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1  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: St. Peter's transfer Antwon Portley has committed to Fordham on: Today at 08:10:52 am
If he was coming in after that freshman year it would be a no brainer. But Then again he would probably be a high major target like kiss and Dixon. 14 ppg as a true frosh is impressive. By the time he plays for us he will be 21 and his length and shooting ability are intriguing.  now we need players for next year. Go 🐑S

Stop making sense. 

He's from St. Peter's. Isn't that in the vastly inferior MAAC?  Great

And if he transferred from P5 you would say if he is so good he would not be transferring down likely MAAC level player.

I personally prefer transfers up in conference, note that MAAC fans are bitching that their best underclassman are leaving for higher levels. 
2  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: St. Peter's transfer Antwon Portley has committed to Fordham on: Yesterday at 10:50:13 pm
Looks solid.   Can't judge one guy have to see the whole recruiting class. Still 3 open ships. 
3  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Recruiting Update on: Yesterday at 09:04:25 pm
You got the quote feature wrong.  Twice.
4  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: A10 Incoming/Outgoing List 2017-18 on: Yesterday at 10:02:32 am
Two years under Jeff Neubauer: first winning season in a decade, 15 conference wins, wins over Davidson URI VCU, front end of a 1-1 away from getting to quarter finals A-10 tournament in an injury riddled season and made players better.  7 years before Jeff Neubauer: 20 loss seasons, 14 conference wins combined, 1 road win, no good A-10 wins, players regress, fans get angrier and coaches make excuses as Frank says he does not care if we win. 

Many of us were on the ledge last year when the team turned it around and some of us learned the lesson of let this staff do its job.  They have work to do (which they will readily admit) but they also showed they can move this program forward. Back off let them work show some loyalty to the people working to make this program successful. 
5  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: A10 Incoming/Outgoing List 2017-18 on: April 25, 2017, 09:47:11 pm
Well that settles it the two people who read A-10 talk predicted in April we finish last next year.  Pack it up it's over. 
6  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: A10 Incoming/Outgoing List 2017-18 on: April 25, 2017, 12:48:14 pm
Idiotic comment. That's like saying, Fordham is down at halftime so nuff said, game is over.  Nobody is batting .000 on recruiting until the day the season starts.

Also when we do sign guys we still wont know if it is a good class or not until they step on the floor and play games. 
7  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: A10 Incoming/Outgoing List 2017-18 on: April 25, 2017, 12:45:52 pm
"Numerous misses" ??  Yes... I am not perfect (just ask my wife).... but numerous?  No... I was a big supporter of Chris Bethel...Thought
he should have played more... not alone in that...  Jon Severe?  Yes... I liked him as a player a good deal...just did not work out here at Fordham with the overall cast of players.  Others???  At a loss to recall... The most important thing right now is two weeks into Spring signing period and Fordham is batting .000.  Nuff said..

All you have to do is go back to this year when we were struggling and many others including me and you were talking about giving up, team was unwatchable etc etc.  You were wrong with the rest of us so let the staff do their work because when we all were giving up last year they kept working.  Learn a lesson. 
8  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: A10 Incoming/Outgoing List 2017-18 on: April 25, 2017, 11:31:41 am
General comment:

If you are going to tell us how you were right once almost 10 years ago to bolster your opinion now be sure to mention the numerous misses you had as well.  Reading this board is like listening to some gamblers: telling us all about that time they won cash while forgetting all their losses.   Afro 
9  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Recruiting Update on: April 24, 2017, 10:34:13 pm
Evans father played for Oklahoma and was a high school coach.  Good genes always help. 

http://www.soonerstats.com/basketball/men/players/details.cfm?playerid=106

10  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Recruiting Update on: April 22, 2017, 09:52:14 am
Not to worry.  Disappointing news is always the order of the day here.

You are better than this. Same goes for Richie68.  You are too smart to fall into this garbage narrative of every player that  signs elsewhere is disappointing news.  It's not it's called reality: guys sign elsewhere it happens. 

I am disappointed in the weather as it sucks to play golf in. Now that is disappointing. 
11  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Recruiting Update on: April 22, 2017, 08:44:09 am
He was out the entire 15-16 season with a torn acl.   This article indicates he wanted the ball and to shoot more.  Reading between the lines he and reed did not see eye to eye on his roll.   Good mind set if he has the game to play at this level would be a nice pick up 6-5. 

http://www.mcall.com/sports/college/mc-lehigh-basketball-late-season-run-20170306-story.html
12  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Recruiting Update on: April 20, 2017, 01:47:18 pm
Lets be clear the statement that we are not showing progress applies only to the recruits that people on this board post about and that show up on twitter.  It is possible we are in better shape with these players than those that are simply bitching without any information to back it up are posting here.  Also, there are a whole lot of players all over the world we are likely talking to and the staff has no obligation to tell anyone about them.  Again 15 conference wins last two years 14 wins the 7 years before Neubauer combined.  Back off and give them space to work. 
13  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: AA to UCONN on: April 20, 2017, 08:41:16 am
Anderson was told what he had to do to get playing time.  Just like Suarez.  He was not told to leave.  If you think Neubauer and staff did not develop him over the last two years then you are kidding yourself.  Then like all good coaches he continued to increase Andersons playing time as he improved, seems like Anderson has a lot to thank Neubauer for.  Thank the staff that made him into a player instead of letting him sit on the bench wasting his talent like Pecora would have.  So let's be clear according to our new poster if Neubauer is not hired Anderson continues to not work during the summer coasts along and does not reach his potential.  Everyone gets credit on this board except the coaches.  It is amazing to me that it was just admitted that during his first two years here Anderson did not work hard but yet we are supposed to thank him for getting in gear when Neubaur laid down the law. 

Goodbye to Anderson and Sengfelder. I am going to try to turn the page and wait for us to sign players which we will do. Don't know who it will be but I do know the recruiting experts here will likely deem them not good enough on paper.  That is the way it is here.  The coach who won more conference games the last two years than past 7 years combined gets criticized incessantly no matter what. Hopefully he proves us wrong like he did last year. 
14  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: AA to UCONN on: April 19, 2017, 12:34:46 pm
I doubt very much you told him because he was transferring you consider him to lack character.  Ons stop hidng behing what "others" think.  You called the kid out and you damn well wouldn't do it to his face.  That lacks character.

How am I hiding, Ive made my thoughts very clear.  Do you really think I am the only one who has this opinion?  Your thoughts on my character mean nothing, I cannot care less.  I stand by everything.  Period end of story.   
15  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: 2017-18 Out Of Conference Schedule on: April 19, 2017, 12:31:14 pm
I'm not a huge fan of playing St. John's every year but if we're not playing them I hope we're adding a couple of local teams.

Any reason given why we're not playing St. John's this year?

None was given but it seemed clear to me that they will not be on the schedule this year barring a change of mind. 
16  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: AA to UCONN on: April 19, 2017, 12:26:01 pm

At this juncture, all bets are off, bring in some bodies.

Unfortunately this is where the entire sport is.  It is a shame and takes away from the enjoyment. 
17  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: 2017-18 Out Of Conference Schedule on: April 19, 2017, 12:23:14 pm
If the A-10 was going to complain about our line-up it would have been in 15-16 as that was a weaker schedule than last year.  Any complaints last year would have been about losing to the lineup but I doubt that happened although it would have been justified. 
18  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: AA to UCONN on: April 19, 2017, 12:21:22 pm
Because the kid is a Fordham student athlete.  Questioning his character??  Because he wants to go play somewhere else?   No, I don't think the message is the same at all.  According to this line of thought, any players who transfer in after they graduate from another school, suffer from the same "lack of character".   Are those the kind of people Fordham should be admitting?

Show some balls and tell the guy to his face that he lacks "character".

Ive met both Sengfelder and Anderson several times and I and others talked about this season and next.  The topic of their graduating was discussed and they gave no indication they were going anywhere.  Sengfelder went so far as to say he applied to graduate school at Fordham and was waiting to hear back.  Anderson told several people who did a lot for him over the years (I was not there for these conversations)  in terms of career advice that he was staying loved Fordham and wanted to finish his career here.  So I have no problem reminding them of our conversations and stating everything I posted to them personally.  I doubt that happens, they know my and others reaction to their decision is not going to be positive.  
19  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: AA to UCONN on: April 19, 2017, 11:17:46 am
Go back and take a close look at who it was that first brought up the word character. That person clearly thought that the claim that AA was disloyal was an attack on his character.

As an aside, I do not think that having a character flaw (we all have some) means that one lacks character.

Excellent point. 
20  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: AA to UCONN on: April 19, 2017, 09:07:13 am
You can transfer up if you graduate.  6ft 9 good student, can block some shots, he could help with depth if we end up short at the end of the signing period. Plus his mom makes it sound like he likes  the school. Not the worst thing Neubie could do.   

Instant Sengfelder replacement.  there was a good debate back when he left. Most said we would have liked to see him stay but understood his leaving and Neubauer was questioned for telling him he would not play. 

This is the world we live in now where fordham has to protect itself from players leaving while at the same time go get other players that left.   It is not good for the sport in general.
21  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: AA to UCONN on: April 19, 2017, 08:54:26 am
He was at Fordham for 2 years and Adelphi for 2 years. If he graduated, he should b e eligible right away as a 5th year player. I actually had suggested this scenario in another post.

Yes, i would take him as a 5th year grad player. Get Mapi on the phone.



Verbal commits has him listed as leaving Adelphi I do not know the rules with DII players. 
22  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: AA to UCONN on: April 19, 2017, 07:56:13 am


No Ace, you said this has all been said before.  It hasn't. Calling out a soon to be graduate for lacking character because he chooses to continue an his career and education at a new school is definitely breaking new ground.  From our ambulance chaser in chief no less...   Had the Bomber or Bronx-boy or me flamed a student-athlete that way, there would be at the very least a PM in the file!

He is not a Fordham student athlete anymore and yes his decision shows a lack of character in my opinion.
 He is a young adult and showed a lack of loyalty and apreciation to a school that gave him an opportunity others would not.  That is a reflection of character in my opinion. You have a different view of the situation that is fine.
23  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: AA to UCONN on: April 18, 2017, 04:22:09 pm
So how do you feel about Fordham working out players on the FB team until they quit on the spot and walk out? Or running them until they never show up again? There's no loyalty by a University. They sign kids to win games and they recruit over them when they can. There's more than 1 way to "run" someone off and it doesn't need to be physical.

When I worked at Fordham a coach actually told me that he was going to do everything he can do get his student-athletes to quit in order to open up space on the team. That's the loyalty Fordham has to their athletes. They hire coaches to win. coaches are loyal to winning because winning = money and success.

How many football players transfer out each year?  I honestly have no idea but I do not read that there is this mass exodus every year but maybe I dont pay attention.  Help me out here: how many football players transferred out of Fordham after the 2016 season?  I am interested to know.  

My point is that this sense of loyalty is ridiculous. At that time, JN did what he thought was best. I'm not second guessing or questioning his tactic. sounds like loyalty only comes into play when a student-athlete is decent enough for the school to care about his presence.

That makes no sense.  Disloyalty would have been telling him we are not renewing your scholarship.  Disloyalty would have been lying to him saying he would play so he could get him to stay and then sit him on the bench in a break glass in case of emergency case.
24  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: AA to UCONN on: April 18, 2017, 04:16:52 pm
What was Neubauer supposed to tell Suarez if it was his assessment that Suarez would not play because he was behind CS Rhoomes Canty and Bunting?  Under those circumstances what would have been the loyal thing to do? 
25  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: AA to UCONN on: April 18, 2017, 04:12:36 pm
Roll Eyes

He didn't run him off in the literal sense, but he talked him out of staying at Fordham. In Mapi's own words "we love Fordham." Must've been really difficult for a kid who "loves" a school to walk away.  Again, I don't have a problem with a coach opening up space on his team, but I don't also get upset when a player leaves for greener pastures or a chance at an NCAA run. It's the way the game is played today. I'd prefer different rules, but that's unlikely to ever happen.

What did you want him to tell Suarez when he had his initial meeting?  If what he told him was his assessment of where he fit in or did not fit in, was Neubauer supposed to lie to Suarez so he would stay?
26  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: AA to UCONN on: April 18, 2017, 04:00:31 pm
Mom's own words: "Manny  believes JN is a good coach, but  JN  was very clear went told Manny he was not going to play because ahead of him was CS Canty, Rhoomes and the new recruit  ." are a lot closer to the truth than your spin. JN very clearly told him he was not going to play as there were four players ahead of him, a clear signal that he was not wanted. So much for loyalty.

I have nothing wrong with JN or any new coach giving the players he is inheriting an honest assessment of their talent and where they stand with him.  As a matter of fact, I think it is commendable to be honest with the remaining players so they can make a decision that is best for them. What I disagree with is this notion of "loyalty" and "obligation" as it has nothing to do with AA or any player.  

Telling a player where he is on the depth chart is actually the most loyal thing Neubauer could do.  Think of it this way: Neubauer could have lied to him said you will play and then had him sit on the bench all year long as insurance.  If he does not play he can do the same thing the next year.   The way it worked it out with Canty getting hurt it would have worked out well to have Suarez but Neubauer gave his honest assessment so Suarez who sat one year already and barely played that year could make an informed decision as what he wanted to do.  He chose to leave when he could have said I am going to stay and prove myself.  Understandable decision but it has nothing to do with loyalty by Fordham. 
27  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: AA to UCONN on: April 18, 2017, 03:43:17 pm
Without a credible source, I choose not to believe it.

How about his mother posting on this board?

A quote from Mapi in a thread she started:

I'm Manny's mother, I wrote the post, Manny and I love Fordham, Manny  believes JN is a good coach, but  JN  was very clear went told Manny he was not going to play because ahead of him was CS Canty, Rhoomes and the new recruit  . My son is not going to sit another year, he is going to play for David because Adelphi is in a good D2 conference and he will play immediately, Manny never thought  for one second to leave Fordham; he had two tough years one of them with injuries and now is one hundred percent, at the VCU game that's him, so for those that think for one second that Manny's plan was to leave Fordham  let me tell you he is in pain for leaving it was a good learning experience, but his is looking forward to a good future with Duke.
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28  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: AA to UCONN on: April 18, 2017, 03:35:34 pm
The same place when we ran DBA off the team.  Loyalty is a two way street and does not apply.  If you want loyalty then don't recruit over a kid once he signs. If you want loyalty then have your coach commit in writing that he will stay all four years that you are there. AA graduated within four years and chose to play his remaining year of eligibility at a program that is way beyond Fordham. Why not?  I wish him well.

Not true.  DBA was on the team his first year was on basketball scholarship and stayed in school after that as far as I know.  He just did not play.  That is a coach's decision.  Fordham is loyal to a lot of guys who lost a lot of games before Neubauer got here including Anderson. 
29  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: AA to UCONN on: April 18, 2017, 03:33:27 pm
How do you know what he was told?  Were you a part of the meeting?

What I posted is fact not rumor.  You can believe it or not.  Similar conversation to Neubauer and Anderson actually.  Anderson stayed and became a better player. 
30  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: AA to UCONN on: April 18, 2017, 03:32:36 pm
Due to an admission snafu and injury , he had no Division 1 transfer eligibility left. I know he liked Duke but do really think he wanted to play Division 3. There's a bridge near Bay Ridge for sale if you are interested

He could have chosen to stay.  Neubauer, and Pecora for that matter, told him the same thing: you are behind Sengfelder Rhoomes Canty Bunting if you stay you may not play at all this year.  He sat out 1 year already and had a choice: do I stay and fight for playing time that may not come under a new coach or do I transfer down and make sure I can play.  His choice was understandable given his circumstances but this was not a case of disloyalty by Fordham or Neubauer.  suarez was given an honest assessment of what they thought his prospects for playing time were and he chose to leave.  I can pull up his mother's post which states this was the conversation Neubauer had with Manny.  He wanted to stay but wanted guaranteed playing time.  
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