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 on: Today at 11:45:43 am 
Started by joeb - Last post by Rich93
I get that, but people seem to be saying the same things over and over.

Here's a question I find interesting. If Sengfelder had stats that are worthy of the Hall of Fame, and I think he is borderline, would he get in if he finishes his final year elsewhere? I, for one, have a hard time seeing them voting someone in who left the school early and put on another college's uniform.

No basketball player should get into the Hall of Fame with the overall record we had over the years.  Next guy who gets in must be on a winning team.   

 22 
 on: Today at 11:40:06 am 
Started by joeb - Last post by Rich93
I agree that his decision may not be about joining a major program and instead may have something to do with his next stage in life.  If transferring now sets him up better for medical school, it's a smart move.  

Without knowing where CS is going and how well he plays next year, I think comments about his abilities are out of line.    

It is a basketball decision.  He wants to play pro ball after this year.  It is out of line to discuss his abilities?  We've seen him for 3 years a hundred games so I think giving our opinion is very much in line.  More in line than the recruiting geniuses who see a three minute video and list of schools declaring who is and is not an A-10 "talent".  This thread is surreal and that last statement absurd.

 23 
 on: Today at 11:26:11 am 
Started by joeb - Last post by Vooter
I am so tired of seeing this dumb MAAC talk. Mickey Mouse conference with no credibility.

Sounds like the perfect place for a Mickey Mouse program with no credibility...

 24 
 on: Today at 11:22:21 am 
Started by joeb - Last post by Vooter
It is more fun.  You get to see better teams play.

Like everyone else, I get to see better teams play whenever I want...I just turn on the TV...voila!

 25 
 on: Today at 11:21:06 am 
Started by joeb - Last post by El Jefe
As someone who took my degree after 3 years, I think CS' decision, while hurtful from a basketball perspective to Fordham, is likely driven by other, academic concerns. He might move up to a Big 10 or other power conference team and head for the NCAAs. Or, he might slide over to, say, an Ivy program, help them to an NCAA berth (he'd be a force at that level) and have himself better positioned for a spot in, say, a Harvard or Yale Medical School.

Suppose he was your son. How would you counsel him in this position? Think carefully.

I agree that his decision may not be about joining a major program and instead may have something to do with his next stage in life.  If transferring now sets him up better for medical school, it's a smart move.  

Without knowing where CS is going and how well he plays next year, I think comments about his abilities are out of line.    

 26 
 on: Today at 11:11:48 am 
Started by joeb - Last post by Golden Ram
So in 2 years we had Ryan Rhoomes who committed to staying with the program, a new coach, a new system and help put the initial foundation together for putting our program back together from the ashes.  He took a leap of faith and will probably be rewarded (as he should be) into the Fordham Rams basketball Hall of Fame in the coming years.  Now one year later we have Sengfelder who quits the program, our coaches, teammates and our new system and some of us on this board sit here and applaud him for a job well done.  Not me.  His Fordham career statistics should have a Roger Maris, Ford Frick imposed asterisk next to his statistics.....

* quit the team, teammates, coaches and fans with one year eligibility left to go for greener pastures.

He would have ended his career in the all time top 10 in scoring and top 10 in rebounding.  I would follow Rhoomes into battle any time.  I would never follow Seng, carrying his French white flag of surrender into battle.

You are a strange one!

 27 
 on: Today at 11:05:07 am 
Started by joeb - Last post by John
As someone who took my degree after 3 years, I think CS' decision, while hurtful from a basketball perspective to Fordham, is likely driven by other, academic concerns. He might move up to a Big 10 or other power conference team and head for the NCAAs. Or, he might slide over to, say, an Ivy program, help them to an NCAA berth (he'd be a force at that level) and have himself better positioned for a spot in, say, a Harvard or Yale Medical School.

Suppose he was your son. How would you counsel him in this position? Think carefully.

 28 
 on: Today at 10:41:20 am 
Started by joeb - Last post by Rich93
In your opinion he can't. I'm my opinion he can . 2 years ago northwestern would have finished 7th in the A-10 now you think theta they are somehow out of reach for a mature 6-7 5th year senior to log meaningful minutes

I think those programs you mention would love to have him for the year.  Low risk signing.  I think he can play a role off the bench.  The point I was making is that if he moves down he will be stud.   He was at the perfect level at Fordham.

I am not disagreeing with anything you said but in a round about way you bring up a point about our talent level in general. Sengfelder was one of our better players no doubt but your opinion about him playing at that level would apply to almost everyone on our roster.

See above he was at the perfect level in my opinion.  We had a solid foundation of A10 players to build on for next year.  You don't need Big 10 players to compete in the A-10 and I don't see Sengfelder as a starter in the Big.  There is a role for him off the bench there but I think he will struggle.  The ACC would be a real tough task for him. Very athletic conference as a whole, if he thinks we play fast and shoot threes wait until he gets there. 

 29 
 on: Today at 10:40:15 am 
Started by joeb - Last post by 71
I think this thread has run its course. Nobody is convincing nobody of nothing. Wink  In fact, I think the opposite is happening; it is for me, at least. The more I read these comments that oppose my opinion, the more solid I feel about my opinion.

I do agree that it has run its course.  It gone from news to people talking about a seemingly decent young man who has made a perfectly legitimate decision in these terms: disloyalty, shunning, asterisks, white flags of surrender. This is absurd. I don't get surprised by much, but I am surprised when I hear this kind of talk coming from Fordham people. I understand the disagreement with the decision, and the discussion about what may be right or wrong. But to talk about this guy in denigrating terms is out of line IMO. And the suggestion that grown adults would actually let this issue affect the way they would deal with a Fordham grad makes me wonder about how we all approach collegiate sports.

 30 
 on: Today at 10:17:05 am 
Started by joeb - Last post by greenwood

Here's a question I find interesting. If Sengfelder had stats that are worthy of the Hall of Fame, and I think he is borderline, would he get in if he finishes his final year elsewhere?

No for me.  But to be fair that would also mean no if we took a 5th year transfer who in his only year here averaged 25 a game and led us to the NCAAs. Which would be a harder sell for fans who would want to name the court and entire buildings after him.

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