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 on: Today at 12:51:29 pm 
Started by joeb - Last post by joesunfish
Oh, just so we don't come off as ungrateful, and because it's well-deserved, let me say "Thank you, Chris Sengfelder. You surprised us as a freshman, when you started filling up stat sheets, you had more A-10 Newcomer of the Week nods than any other player in school history, you scored 1000+ points as a Ram, you helped anchor our first winning and postseason team in years, and we'll miss you and your play."

Need someone to second that motion. It probably should be by acclamation.

John, I'm happy to second that motion. Thank you for making it.

 12 
 on: Today at 12:51:16 pm 
Started by txram - Last post by txram
We won game 1 by 11-0 via run rule.  Quense got the win.

 13 
 on: Today at 12:16:21 pm 
Started by joeb - Last post by Rich93
This "obligation" thing that people keep throwing around is silly. There is no obligation on the player's part, graduate or not.

+1. No one is saying he was obligated to stay, he had the right to leave and should have that right. The issue for some of us is the lack of loyalty to the school that gave him a lot and to date got not too much in return in terms of wins during the last three years and hurts our ability to win games this year.  Sengfelder is treating this like business that is fine we can do the same by analyzing it like ACE I and others are.  Two way street. 

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 on: Today at 12:12:35 pm 
Started by joeb - Last post by ace93
Depends on if the voters carry a grudge or not. I have no problem with the transfer as he has fulfilled his obligation to Fordham. He graduated. This is the only true position of power that an NCAA athlete has. If you graduate you are done and free to play out a 5th yet elsewhere.

This "obligation" thing that people keep throwing around is silly. There is no obligation on the player's part, graduate or not.

 15 
 on: Today at 12:12:31 pm 
Started by joeb - Last post by Rich93
With a new coach, new training program and a new system, who knows what he can do.  Absurd?  I don't think so.  Ask Ryan Rhoomes what change can do for a player's on court performance.

This is as ridiculous as your initial post.  Three years in we have a pretty good idea about his game.  Rhoomes never got the ball in the post before his senior year and he was not moving up in competition.  we've seen Sengfelder get it in the post, play defense, shoot it and his passing ability for the past two years under a good coach.  We have also seen the level of his athleticism which does not translate in terms of being a starter in those better conferences.  So to say we are out of line is ridiculous.

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 on: Today at 12:01:01 pm 
Started by joeb - Last post by kidfromny

+1. As much as I hate to see him leave I agree. If going to a school for his masters in a certain field that betters himself in the future we have no right to condemn him. If it turns out to be basketball driven then I will have another opinion. I hate to say it but there are better schools out there other than Fordham when it comes to getting a masters in certain fields.

Been told he's looking into West Coast schools, but who knows where he'll actually end up.

 17 
 on: Today at 11:57:00 am 
Started by joeb - Last post by RamFan78
Let's wait to judge until we see the roster in the Fall. We'll be fine.

Hopefully you are right but we have heard this line before and it hasn't materialized. All I know is that we now need to replace the minutes and scoring we have lost between Hawkins and CS which on average is between 25-30 points a game. I am hoping any recruits we bring in can contribute immediately.

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 on: Today at 11:53:48 am 
Started by joeb - Last post by El Jefe
It is a basketball decision.  He wants to play pro ball after this year.  It is out of line to discuss his abilities?  We've seen him for 3 years a hundred games so I think giving our opinion is very much in line.  More in line than the recruiting geniuses who see a three minute video and list of schools declaring who is and is not an A-10 "talent".  This thread is surreal and that last statement absurd.

With a new coach, new training program and a new system, who knows what he can do.  Absurd?  I don't think so.  Ask Ryan Rhoomes what change can do for a player's on court performance.

 19 
 on: Today at 11:53:05 am 
Started by joeb - Last post by RamFan78
So in 2 years we had Ryan Rhoomes who committed to staying with the program, a new coach, a new system and help put the initial foundation together for putting our program back together from the ashes.  He took a leap of faith and will probably be rewarded (as he should be) into the Fordham Rams basketball Hall of Fame in the coming years.  Now one year later we have Sengfelder who quits the program, our coaches, teammates and our new system and some of us on this board sit here and applaud him for a job well done.  Not me.  His Fordham career statistics should have a Roger Maris, Ford Frick imposed asterisk next to his statistics.....

* quit the team, teammates, coaches and fans with one year eligibility left to go for greener pastures.

He would have ended his career in the all time top 10 in scoring and top 10 in rebounding.  I would follow Rhoomes into battle any time.  I would never follow Seng, carrying his French white flag of surrender into battle.

Not sure I follow the thought process of comparing Rhoomes to Sengfelder. Sengfelder graduated and is moving on to pursue a masters. If this is driven strictly for educational reasons Its well within his choice. Rhoomes had to stay in order to graduate. Big difference. yes he could have transferred but as a junior going into his senior year don't think he would have been eligible to play because he would have lost a year of eligibility.

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 on: Today at 11:48:47 am 
Started by joeb - Last post by RamFan78
As someone who took my degree after 3 years, I think CS' decision, while hurtful from a basketball perspective to Fordham, is likely driven by other, academic concerns. He might move up to a Big 10 or other power conference team and head for the NCAAs. Or, he might slide over to, say, an Ivy program, help them to an NCAA berth (he'd be a force at that level) and have himself better positioned for a spot in, say, a Harvard or Yale Medical School.

Suppose he was your son. How would you counsel him in this position? Think carefully.


+1. As much as I hate to see him leave I agree. If going to a school for his masters in a certain field that betters himself in the future we have no right to condemn him. If it turns out to be basketball driven then I will have another opinion. I hate to say it but there are better schools out there other than Fordham when it comes to getting a masters in certain fields.

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