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« on: February 17, 2017, 07:51:27 am »

just read that liberty is making the jump to FBS. Big move and very surprising but shows that it can be done at smaller private schools. Especially now with the era of mega conferences these lower tier fbs conferences like the sun belt , c USA need schools like this to survive .

Just saying it an he done .
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« Reply #1 on: February 17, 2017, 08:07:18 am »

sure it can be done, but the question is SHOULD it be done. Unless there's wide sweeping changes across the university and we first build a state of the art basketball arena and student center it's not even worth thinking about. Even still, I'd rather join the CAA or convince Nova and similar schools to join the PL. None of the above are happening.
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« Reply #2 on: February 17, 2017, 08:54:05 am »

Liberty is a school on the rise as enrollment is continuing to grow.They also have a large online program.
I have driven by the campus and stadium, yet not really walked the campus but it is very nice.  Located on the outskirts of Lynchburg, VA. 

I am not sure if I get the fascination with moving up to FBS unless you can get into a better conference.  Maybe the budget to do so what not be that much more?
I am not sure Conf USA and Sunbelt would be a draw to the student body and community.  Not to sounds snotty, but I would much prefer Conf USA over the Sunbelt as at least the schools have some name recognition.

NY brings up valid points, plus sadly NYC is a pro sports town.
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« Reply #3 on: February 17, 2017, 09:48:26 am »

No reason at all to even consider FBS for Fordham.  It brings nothing to the table.  This has been a goal for Liberty for 30 years.  Good for them.

If we can just get the PL to pick up a couple of more schools I think we're in a great place.  Richmond may take a look at some point.  Maybe a Monmouth, Duquesne, Elon or Charleston Southern or VMI...  Get the conference to 10 and I think we'd make some noise. 
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« Reply #4 on: February 17, 2017, 10:48:37 am »

I graduated in '13....I will be older than Old Coach before we make the switch  Wink

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« Reply #5 on: February 17, 2017, 11:15:20 am »

No reason at all to even consider FBS for Fordham.  It brings nothing to the table.  This has been a goal for Liberty for 30 years.  Good for them.

If we can just get the PL to pick up a couple of more schools I think we're in a great place.  Richmond may take a look at some point.  Maybe a Monmouth, Duquesne, Elon or Charleston Southern or VMI...  Get the conference to 10 and I think we'd make some noise. 

You say "they" have wanted to go fbs for over 30 years? Who is they? I doubt the same administration is still in place since the 1980's plotting a move to division 1 football.... so what suddenly changed after the 30 years of planning and hoping to go D1. Why now ?
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« Reply #6 on: February 17, 2017, 12:41:21 pm »

You say "they" have wanted to go fbs for over 30 years? Who is they? I doubt the same administration is still in place since the 1980's plotting a move to division 1 football.... so what suddenly changed after the 30 years of planning and hoping to go D1. Why now ?

Back when Sam Rutigliano was the coach at Liberty in the late '80's, (then Liberty Baptist) he would talk about the program moving up to anyone who would listen.  He had a pretty good run there and it was tough being a I-AA independent.  He had pretty strong connections in the NY area and did a lot of recruiting up here.  I think he started his career at Greenwich High School and was at a school in Westchester.  Anyway, when he was hired back then, University President Jerry Falwell said the goal was to be D-I.  They've built a pretty successful program, Turner Gill is a good coach. I guess they've done their homework, have made the case and figure now is the time.  As for the administration, Jerry Falwell founded the school and his son is the president now.  I guess they talked about it once or twice.
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« Reply #7 on: February 17, 2017, 04:12:07 pm »

It goes back to institutional priority.  Right now our facilities are below our peers in the PL (sans Georgetown).  If we moved to the CAA  I think we bump along bottom to middle of the standings (unless improvements were made).

As far as FBS   Fordham unfortunately doesn't even provide adequate training and meeting facilities for its student athletes in FCS football and A-10 bball.   I guess we could play our home games in Met Life Stadium or Bronx MLS stadium   but what conference would we join?    but one can dream..
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« Reply #8 on: February 17, 2017, 04:38:35 pm »

just read that liberty is making the jump to FBS. Big move and very surprising but shows that it can be done at smaller private schools. Especially now with the era of mega conferences these lower tier fbs conferences like the sun belt , c USA need schools like this to survive .

Just saying it an he done .

It's not the we can't, it's that we don't want to. And that's ok.
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