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1  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Recruiting Update on: June 10, 2017, 07:11:59 pm
Some legit recruiting news.  Won't help us next year, but Fordham offered former Patriot League Freshman of the Year Delante Jones (Soph) from American.  6'5 guard who averaged 11.5ppg and shot 34% 3pt last year.


https://twitter.com/tay_mchugh/status/873348372379381761


So by offering him and should he accept we would be down to 1 ship? Kind of creates a bit more doubt as to whether we will be able to bring in any more help for this year.
2  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Starting Line Up '17-18' on: June 05, 2017, 10:26:08 am
A couple of new players may possibly be coming in, but taking a guess right now, it looks like the Rams starting line up could be: Chartouny, Evans, Havsa, Pekarek and Slannia.

So Pekarek starts ahead of Ohams? Don't like that at all. Shows how much we need help in the front court.
3  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Pre Pre Season X & O on: June 01, 2017, 11:48:00 am
A lot of this is how you defend the pick & roll.  You can scheme to have your perimeter defenders fight through screens, and have your bigs just "show" to slow down the ballhandler, or you can switch immediately to avoid any miscommunication on the screen.  It appears JN's philosophy is the latter, but that may be due to the relative inexperience of his bigs.  It takes time and game reps to properly hedge out to slow down the ballhandler without losing contact with the screener.

If the current lack of bigs on the roster continues, JN will have to adjust that philosophy in order to avoid foul trouble, but I'm sure he knows that.

Two points. One its not always the bigs fault. At times with the pressure defense our guards got beat at the circle and the bigs would often pick up fouls on the drives to the hoop. Second, JN did adjust somewhat this year and often employed a zone defense which helped for a number of reasons.

One thing you can't teach is quickness to some extent. Positioning is important but so is quickness.Other than Ohams I wouldn't really call any of our bigs quick.
4  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Recruiting Update on: May 30, 2017, 09:01:17 am
This year, it's been the Kiss of Death for a potential recruit having his name mentioned on this Board. 

You may be right but how much of this is due to the fact that names were just thrown out even if there was no interest in Fordham to begin with.
5  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: All time best Fordham Starting five on: May 27, 2017, 01:44:24 pm
SeaBass was a terrific talent. He turned that talent into him becoming a pretty good basketball player. Imagine what he could have become under a good coach. Fred Herzog was the winningest men's basketball player ever so he deserves mention.

I agree with the names mentioned above, but would add Bob Melvin. Jerry Hobbie, Mark Murphy, and Eddie Bona. I would drop Paschall. He played one year and while he was good, he was not at the level of the others mentioned in this thread.

Hobbie, Murphy and Bona were all good players under Penders. In fact Penders always managed to get the most out of good players. Don't forget guys like Billie Calhoun, Don Mccormick, Steven Samuels and even Dud Tongal. The one guy IMO that stood out was mentioned already was David Maxwell. The guy wasn't the greatest shooter but he has so many intangibles. Just a real winner.
6  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: All time best Fordham Starting five on: May 25, 2017, 01:09:02 pm
Yelverton  G
Charles     G
Dunston    C
Gaston      F
Herzog      F

That is a Sweet 16 team.



I go back to late 60s but any team has to have Yelverton and Charles. We really have not had any players like that since. I would favor Daryl Brown over Dunston by a slight margin at Center and would want Paterno as my wing forward. After that the debate for the 5th slot is wide open. Gaston would be one of the better choices.
7  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Recruiting Update on: May 23, 2017, 01:05:13 pm
Tomorrow is the last day for players to withdraw from the NBA draft and return to their schools. I am hoping we grab a grad transfer as a result of that resolving some of the uncertainty at the high major level and the schollies those schools have available.

Do we know if there are any grad transfers left that would make an impact on our program and that were considering Fordham?
8  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Disappointed ! on: May 19, 2017, 01:00:45 pm
Well, obviously not this year but Ohams is local, Slanina is foreign but played for ASA, which is based in NYC.  Tavares is from Providence but played for Monroe, also local.  So maybe not the cream off the top of the PSAL but they were all playing basketball in NYC.

It is disappointing we haven't had more signees to announce yet, but we didn't know about Havsa until August last year, so there may be more in the works.  Right now we have 10 guys on scholarship active for next season, assuming the eligible guys all come back.  Miami played last year with 9.  Not comparing Fordham to them but it happens sometimes you don't use them all up, departures, etc.  And Miami made the tournament.

I like the 2 guys we signed, even though Portley sits out.  We do need more.  

While depth is important I rather have quality than quantity. The fact that Miami played with 9 last year and made the Tournament has to do with quality.
9  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Disappointed ! on: May 19, 2017, 12:54:21 pm
I am withholding judgment until we know that recruiting for next season has finished

The recruiting game has changed, international players, the rise of transfers, the focus on ,ore national instead of local recruiting, completely different ballgame from even five years ago and every coach has to adjust

I do think that JN talking about his recruiting philosophy would help us understand better what he hopes to accomplish and I wouldn't mind a leak or two beyond a Twitter post that " Good news is coming". Could be something as simple as a background conversation that indicates we are recruiting Euro post players or something similar, that would help some fans step back from the ledge

I am hoping "good news is coming" would mean more than we are recruiting. It should mean we have a commitment that is waiting to be cleared or whatever that is holding up any announcements.
10  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Recruiting Update on: May 18, 2017, 01:41:36 pm
From the guy who has littered the recruiting thread with criticisms over JN and the staff. You have dozens of posts in this very thread that do not pertain to a specific recruit such as:
   
             Being a good coach involves a number of things. JN showed he can coach game wise. It's still to be proven whether he can succeed at recruiting. We will
             soon find out. He does need to bring in some good talent in the next few weeks.



             He got hurt around mid year and only played in 15 games this past season but in all honesty the guy still has a lot to prove. In his first year he averaged
             18  minutes and was a 34% shooter with 2 rebounds per game. In 15 games this past year averaged 16 minutes, shot 28% and 1.3 rebounds per game. 



What exactly do these have to do with a recruit? Nothing.  If you want to bark at the other posters, then go back and look at most of your posts in this thread. Nearly all have zero to do with a specific Fordham recruit.

Funny you should be the one talking. Honestly I thought both responses  above that you chose to spell out  involved recruiting.  But in case you forgot below are some of your
posts in this thread. One talks about current roster players like mine did about Pekarek. Also if you go back and look at my posts while I have expressed concern over lack of commitments so far I also said time and again we need to see how this thing plays out before we can assess anything. Even the quote you pasted above gives JN credit in one phase of the job and I think some people would agree about the recruiting aspect.
 JN showed he can coach game wise. It's still to be proven whether he can succeed at recruiting. We will
             soon find out.

 
Your posts:
Chuba Ohams is 6ft 8. Jesse Bunting is 6ft 8 and Slanina is 6ft 10.  Ohams played sparingly early but when he got appreciable minute s (VCU) he proved he can be a formidable big. Bunting got even less minutes but showed a lot of promise. Slanina was on his way to being very solid prior to the injury.  Three (3) bigs there.  I think a shooter is more important for this team. I have heard we are recruiting some Eastern Euro bigs but lately rumors for me havent been too accurate so lets wait and see. We will need another big if these guys continue to foul at the rate that they foul.

You want to keep injecting your son into every thread, its wide open.


Its not un-necessary, this guy posts on every single player no matter where they go that its about our facility. AA made his own intentions very clear and never once mentioned the facilities.  Players are on social media, they speak with reporters, let them speak for themselves.

He just happens to bump into a guy or just happens to be driving by his sons school to fit the story.  No whe just happens to have a neighbor. Next week he will just happen to run itno a guy who knows a guy who knows a guy who said he didnt go to Fordham because of the facility. He has no idea why the player chose that school, nor does he have anything from the kid to state the facilities were a deciding factor. How about just once that is supported?

This is a recruiting thread but certain posters simply cant stop themselves from turning this and every thread into a facilities debate.
11  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Recruiting Update on: May 18, 2017, 09:44:14 am
What about a thread in the Fordham section titled "Potential Prospects" or something similar, which can be used to discuss players who might fill a hole for the Rams.  It can ID under the radar players the coaching staff might want to investigate (some of us may be uncomfortable emailing the coaching staff) or players who have, in fact, been looked at and passed on by the staff (Most of us do not have inside information).  

I think potential gives it too much credibility. How about "speculation" or "wish list"
12  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Recruiting Update on: May 18, 2017, 09:42:53 am
Because he is a local guy who is transferring, follows Ali Ton (which suggests he knows who he is and why that's important) and started on the number 2 high school team in the country where 7 of his teammates play D-I ball, meaning he may be better than 2 D-I guys at least.  We recruited 2 local jucos last year in Tavares and Slanina.  How much better are Monroe or ASA compared to Pace?  Everyone else we targeted in the US we know of is off the board.  It's crickets otherwise, there should be no posts here at all if that's the criteria. 

Probably we sign some better international kid.  This guy is looking to latch on somewhere.  But he's better than a few guys on the roster, if perhaps not scholarship worthy.

Everything you say here has no merit. So what he is a local guy looking to transfer. Has Fordham ever been mentioned? Did you check to see if he is following any other recruiters? I bet he is. So 7 others play D ball. Does that make him qualified?  I love the line that he is looking to latch on somewhere. So are a bunch of others. Finally have you studied the tapes or watched him play real time and for sure think he is better than a few guys on the roster? He played Division II big step down. May be he is better than someone on the roster but not sure how you make that assessment if you have never seen him play.
13  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Recruiting Update on: May 18, 2017, 09:34:37 am
Well, hold on a second. On the one hand, we want to keep discussion in the thread to players we're actually recruiting, when the staff has gone to radio silence on who we are recruiting. Well if that's the case, yeah, folks will speculate. As is my view with many things, if nobody is actually harmed . . .  don't sweat it.

Spring signing period closes minutes from now. Seems that, after that, speculation is all we have.

Its not recruiting news. What don't you get. People are scanning the internet and finding all these tid bits about people transferring etc. when there is absolutely no connection to our Program. So you encourage people to continue posting every name transferring across the country even if there is no relevance? Its like trying to get Sports information and people keep posting Page Six items.
14  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Recruiting Update on: May 18, 2017, 09:31:23 am
It's nice to be able to go to one thread where there's something pertinent to Fordham's recruiting efforts. If there's nothing new, there's nothing new.

For those who want to talk about general college BBall recruiting, why not start a thread in the Sports Talk Water Cooler section?  Then, if the kid actually is connected to Fordham, move it over.

+100. This is how this thread started off a while back and some have taken it over with random posting about players transferring that have no connection with Fordham whatsoever. Just because they follow a Fordham coach on twitter. I have heard everything now.
15  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Recruiting Update on: May 17, 2017, 08:41:37 pm

Then why post anything. Again this is a recruiting thread or at least that is what it started out as. If you are going to post names of every player in America transferring it serves no purpose. What next will you start posting Division III transfers.
16  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Recruiting Update on: May 17, 2017, 03:59:04 pm
I think so, as others have mentioned, you don't hire Ali Ton unless you want him to bring in players from overseas, it wasn't like we were going to have him recruit Iowa HS players for us

For all we know JN & AT might have tied up a couple of Intl players a month ago

Could be but I am surprised that with today's social media, info like that wouldn't leak out.
17  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Fordham’s Joseph Chartouny to Declare for NBA Draft on: May 16, 2017, 10:19:44 am
Workouts get arranged through intermediaries for those who did not get invited to the combine. Chartouny will either be at Fordham or playing pro overseas next year.  He is not an NBA player or even D League.  It is good he is getting this experience but it does not change his status. 

Agree but still makes it difficult to "plan" for next year. Also, I wonder what the window is for him to decide to play overseas assuming he gets an offer. The last thing you want is for this to drag on into the summer.
18  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Recruiting Update on: May 15, 2017, 01:32:04 pm
I agree with you that he is wait and see but I feel likepeople aren't even mentioning his name in rotations.  The guy is 6'7 athletic and has shown signs of being able to shoot, although not consistently.  Just wasn't sure if he was playing through the injury to start the year and then shut it down when he realized it was affecting his game too much.

He got hurt around mid year and only played in 15 games this past season but in all honesty the guy still has a lot to prove. In his first year he averaged 18 minutes and was a 34% shooter with 2 rebounds per game. In 15 games this past year averaged 16 minutes, shot 28% and 1.3 rebounds per game. He has yet to prove he is a consistent and good shooter and is not a great rebounder. Also IMO he got exposed big time on defense especially in the pressure defense we played. Looked slow. Maybe he fares better in a zone defense but in all honesty he is a big question mark.
19  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Recruiting Update on: May 15, 2017, 08:56:45 am
It's a recruiting update.  Are we really having this conversation?  ACE maybe lock the Recruiting Update thread?

Yes it is a recruiting thread but if you look at the threads posted since the season ended over 50% of the posts are a Wish List and do not discuss players we actually may be following and recruiting. I for one want to see this thread get back on focus and if people want to mention players they see on the Internet or players that are transferring even if we have not shown interest then maybe we should start a new thread called "Wish List".
20  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Recruiting Update on: May 14, 2017, 04:17:32 pm
Um, we've been recruiting and posting about him here for at least 2 months.
Yes but once we were no  longer in the running as previously posted why does it matter when he announces and where he is going?
21  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Recruiting Update on: May 14, 2017, 10:43:49 am
Understand we may not be in his final group, but Myles Johnson is expected to announce tomorrow.

Again, relevance to Fordham program?
22  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Recruiting Update on: May 13, 2017, 02:43:02 pm
We had Glenn Batemon. Been there, done that.  One thing I like about JN's recruiting is he doesn't seem to settle. He doesn't want the guy with MAAC or NEC offers he hopes can improve. He wants the 3-star guys. And that's who we need to compete in our league.

Doesn't every coach want at least the 3 star players? I am not trying to be sarcastic nor am I doubting this coaching staff but has JN recruited a 3 star player yet? Hopefully he does this year which would be great but wanting one and actually bringing in one is totally different. Again I hope he does.
23  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Recruiting Update on: May 12, 2017, 12:50:28 pm
Plus JN and his staff had success coaching up Rhoomes. Not saying they would repeat with Nix but it is possible. Definitely would provide some depth where we need it.

I give credit to JN and staff on Rhoomes and a big part of it probably has to do with fact that prior coach did not coach up anyone. But I think we take this JN coaching up slant too far sometimes. Not saying he isn't a good coach but there are others out there as well including coach at Pitt (Hastings). To me its not worth it given his paltry stats. With Rhoomes you knew there was some talent, just inconsistent.

Also I am guilty on this as well having responded to this particular subject but we waste too much time in this thread on guys we have no clue whether there is any interest on either side. It seems like anyone available makes there way onto this threat whether its realistic or not. I for one would like to see a return to what it was a year or 2 ago dealing more with guys we are following or have offered as opposed to who we should or should not go after.
24  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Recruiting Update on: May 11, 2017, 11:50:38 am
I think it should come down to the best available player for the program. If the recruit who will have to sit for a year is a lot better than a prospect who can play immediately than I would go with the former. But, as you said, it's JN's decision.

Best player or Best player fitting a position need. Quite frankly we need another front court player more than a guard. We are very thin when it comes to Bigs or Swing Forwards.
25  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Tre Evans Commits to Fordham on: May 09, 2017, 10:49:34 am
Well Scott, where are the opinionated ones when there is good news?  The ones who were ripping the staff for no recruits? They seem to have disappeared, and this is jut one signing.

I think several have posted in this thread. I also think you are taking liberties regarding some posters. There were many including myself who expressed concern we hadn't signed anyone this late in the process but also at least in my case have repeated over and over that we needed to wait to see how things shake out after the recruiting is over. That is not ripping the staff.
26  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Recruiting Update on: May 05, 2017, 02:22:11 pm
Back to recruiting - WKU has already signed a 5 star Center and has two talented forwards coming back including Tennessee transfer Jabari McGhee.

Does Myles Johnson want to play behind them and will he be recruited over?

I thought somebody said he is going to Hawaii for a visit? That may be the reason.
27  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Recruiting Update on: May 05, 2017, 01:39:30 pm
At some point Fordham fans need to decide are they getting behind this staff to support them or get out of the way.

Actually there are 3 choices, the third being criticizing the staff. You or I may not like it or agree but its a reality. Go back and look at the threads from the Pecora and DW era's. You basically had 2 opinions for or against. No one is really going to get out of the way. Why would anyone that cares simply get out of the way?
28  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Recruiting Update on: May 05, 2017, 01:27:58 pm
Isaiah Whaley would be a great get. It appeared he was going to SLU after visiting in early April.

It now appears that New Mexico would be our main competition, although he has a very lengthy list of offers. 

Do you know for a fact that its down to us and New Mexico or just speculating?
29  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: How Others Get Students To games on: May 04, 2017, 03:47:49 pm
This year was odd.  Injuries happen to all schools but for us this year was over the top: Hicks, JC ( on and off), Slanina, Pekarek, Zarkovic is an awful lot of bodies to overcome.  Astersisk for the injuries but certainly not for the inexplicable start to the season.  That's on the coach.

Some of this is over the top. We can debate this till kingdom come but the reality is we played some of our better ball and had some good wins when both Pekarek and Zarko were out.You can't skip over that and yet use them missing games as a crutch for some of the losses.Both Ohams and Havsa stepped up when they were out.
30  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: How Others Get Students To games on: May 04, 2017, 09:44:55 am
Incorrect.

The full story about the move to the A-10 is known by some, including me(for obvious reasons.) All four of your premises are wrong and we are successful now in all sports in the A-10 with the exception of Volleyball with Men's Basketball moving in a positive direction.

The move to the A-10 was the most significant since football was brought back as a varsity sport. We will build new athletic facilities and the future is bright.


In the sense the men's program has been a lot more competitive the last 2 seasons is definitely a move in the right direction. But let's remember we don't have much equity build up over the last 20 years so its crucial that this trend continues. Why I am so concerned about the lack of commitments so far is the fact that based on the current roster it will be hard for this team to continue the trend next year IMO. Again let's wait and see where this all ends up but it terms of this topic and trying to get Students to games, as well as alumni, performance on the court is crucial as well. A step backward for this program next season is just another roadblock that would need to be over come.
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