked  Shocked

I was on those teams and I was on the field during his last game against Albany. A change was completely warranted. The team was so far lost, we may have ended up in Never-Never Land. It wasn't Foley as much as it was the assistants he brought in. We had players walk off that day. Middle of the game. Bolted. Seniors getting in the coaches faces etc. It was bad. I'd never seen anything like it before and haven't since then.

I'm happy Foley has found success post Fordham. He was a great guy but it just didn't work out.
18  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Football / Re: Football Game Day Experience on: November 13, 2017, 09:10:08 am
I still can't believe the whole Eddie's tailgating thing wasn't a joke. 

+1

19  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Football / Re: Football Game Day Experience on: November 09, 2017, 01:59:31 pm
https://lehighfootballnation.blogspot.com/2017/10/fordham-shows-lehigh-how-to-win.html

food for thought found in an outside perspective:

"As I left Fordham, a campus filled with happy Fordham students and happy Fordham parents and elated Fordham football players, I was filled with dread.

Somehow, Fordham is getting this football thing right.  They are creating a great gameday atmosphere, whether they're 6-2 or 2-6, and coming up with a product that people are excited to watch. The Rams have a neat, old-school stadium that isn't the biggest in the world, but it was a fun place to watch a football game.  The tailgates were open late.  The lot was packed.  The students were all over campus, well after the game had concluded.  Fordham's campus was a neat place to be.  Even the halftime show, featuring "Drums of Thunder", the 4th and 5th grade drumline from Montclair, NJ, had all 8,000 fans or so in attendance on their feet.

And then I think of Lehigh's home game vs. Penn - a similar day in a lot of respects, a hot, beautiful day and a packed campus.

Yet Murray Goodman Stadium saw fewer fans, less charm, and an uneven performance on the field by the home team on that day.  In all three aspects, Fordham's performance outdid Lehigh's on Family Day easily."


... idk, but maybe it's the tent that has to go (never been myself), not the rest? was it really that bad?

 if nothing else, this anecdote serves to confirm why on campus stadiums are so important.



I think Homecoming needs to be fixed, but the tailgating during any other game is fine, and I've always had a lot of fun. You'll need to deal with security guards pestering you to go to the game, but isn't that the reason we are there anyways?
20  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Football / Re: Tailgating Regulations issued on: November 09, 2017, 12:49:06 pm
Must say I like your stories better than your baseball team.  Wink

I did the same thing for my third Homecoming after graduation. Friend and I were walking across Martyrs' field heading to Clarke's (RIP). All of sudden he suggests we visit my old suite from Sophmore year. We stagger up to F House and bang on the door of F-2.

Some kid answers and in my best slurred speech explain that I used to live there and can we come in and take a look. Most people would slam the door and lock it at such a sight, but nope, he summons his other room mates and they invite us in. They bring us beer, order pizza, and gather around while we tell Fordham war stories for an hour or so.

They even took group pictures and had us sign some kind of guest book. This was before cellphones so I have no copies.

We thanked them for a great time and marched on to Clarke's and beyond oblivion.

sometimes the stars align!

We went back the next two years, with the girls from 407-09 (room-graduation year) and struck out both times. The first time it was just a bunch of guys who thought we were crazy, and the second time no-one answered. Oh well!
21  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Football / Re: Tailgating Regulations issued on: November 09, 2017, 09:27:32 am
So just plan another drunk fest where students don't even have to smuggle in alcohol they just have a recent grad bring it in.  Great idea.

It's one game a year. Deal with it. 

I do deal with it and it really doesn't bother me, but it the tent thing clearly sucks. Adults should have to wait online for 20 minutes to get a bud light and a Fordham FB game.

Edit: "smuggle alcohol" seems a bit extreme. Spring Weekend is the only weekend I could remember where you really needed to be careful. Its a good thing vodka is the same color as water!
22  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Football / Re: Football Game Day Experience on: November 09, 2017, 09:14:09 am
Part of me wonders if some people here realize that the tent situation is a Homecoming exclusive. Typical tailgating has been a blast the past 5-6 years.
23  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Football / Re: Tailgating Regulations issued on: November 09, 2017, 09:13:03 am
Two reasons, I believe.

Space limitations because of so many more Homecoming attendees.

So many students potentially tailgating and no real way to control alcohol access.  As Jimbo65 explained, there were a number of incidents with students some years back.  I heard a few others that he didnít mention.  Unfortunately, I think it is a good policy one weekend a year.  Iíd suggest moving tailgating off campus if it returns for homecoming.



Homecoming is nothing compared to Spring Weekend. My friends and I ran a bootlegging operation for those too afraid of the RAs.

The narrative about controlling alcohol consumption on any given day on a wet college campus is just lazy imo. Its an easy excuse. If Fordham was actually concerned about underage drinking, they'd cancel Tuesday, Friday and Saturday nights, Spring Weekend, Halloween, and a slew of other binge-worthy events.
24  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Football / Re: Tailgating Regulations issued on: November 09, 2017, 09:09:10 am
I'm 99% sure tailgating in Lot A now cost $30 per car, rather than $10. Still cost $10 to park in the Lot. When we've had multiple cars with stuff, they allowed us to pull in, empty out the trunk, and then park the secondary cars in the garage.
25  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Football / Re: Tailgating Regulations issued on: November 09, 2017, 09:07:55 am
He never said a word about students.  He mentioned specifically a young alum who passed out in her old dorm room which is awesome. 

Yeah letís have homecoming off campus.  My god this is crazy. 

Simple keep the tent jack up the parking spot fee for the day.  Let people buy a spot on eddies or maybe martyrs if they want to lug their stuff there.

Our second homecoming post graduation was the fall of 2008. We did the tent thing for a bit, did the bar thing, and then decided it would be fun to see who lived in our senior dorm. Walsh 407... No clue how 6 drunk guys made it in (there were nights I couldn't get into Walsh Sr. year...) but we did and we were excited to see that 6 girls now lived in our dorm. We knocked, they didn't answer. We left a note for them to call us... they did.... we showed up with 2 cases and an hour or so later RAs were banging on the door and writing us all up. Yes, they even wrote up the alums - no clue why, but I guess I'm on some sort of watch list now. Anyways, we're still friends with those girls to this day. Was one of the best days/nights in my Fordham memory bank.

407-07-09 was the name of our group chat for years.

Not sure the point of this story, but I love telling it  Grin
26  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Football / Re: Coach Moorhead doing well on: November 08, 2017, 11:03:23 am
Some coaches are screamers, whiners, some calm and collective and many somewhere in between, but what I found most troublesome and concerning was that its was ultra obvious that during his last year the team checked out, he lost the team and he was toast. 



Agreed 100%
27  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Football / Re: Homecoming - Fordham vs. Holy Cross University on: November 08, 2017, 11:01:59 am
Never critical of their new training facility.  I maintain the drag on their program is the trip from campus to the field. It will be interesting to see where it goes when Bagnoli retires again.  Can they sustain?   I do think the newly installed practice bubble mitigates some of the practice issues.   Theyíre re-inventing the program. If you donít see thereís nothing to be learned here, stick to worrying about tailgating.  Once we get that resolved, an FCS championship canít be far behind!

Well as a spectator, game-day experience is the most important to me, so that's what i'll focus on typically. Columbia has sucked and been absolutely miserable for a long time. They literally quit our series because we were smacking them around too much. Throwing money at a problem and building new facilities isn't going to necessarily fix our issues. Our issues go much deeper than a new workout facility, though it is BADLY needed. We've won the PL with three different coaches over the past 15 years or so. Each time a winning coach has left, we've had some major problems followed by some more success. The Masella/Moorhead transition is the exception but as I mentioned in another thread, there were other factors that I believe caused his downfall.
28  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Football / Re: Homecoming - Fordham vs. Holy Cross University on: November 08, 2017, 10:43:43 am
Many times. It is low level football. You still have to spend money to win, whatever the level.

Fairly certain you were highly critical of their facility, especially the location and that its an impossible sell to get kids interested in taking a subway to practice.
29  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: ESPN Insider: A10 Conference Predicted Standings on: November 08, 2017, 10:42:26 am
Giants stink jets are mediocre cowboys play Thursday.  Is this really that bad a day to go to a 2 pm basketball game? Is traffic that bad in the afternoon?   

Probably not, and sounds like a nice way to close out the weekend. However, the Jets are the PERFECT type of mediocre. No-one expected them to be relevant and they're looking at .500 this weekend playing against Fitz and an Evans-less Bucs.

The Jets and Knicks are stealing the show this fall. They're fun to watch and winning games. Knicks are must watch TV right now with KP and his collection of role players playing entertaining basketball.

I'd like to say the biggest issue here is that students wont be there, but we still haven't captured their attention. Hopefully this year that changes. Don't they know going to a college baskball game is a lot of fun? Especially after a 12 pack of natty light?! I'll be happy to give a few tutorials  Grin

30  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Football / Re: Homecoming - Fordham vs. Holy Cross University on: November 08, 2017, 10:35:07 am
If we want a consistent Top 25 program, Fordham needs to look just a few miles west and do what Columbia has done.  While it remains to be seen if Columbia sustains it, the financial commitment and first rate facilities have to be in place to first attract, and then develop players. Thereís no way around it,  especially now that the PL gives scholarships. 

Pass on emulating anything Columbia has done.
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