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1  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: 2017-18 Schedule Released on: September 08, 2017, 04:46:41 pm
My impression is that this game intentionally has been scheduled for a quiet time (i.e. long weekends) over the last several years.  I would not be surprised if the administration wants to discourage students from drinking all day and creating a stir at the game.

As to the NFL, it will be week 12 of the regular season.  The Giants are playing @ Wash Thanksgiving night.  No conflict.  The Panthers are @ Jets at 1:00, but that game might not be meaningful by then.  The better NFL games are Sun night (GB @ Pitt) and Mon night (Hou @ Balt), unless you have interest in Mia @ NE at 1:00.   Wink  If you are a student you come back early, go to the BB game and follow it up with a trip to your favorite Little Italy restaurant or bar.   

Even if the NFL was not a conflicting issue, how about traffic. The day before Thanksgiving is typically the worst traffic day of the year followed by the Sunday after Thanksgiving with everyone returning. As for the students, they don't attend games as it is let alone coming back early over the Thanksgiving weekend to attend one.
2  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Starting Line Up '17-18' on: September 01, 2017, 05:08:48 pm
Coach Crawford has his work cut out for him. His defensive schemes are outstanding but the A-10 refs call far too many ticky tac fouls if a big jumps out on a guard. Slanina breathes on a little guard up top and they call it every time.

I also think at times the trapping defense exposed some of the bigs especially with the quick guards at the top of the key. I really thought the defense got better when we switched to a zone at times.
3  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Starting Line Up '17-18' on: September 01, 2017, 05:06:10 pm
Really like the composition of the roster. 11 players who can contribute and 2 sit out transfers. I am not concerned about replacing the scoring. Our offense stunk last year. Honestly I don't know how we could possibly be worse. I think we will shoot the ball much better this year, take care of the ball better, and be much more efficient.

Defensively we will need to replace AA but the loss of Sengfelder is a net positive. Foul trouble for Slanina and Chuba is a concern but as we saw last JN is a master of getting as many mins as possible out of guys in foul trouble,

For me the only starters I would put in pen are JC and PS as well as probably Chuba,.

The other two guards/wings is an open competition at this point I imagine between Hicks, Havsa, Evans, Taveras, and Pekarek. If I had to bet I would say it would be Hicks and Havsa but honestly it doesn;t really matter as this will all sort itself out as the we move into the preseason and OOC schedule.

Generally agree except on 2 points. Why/how is the loss of Sengfelder a net positive? He was a solid player for us. I also think AA is more easily replaced with this roster than Sengfelder. If anything we could use a little more depth at the forward spot.
4  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Recruiting Update on: July 21, 2017, 12:58:10 pm
I agree. Hopefully, the staff is recruiting on the assumption that they will need to fill four spots (or five). From the looks of things, they are doing that this summer. They did not seem to take that approach last summer. 

+1. And we will also find out whether or not they can successfully and consistently recruit local/U.S talent as opposed to filling spots via international players. This will be interesting to see how things play out.
5  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Recruiting Update on: July 17, 2017, 06:33:16 pm
   You're all assuming that the international market for players is some undiscovered land where we have our pick of the top talent.  Not so.  The top kids overseas are well-scouted and know the differences between Fordham and NCAA tourney teams.  I highly doubt that we'd be in line for any of the top talent.  I think we can attract better talent stateside.

I tend to agree with you. Some of the comments saying we can offer the international kids something more because we are located in NYC IMO is over blown. As some pointed out schools have been recruiting good international players for some time now. Seton Hall had a top player from Israel when they went to the Championship game under PJ. UConn had a kid named Scheffer back in the 90s I believe also from Israel. Other schools have also benefited as well through the years. Point is its not new. I get it though. We need to explore all possibilities from a recruiting perspective especially since we are challenged to get consistent talent both locally and national. Problem is the successful schools bring in the talent to supplement their roster. We are looking for the foreign talent as a base. Its going to be a challenge regardless.
6  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Ivan Raut signs with Fordham on: July 12, 2017, 07:05:28 pm
Sounds on point. That turnover/3 and d concoction will create problems for many teams, just as it did last year. Guard play will be up a notch possibly two tiers if Havsa makes another leap. IMO, the development of Chuba will be the difference of a 12-win or 16-win group.

Sorry to hype Evans, I just have a feeling he's the real McCoy. I'm buying Evans/Hicks stock, aggressively. Evans arrival is good news for Chartouny's pro career to come, and I think he was sold on that.

Overall, optimistic about this roster and expect a cluster of W's before conference play - and we better, this A10 is not d***ing around in 2018.

Not ready to predict wins or losses until we see full schedule. Last I saw in other thread on schedule still some blanks need to be filled in.
7  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: DePaul transfer Erten Gazi has committed to Fordham, per a source. on: June 29, 2017, 10:47:25 am
I don't think that's fair. We've recruited talented players imo but we haven't hit those "on paper" homeruns we are all desperate to land. We may not have any Jon Severe type signings yet, but it appears to me we're building a team and we're developing players. I'll take that because, as you and others have said, we have a good coach.

I'm willing to set aside any panic/fear until midway through the season when we have a good sense of who we are as a team.

I still believe a good coach can only get so much out of his talent. Look at last year, considering everything including some injuries, JN probably coached better than the PY when he had more wins with better talent/depth. This year he probably will coach his butt off again but I am not sure we have replaced the talent we lost specifically the 3 starters. We will see and it should be interesting but getting in a Gaston, Dunston type recruit would definitely make it more exciting given the fact that JN has showed he can coach.
8  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: DePaul transfer Erten Gazi has committed to Fordham, per a source. on: June 28, 2017, 03:56:33 pm
For 20+ years we have struggled to land quality (good and immediately qualified) talent and keep it. Some keep blaming the coach and others get angry if we talk about the elephant in the room.

Not to mention the few years we have gotten talent, the coach couldn't coach and now that it appears we have a coach that can coach we can't get the talent.
9  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Recruiting Update on: June 10, 2017, 07:11:59 pm
Some legit recruiting news.  Won't help us next year, but Fordham offered former Patriot League Freshman of the Year Delante Jones (Soph) from American.  6'5 guard who averaged 11.5ppg and shot 34% 3pt last year.


https://twitter.com/tay_mchugh/status/873348372379381761


So by offering him and should he accept we would be down to 1 ship? Kind of creates a bit more doubt as to whether we will be able to bring in any more help for this year.
10  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Starting Line Up '17-18' on: June 05, 2017, 10:26:08 am
A couple of new players may possibly be coming in, but taking a guess right now, it looks like the Rams starting line up could be: Chartouny, Evans, Havsa, Pekarek and Slannia.

So Pekarek starts ahead of Ohams? Don't like that at all. Shows how much we need help in the front court.
11  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Pre Pre Season X & O on: June 01, 2017, 11:48:00 am
A lot of this is how you defend the pick & roll.  You can scheme to have your perimeter defenders fight through screens, and have your bigs just "show" to slow down the ballhandler, or you can switch immediately to avoid any miscommunication on the screen.  It appears JN's philosophy is the latter, but that may be due to the relative inexperience of his bigs.  It takes time and game reps to properly hedge out to slow down the ballhandler without losing contact with the screener.

If the current lack of bigs on the roster continues, JN will have to adjust that philosophy in order to avoid foul trouble, but I'm sure he knows that.

Two points. One its not always the bigs fault. At times with the pressure defense our guards got beat at the circle and the bigs would often pick up fouls on the drives to the hoop. Second, JN did adjust somewhat this year and often employed a zone defense which helped for a number of reasons.

One thing you can't teach is quickness to some extent. Positioning is important but so is quickness.Other than Ohams I wouldn't really call any of our bigs quick.
12  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Recruiting Update on: May 30, 2017, 09:01:17 am
This year, it's been the Kiss of Death for a potential recruit having his name mentioned on this Board. 

You may be right but how much of this is due to the fact that names were just thrown out even if there was no interest in Fordham to begin with.
13  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: All time best Fordham Starting five on: May 27, 2017, 01:44:24 pm
SeaBass was a terrific talent. He turned that talent into him becoming a pretty good basketball player. Imagine what he could have become under a good coach. Fred Herzog was the winningest men's basketball player ever so he deserves mention.

I agree with the names mentioned above, but would add Bob Melvin. Jerry Hobbie, Mark Murphy, and Eddie Bona. I would drop Paschall. He played one year and while he was good, he was not at the level of the others mentioned in this thread.

Hobbie, Murphy and Bona were all good players under Penders. In fact Penders always managed to get the most out of good players. Don't forget guys like Billie Calhoun, Don Mccormick, Steven Samuels and even Dud Tongal. The one guy IMO that stood out was mentioned already was David Maxwell. The guy wasn't the greatest shooter but he has so many intangibles. Just a real winner.
14  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: All time best Fordham Starting five on: May 25, 2017, 01:09:02 pm
Yelverton  G
Charles     G
Dunston    C
Gaston      F
Herzog      F

That is a Sweet 16 team.



I go back to late 60s but any team has to have Yelverton and Charles. We really have not had any players like that since. I would favor Daryl Brown over Dunston by a slight margin at Center and would want Paterno as my wing forward. After that the debate for the 5th slot is wide open. Gaston would be one of the better choices.
15  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Recruiting Update on: May 23, 2017, 01:05:13 pm
Tomorrow is the last day for players to withdraw from the NBA draft and return to their schools. I am hoping we grab a grad transfer as a result of that resolving some of the uncertainty at the high major level and the schollies those schools have available.

Do we know if there are any grad transfers left that would make an impact on our program and that were considering Fordham?
16  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Disappointed ! on: May 19, 2017, 01:00:45 pm
Well, obviously not this year but Ohams is local, Slanina is foreign but played for ASA, which is based in NYC.  Tavares is from Providence but played for Monroe, also local.  So maybe not the cream off the top of the PSAL but they were all playing basketball in NYC.

It is disappointing we haven't had more signees to announce yet, but we didn't know about Havsa until August last year, so there may be more in the works.  Right now we have 10 guys on scholarship active for next season, assuming the eligible guys all come back.  Miami played last year with 9.  Not comparing Fordham to them but it happens sometimes you don't use them all up, departures, etc.  And Miami made the tournament.

I like the 2 guys we signed, even though Portley sits out.  We do need more.  

While depth is important I rather have quality than quantity. The fact that Miami played with 9 last year and made the Tournament has to do with quality.
17  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Disappointed ! on: May 19, 2017, 12:54:21 pm
I am withholding judgment until we know that recruiting for next season has finished

The recruiting game has changed, international players, the rise of transfers, the focus on ,ore national instead of local recruiting, completely different ballgame from even five years ago and every coach has to adjust

I do think that JN talking about his recruiting philosophy would help us understand better what he hopes to accomplish and I wouldn't mind a leak or two beyond a Twitter post that " Good news is coming". Could be something as simple as a background conversation that indicates we are recruiting Euro post players or something similar, that would help some fans step back from the ledge

I am hoping "good news is coming" would mean more than we are recruiting. It should mean we have a commitment that is waiting to be cleared or whatever that is holding up any announcements.
18  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Recruiting Update on: May 18, 2017, 01:41:36 pm
From the guy who has littered the recruiting thread with criticisms over JN and the staff. You have dozens of posts in this very thread that do not pertain to a specific recruit such as:
   
             Being a good coach involves a number of things. JN showed he can coach game wise. It's still to be proven whether he can succeed at recruiting. We will
             soon find out. He does need to bring in some good talent in the next few weeks.



             He got hurt around mid year and only played in 15 games this past season but in all honesty the guy still has a lot to prove. In his first year he averaged
             18  minutes and was a 34% shooter with 2 rebounds per game. In 15 games this past year averaged 16 minutes, shot 28% and 1.3 rebounds per game. 



What exactly do these have to do with a recruit? Nothing.  If you want to bark at the other posters, then go back and look at most of your posts in this thread. Nearly all have zero to do with a specific Fordham recruit.

Funny you should be the one talking. Honestly I thought both responses  above that you chose to spell out  involved recruiting.  But in case you forgot below are some of your
posts in this thread. One talks about current roster players like mine did about Pekarek. Also if you go back and look at my posts while I have expressed concern over lack of commitments so far I also said time and again we need to see how this thing plays out before we can assess anything. Even the quote you pasted above gives JN credit in one phase of the job and I think some people would agree about the recruiting aspect.
 JN showed he can coach game wise. It's still to be proven whether he can succeed at recruiting. We will
             soon find out.

 
Your posts:
Chuba Ohams is 6ft 8. Jesse Bunting is 6ft 8 and Slanina is 6ft 10.  Ohams played sparingly early but when he got appreciable minute s (VCU) he proved he can be a formidable big. Bunting got even less minutes but showed a lot of promise. Slanina was on his way to being very solid prior to the injury.  Three (3) bigs there.  I think a shooter is more important for this team. I have heard we are recruiting some Eastern Euro bigs but lately rumors for me havent been too accurate so lets wait and see. We will need another big if these guys continue to foul at the rate that they foul.

You want to keep injecting your son into every thread, its wide open.


Its not un-necessary, this guy posts on every single player no matter where they go that its about our facility. AA made his own intentions very clear and never once mentioned the facilities.  Players are on social media, they speak with reporters, let them speak for themselves.

He just happens to bump into a guy or just happens to be driving by his sons school to fit the story.  No whe just happens to have a neighbor. Next week he will just happen to run itno a guy who knows a guy who knows a guy who said he didnt go to Fordham because of the facility. He has no idea why the player chose that school, nor does he have anything from the kid to state the facilities were a deciding factor. How about just once that is supported?

This is a recruiting thread but certain posters simply cant stop themselves from turning this and every thread into a facilities debate.
19  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Recruiting Update on: May 18, 2017, 09:44:14 am
What about a thread in the Fordham section titled "Potential Prospects" or something similar, which can be used to discuss players who might fill a hole for the Rams.  It can ID under the radar players the coaching staff might want to investigate (some of us may be uncomfortable emailing the coaching staff) or players who have, in fact, been looked at and passed on by the staff (Most of us do not have inside information).  

I think potential gives it too much credibility. How about "speculation" or "wish list"
20  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Recruiting Update on: May 18, 2017, 09:42:53 am
Because he is a local guy who is transferring, follows Ali Ton (which suggests he knows who he is and why that's important) and started on the number 2 high school team in the country where 7 of his teammates play D-I ball, meaning he may be better than 2 D-I guys at least.  We recruited 2 local jucos last year in Tavares and Slanina.  How much better are Monroe or ASA compared to Pace?  Everyone else we targeted in the US we know of is off the board.  It's crickets otherwise, there should be no posts here at all if that's the criteria. 

Probably we sign some better international kid.  This guy is looking to latch on somewhere.  But he's better than a few guys on the roster, if perhaps not scholarship worthy.

Everything you say here has no merit. So what he is a local guy looking to transfer. Has Fordham ever been mentioned? Did you check to see if he is following any other recruiters? I bet he is. So 7 others play D ball. Does that make him qualified?  I love the line that he is looking to latch on somewhere. So are a bunch of others. Finally have you studied the tapes or watched him play real time and for sure think he is better than a few guys on the roster? He played Division II big step down. May be he is better than someone on the roster but not sure how you make that assessment if you have never seen him play.
21  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Recruiting Update on: May 18, 2017, 09:34:37 am
Well, hold on a second. On the one hand, we want to keep discussion in the thread to players we're actually recruiting, when the staff has gone to radio silence on who we are recruiting. Well if that's the case, yeah, folks will speculate. As is my view with many things, if nobody is actually harmed . . .  don't sweat it.

Spring signing period closes minutes from now. Seems that, after that, speculation is all we have.

Its not recruiting news. What don't you get. People are scanning the internet and finding all these tid bits about people transferring etc. when there is absolutely no connection to our Program. So you encourage people to continue posting every name transferring across the country even if there is no relevance? Its like trying to get Sports information and people keep posting Page Six items.
22  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Recruiting Update on: May 18, 2017, 09:31:23 am
It's nice to be able to go to one thread where there's something pertinent to Fordham's recruiting efforts. If there's nothing new, there's nothing new.

For those who want to talk about general college BBall recruiting, why not start a thread in the Sports Talk Water Cooler section?  Then, if the kid actually is connected to Fordham, move it over.

+100. This is how this thread started off a while back and some have taken it over with random posting about players transferring that have no connection with Fordham whatsoever. Just because they follow a Fordham coach on twitter. I have heard everything now.
23  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Recruiting Update on: May 17, 2017, 08:41:37 pm

Then why post anything. Again this is a recruiting thread or at least that is what it started out as. If you are going to post names of every player in America transferring it serves no purpose. What next will you start posting Division III transfers.
24  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Recruiting Update on: May 17, 2017, 03:59:04 pm
I think so, as others have mentioned, you don't hire Ali Ton unless you want him to bring in players from overseas, it wasn't like we were going to have him recruit Iowa HS players for us

For all we know JN & AT might have tied up a couple of Intl players a month ago

Could be but I am surprised that with today's social media, info like that wouldn't leak out.
25  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Fordham’s Joseph Chartouny to Declare for NBA Draft on: May 16, 2017, 10:19:44 am
Workouts get arranged through intermediaries for those who did not get invited to the combine. Chartouny will either be at Fordham or playing pro overseas next year.  He is not an NBA player or even D League.  It is good he is getting this experience but it does not change his status. 

Agree but still makes it difficult to "plan" for next year. Also, I wonder what the window is for him to decide to play overseas assuming he gets an offer. The last thing you want is for this to drag on into the summer.
26  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Recruiting Update on: May 15, 2017, 01:32:04 pm
I agree with you that he is wait and see but I feel likepeople aren't even mentioning his name in rotations.  The guy is 6'7 athletic and has shown signs of being able to shoot, although not consistently.  Just wasn't sure if he was playing through the injury to start the year and then shut it down when he realized it was affecting his game too much.

He got hurt around mid year and only played in 15 games this past season but in all honesty the guy still has a lot to prove. In his first year he averaged 18 minutes and was a 34% shooter with 2 rebounds per game. In 15 games this past year averaged 16 minutes, shot 28% and 1.3 rebounds per game. He has yet to prove he is a consistent and good shooter and is not a great rebounder. Also IMO he got exposed big time on defense especially in the pressure defense we played. Looked slow. Maybe he fares better in a zone defense but in all honesty he is a big question mark.
27  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Recruiting Update on: May 15, 2017, 08:56:45 am
It's a recruiting update.  Are we really having this conversation?  ACE maybe lock the Recruiting Update thread?

Yes it is a recruiting thread but if you look at the threads posted since the season ended over 50% of the posts are a Wish List and do not discuss players we actually may be following and recruiting. I for one want to see this thread get back on focus and if people want to mention players they see on the Internet or players that are transferring even if we have not shown interest then maybe we should start a new thread called "Wish List".
28  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Recruiting Update on: May 14, 2017, 04:17:32 pm
Um, we've been recruiting and posting about him here for at least 2 months.
Yes but once we were no  longer in the running as previously posted why does it matter when he announces and where he is going?
29  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Recruiting Update on: May 14, 2017, 10:43:49 am
Understand we may not be in his final group, but Myles Johnson is expected to announce tomorrow.

Again, relevance to Fordham program?
30  The Fordham Forums / Fordham Men's Basketball / Re: Recruiting Update on: May 13, 2017, 02:43:02 pm
We had Glenn Batemon. Been there, done that.  One thing I like about JN's recruiting is he doesn't seem to settle. He doesn't want the guy with MAAC or NEC offers he hopes can improve. He wants the 3-star guys. And that's who we need to compete in our league.

Doesn't every coach want at least the 3 star players? I am not trying to be sarcastic nor am I doubting this coaching staff but has JN recruited a 3 star player yet? Hopefully he does this year which would be great but wanting one and actually bringing in one is totally different. Again I hope he does.
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