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 91 
 on: August 16, 2017, 10:51:51 am 
Started by charlietags - Last post by DamnRam
You do understand that 99.9 percent of multimillion dollar gifts come at the end of a fairly lengthy cultivation and negotiation.  The scenerio where a wealthy donor calls any school and says, "i'm coming over with a bag of money that i want you to accept", virtually never happens.  The "issue" of accepting a gift from a controversial donor would never play out that way.

Yes, of course I do understood and have always understood that.  As I'm sure you know those questions are relevant whether it's Fordham considering Trump as part of a target list of potential donors, or vice versa.

FWIW, as to something like this virtually never happening, Trump is so impulsive I do think he's the kind of guy who would do such a thing.  The guy delights in being different, breaking norms, and being so "unprecedented".  Why would he consider making a sudden announcement of a donation?  He might suddenly feel the need to buy his way to a good reputation, to create yet another distraction, or to compromise a critic.  He would understand that going public first with a potential donation would put a lot of pressure on the administration which would work to his advantage in the negotiations which follow, and he could always just say if rejected that he actually withdrew the offer first and blame the administration.  It would actually be perfectly in character for him.

 92 
 on: August 16, 2017, 09:56:22 am 
Started by charlietags - Last post by An Old Coach
I was directly responding to Charlietag's and Xtey's political commentary that the reason Fordham might reject a gift from Trump is out of "political correctness" (as if that were the only reason a school might reject a gift).  There are a lot of practical and serious questions that any school's administration is going to ask in regards to accepting a gift from any major donor, especially one who is so incredibly "controversial" (to put it mildly).  For example:
  • What is the donor's "brand"?  Would putting the donor's name on one of our buildings constitute an endorsement of any positions which run contrary to what we stand for?
  • What is the risk the donor has said or done, or will say or do, something unacceptably stupid or perhaps even criminal?
  • Would the new arena bearing the name be a perpetual focal point for protests, activists from off-campus, etc. such that we are taking on extra security and publicity risks and costs far into the future?
  • Would there be any strings attached?  What expectations will be created about what we will have to do for the donor?
  • Would the donor actually honor his pledge and in accordance with whatever agreement is struck? Does this donor have a known problem with keeping his promises or attempting to renegotiate deals?
  • Do we even want to accept a gift which forces us to do something which is not on our top priority list (especially if it means we have to put up the rest, and we're really stretched) and which brings with it so much "risk" of the above?

Just to state the obvious:  Trump IS the POTUS, and he generates an astonishing amount of unforced controversy (both deliberately and unintentionally) practically every day.  It's simply not possible or reasonable to think you can discuss a university possible accepting a major gift from such a person in a totally apolitical way.  Trust me when I say I was actually being quite restrained on this matter given all that could be said.  I was actually holding back out of respect for the board.

You do understand that 99.9 percent of multimillion dollar gifts come at the end of a fairly lengthy cultivation and negotiation.  The scenerio where a wealthy donor calls any school and says, "i'm coming over with a bag of money that i want you to accept", virtually never happens.  The "issue" of accepting a gift from a controversial donor would never play out that way.

 93 
 on: August 16, 2017, 09:41:40 am 
Started by HKRam - Last post by Chaka001
Highly doubt a Canadian team would happen but if it does my guess is it would be the Pioneer or patriot League.

I would still love for the patriot league to develop into a larger conference maybe with two divisions (10-12 TEAMS)

 94 
 on: August 16, 2017, 09:34:35 am 
Started by dajr - Last post by Chaka001
Agreed on the trenches.  I mentioned this in my prediction and referred to UT-Chat.  I sure hope I am wrong but I have a hunch EWU will be like many of the state FCS programs that are in the shadows of monster FBS programs.  They get the leftovers (great talent but a few inches too short or a few tenths of a second too slow, FBS players who will not get enough playing time, got hurt and do not want to wait to compete for playing time and those who get homesick.  Add in the serious redshirting and viola, it is a big time challenge to compete against these powerhouse FCS programs.  Not saying we cannot win, but this is where coaching and turnovers can loom very large in helping pull off an upset.

It is hard to say but I think we may have a better chance of beating Army than EWU.
We will be dogs in both, but both games are winnable
GO RAMS!

 95 
 on: August 16, 2017, 08:27:07 am 
Started by charlietags - Last post by shortshot
To borrow from someone else.

Secondly, come on!
+100

 96 
 on: August 16, 2017, 07:20:37 am 
Started by charlietags - Last post by DamnRam
To borrow from someone else.

Secondly, come on!

Fine.  I probably could have left out the specific questions in the name of "brevity" and then followed up with those if needed.  I included them only to show there was substance behind my point about there being legitimate concerns that have nothing to do with "political correctness".

 97 
 on: August 16, 2017, 06:25:32 am 
Started by charlietags - Last post by 85

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zh4wtA-ykA

 98 
 on: August 16, 2017, 05:59:24 am 
Started by charlietags - Last post by ace93
I was directly responding to Charlietag's and Xtey's political commentary that the reason Fordham might reject a gift from Trump is out of "political correctness" (as if that were the only reason a school might reject a gift).  There are a lot of practical and serious questions that any school's administration is going to ask in regards to accepting a gift from any major donor, especially one who is so incredibly "controversial" (to put it mildly).  For example:
  • What is the donor's "brand"?  Would putting the donor's name on one of our buildings constitute an endorsement of any positions which run contrary to what we stand for?
  • What is the risk the donor has said or done, or will say or do, something unacceptably stupid or perhaps even criminal?
  • Would the new arena bearing the name be a perpetual focal point for protests, activists from off-campus, etc. such that we are taking on extra security and publicity risks and costs far into the future?
  • Would there be any strings attached?  What expectations will be created about what we will have to do for the donor?
  • Would the donor actually honor his pledge and in accordance with whatever agreement is struck? Does this donor have a known problem with keeping his promises or attempting to renegotiate deals?
  • Do we even want to accept a gift which forces us to do something which is not on our top priority list (especially if it means we have to put up the rest, and we're really stretched) and which brings with it so much "risk" of the above?

Just to state the obvious:  Trump IS the POTUS, and he generates an astonishing amount of unforced controversy (both deliberately and unintentionally) practically every day.  It's simply not possible or reasonable to think you can discuss a university possible accepting a major gift from such a person in a totally apolitical way.  Trust me when I say I was actually being quite restrained on this matter given all that could be said.  I was actually holding back out of respect for the board.

To borrow from someone else.

Firstly, some brevity would be appreciated.

Secondly, come on!

 99 
 on: August 16, 2017, 05:29:51 am 
Started by charlietags - Last post by RealDeal
Thanks ace

+1

 100 
 on: August 16, 2017, 02:59:34 am 
Started by dajr - Last post by PA Ram
http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2017/aug/15/lean-on-us-say-eastern-washington-offensive-lineme/?amp-content=amp

According to the article their OL sounds big, tough AND experienced

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