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« Reply #30 on: March 31, 2017, 01:18:40 pm »

That's great - thanks.  Still wish they would have him listed on the roster but that's a calming link.  Thank you

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« Reply #31 on: April 03, 2017, 10:36:20 pm »

http://www.espn.com/blog/new-york-jets/post/_/id/67879/our-mini-mock-draft-jets-chart-a-course-to-lattimore-island

some publicity for Fordham and Phazahn in ESPN article

Fordham flash: An intriguing local product is Fordham tight end Phazahn Odom, who is 6-foot-7, 251 pounds. He showed good hands last week at his pro day and ran the 40 in 4.75 seconds, which he believes will improve once he's fully recovered from hip surgery last November. Odom's production dipped as a senior, but he impressed in 2015 -- 37 catches, 492 yards and seven touchdowns. The Jets had two scouts at his pro day. He could be a priority free agent.

"I've heard a few people compare me to Julius Thomas," Odom told me. "We have a similar background. He was a basketball player and started playing football. He just came out of nowhere. I feel like I have the potential to do that. Just get to the league and learn from the older guys and coaches. I feel like I'm capable of being a starter in the league."
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« Reply #32 on: April 04, 2017, 07:13:48 pm »



"I've heard a few people compare me to Julius Thomas," Odom told me. "We have a similar background. He was a basketball player and started playing football. He just came out of nowhere. I feel like I have the potential to do that. Just get to the league and learn from the older guys and coaches. I feel like I'm capable of being a starter in the league."
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If this is anywhere close to accurate , our coaching staff should be fired. The Julius Thomas of the patriot league would certainly have more than 14 catches in a season..
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« Reply #33 on: April 05, 2017, 06:37:20 am »


"I've heard a few people compare me to Julius Thomas," Odom told me. "We have a similar background. He was a basketball player and started playing football. He just came out of nowhere. I feel like I have the potential to do that. Just get to the league and learn from the older guys and coaches. I feel like I'm capable of being a starter in the league."


If this is anywhere close to accurate , our coaching staff should be fired. The Julius Thomas of the patriot league would certainly have more than 14 catches in a season..

And if he's not " a Julius Thomas" do you think our coaches will get to go a day with the "Why not Phazem?" scrutiny and doubt?
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« Reply #34 on: April 05, 2017, 07:20:16 am »


"I've heard a few people compare me to Julius Thomas," Odom told me. "We have a similar background. He was a basketball player and started playing football. He just came out of nowhere. I feel like I have the potential to do that. Just get to the league and learn from the older guys and coaches. I feel like I'm capable of being a starter in the league."


If this is anywhere close to accurate , our coaching staff should be fired. The Julius Thomas of the patriot league would certainly have more than 14 catches in a season..

He had hip surgery in November. Wonder how that impacted his season. Additionally, the comparison isn't to Julius Thomas as a pro... it's to the fact he had very limited football experience before reaching the pros.
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« Reply #35 on: April 06, 2017, 08:15:32 am »

He had hip surgery in November. Wonder how that impacted his season.


I did not know this - this was definitely a huge reason for his drop off. I initially assumed it was an attitude/effort thing in practice that had seawright playing more - but it looks like it was out of phazahns control. huh.

I don't know the details but with that in mind he probably had one of those seasons where he's at 75% but gutted it out to get on the field...and then it caught up to him.
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« Reply #36 on: April 06, 2017, 09:08:41 am »


"I've heard a few people compare me to Julius Thomas," Odom told me. "We have a similar background. He was a basketball player and started playing football. He just came out of nowhere. I feel like I have the potential to do that. Just get to the league and learn from the older guys and coaches. I feel like I'm capable of being a starter in the league."


If this is anywhere close to accurate , our coaching staff should be fired. The Julius Thomas of the patriot league would certainly have more than 14 catches in a season..

Get serious.  What was our record last season?

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« Reply #37 on: April 06, 2017, 10:53:50 am »

I did not know this - this was definitely a huge reason for his drop off. I initially assumed it was an attitude/effort thing in practice that had seawright playing more - but it looks like it was out of phazahns control. huh.

I don't know the details but with that in mind he probably had one of those seasons where he's at 75% but gutted it out to get on the field...and then it caught up to him.

If he was hurt all season, I give him a lot of credit for fighting through something that needed surgery right after the season concluded - a hip injury no less. Could explain a lot. I would love for the Giants, or even the Jets, to take a chance on him.
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« Reply #38 on: April 14, 2017, 01:06:38 pm »

Phazahn had a workout with San Francisco, along with the Jets and Giants local workout day according to the link below.

http://www.nfldraftdiamonds.com/4-14-2017/
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« Reply #39 on: April 15, 2017, 11:24:36 am »

Only problem I had with Odom was he dropped way too many passes. I hope he has improved on that score. Also he really needs to be about 270 -275 as tall as he is. Good luck to him.
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« Reply #40 on: April 18, 2017, 11:36:48 am »

http://www.metro.us/sports/new-york/phazahn-odom-can-finally-see-his-nfl-future

Phazahn Odom can finally see his NFL future
The Fordham product and NFL hopeful can clearly see after receiving contact lenses and glasses.


I don't know if bizarre is the right word.  Strange?   It took him 21 years to figure out he had vision issues?   The coaching staff did not pick up on it...  In film sessions, chalkboard work and practice either squinting or trouble locating the ball.

Maybe a convenient excuse for not catching the ball as well as he should have.   Regardless , IMO there is a decent chance he gets drafted in the 6th or 7th round.  There are not too many 6'8 250 pound  4.7 40 guys out there.  I'm guessing an NFL staff feels  they can coach him up.  Honestly his ceiling is probably higher than majority of TE's coming out this year.  The big question is will he continue to improve.     
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« Reply #41 on: April 18, 2017, 11:44:26 am »

http://www.metro.us/sports/new-york/phazahn-odom-can-finally-see-his-nfl-future

Phazahn Odom can finally see his NFL future
The Fordham product and NFL hopeful can clearly see after receiving contact lenses and glasses.


I don't know if bizarre is the right word.  Strange?   It took him 21 years to figure out he had vision issues?   The coaching staff did not pick up on it...  In film sessions, chalkboard work and practice either squinting or trouble locating the ball.

Maybe a convenient excuse for not catching the ball as well as he should have.   Regardless , IMO there is a decent chance he gets drafted in the 6th or 7th round.  There are not too many 6'8 250 pound  4.7 40 guys out there.  I'm guessing an NFL staff feels  they can coach him up.  Honestly his ceiling is probably higher than majority of TE's coming out this year.  The big question is will he continue to improve.     

Very Strange considering he was aware of his vision issues. Guess he thought he just didn't need 20/20 on the field?!
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« Reply #42 on: April 18, 2017, 11:54:15 am »

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2007-04-29/sports/0704280152_1_lsu-draft-guide-surgery

Same thing happened to Duane Bowe (even though he was a consistent fantasy let down for me)   Undecided
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« Reply #43 on: April 18, 2017, 11:59:28 am »

Figure this is his agent dressing up up his draft/free agent prospects

But it is kind of an odd approach at his age to be saying, if only I could have seen the ball in college I could have caught it
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« Reply #44 on: April 18, 2017, 01:21:59 pm »

Unreal. Can anyone here confirm that an eye exam is not part of the standard physical that players undergo?  Hard to believe any team would let that go by the boards.
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« Reply #45 on: April 18, 2017, 02:41:28 pm »

Figure this is his agent dressing up up his draft/free agent prospects

But it is kind of an odd approach at his age to be saying, if only I could have seen the ball in college I could have caught it

He actually says in the article he didn't have a problem in college because he could track the "white stripe" on the ball. The problem arose when trying to track and catch the NFL ball, where no white stripe exists.
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« Reply #46 on: April 19, 2017, 10:03:36 am »

Unreal. Can anyone here confirm that an eye exam is not part of the standard physical that players undergo?  Hard to believe any team would let that go by the boards.

I definitely had one as part of our physical - but picture the quality of these physicals with 100 big sweaty football palyers coming through one after another after another after another.

I can't imagine they were very thorough and I wouldn't be surprised if something fell through the cracks.

All that being said..... I'm rooting for Odom, but this looks like an attempt to rectify his drops to scouts. Who knows.

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« Reply #47 on: April 19, 2017, 02:53:28 pm »

questions abot Phazam are Lessing as we Speak
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« Reply #48 on: April 20, 2017, 04:32:28 pm »

I still believe that Odom has a really good shot at getting drafted. Like it was said before, there are not that many 6'8" 250 guys moving the way he does. In my opinion, he seemed faster than a 4.7. I think he would have had a better time if it was not for his surgery. He still may be recovering from that. One of the coaches also said that he caught the ball really well during his pro day which helped him out a lot. Maybe the contacts helped out after all Wink
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« Reply #49 on: April 21, 2017, 02:44:11 pm »

His physical stature is enough to get looks, but Dan Light was a far superior TE for us, and i'd continue to give him an NFL shot as opposed to Odom. A lot of NFL teams consider kids at smaller schools bc they believe they haven't gotten the coaching that some of these kids at bigger schools get, especially when they possess the physical talents that Odom has. I wish him the best of luck, but I see no NFL future for him as his consistency lacked, it always seemed like he was 'banged up' and just never dominated the way a guy with those gifts should.

I'd be happy to be wrong, but not a lot to suggest him being an NFL caliber guy
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« Reply #50 on: April 23, 2017, 04:32:32 pm »

Interesting story on the A-10 website about VCU's Men's BB player Mo Alie-Cox signing a contract with the NFL's Colts.  As a fifth year senior, he was ineligible for the NFL draft.

http://www.atlantic10.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=31600&ATCLID=211568790&_ga=1.153649329.820695378.1492978664

Alie-Cox has not played FB since 9th grade.  Nonetheless, he impressed the Colts enough that they sign him as a potential TE.  I am certain Odom is on the radar of multiple teams.  However, I am not certain a team will use a draft pick on him.  If he is left undrafted, I expect he will sign with a team and will be given a chance to show his skills in a camp.
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« Reply #51 on: April 23, 2017, 04:47:28 pm »

Interesting story on the A-10 website about VCU's Men's BB player Mo Alie-Cox signing a contract with the NFL's Colts.  As a fifth year senior, he was ineligible for the NFL draft.

http://www.atlantic10.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=31600&ATCLID=211568790&_ga=1.153649329.820695378.1492978664

Alie-Cox has not played FB since 9th grade.  Nonetheless, he impressed the Colts enough that they sign him as a potential TE.  I am certain Odom is on the radar of multiple teams.  However, I am not certain a team will use a draft pick on him.  If he is left undrafted, I expect he will sign with a team and will be given a chance to show his skills in a camp.

I remember Frank Thomas (is that the right name?) giving FB a shot after a great hoops career at Fordham.  He was absolutely huge.  Started out at TE with supposed NFL interest and soon was put in as a punt and kick blocking specialist only.  For a long time the NFL and college teams have been looking to pilfer kids from other sports but it doesn't usually work out imo.  Frank was a very nice guy btw. 
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« Reply #52 on: April 24, 2017, 06:52:27 am »

I remember Frank Thomas (is that the right name?) giving FB a shot after a great hoops career at Fordham.  He was absolutely huge.  Started out at TE with supposed NFL interest and soon was put in as a punt and kick blocking specialist only.  For a long time the NFL and college teams have been looking to pilfer kids from other sports but it doesn't usually work out imo.  Frank was a very nice guy btw. 
You may be referring to Frank Williams.  We had a bball player gain a starting spot as a db with the NY Giants.  I believe his name is Ken Parker.
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« Reply #53 on: April 24, 2017, 08:14:56 am »

You may be referring to Frank Williams.  We had a bball player gain a starting spot as a db with the NY Giants.  I believe his name is Ken Parker.
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« Reply #54 on: April 24, 2017, 12:44:36 pm »

I certainly don't have the ability to play hoops at Fordham or in the giants secondary....but it is worth noting that ken parker did this 50 years ago and Odom's situation is a completely different one.

Great to hear that he's a good guy and he has such a cool story

http://archive.northjersey.com/sports/football/professional-football-was-parker-s-destiny-1.1452142?page=all


- sounds like he's been representing Fordham well for years!
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« Reply #55 on: April 24, 2017, 01:09:35 pm »

You may be referring to Frank Williams.  We had a bball player gain a starting spot as a db with the NY Giants.  I believe his name is Ken Parker.
Ken was a strong shut down defensive guard on the bb team who got drafted in the 16th round by the Giants.  He played one year, starting 7 games, but was never able to fully translate his bb defensive prowess to pro fb.
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« Reply #56 on: April 24, 2017, 01:11:42 pm »

Ken was a strong shut down defensive guard on the bb team who got drafted in the 16th round by the Giants.  He played one year, starting 7 games, but was never able to fully translate his bb defensive prowess to pro fb.

I'm sure his knee injury in '68 had something to do with that.
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« Reply #57 on: April 24, 2017, 01:20:39 pm »

I certainly don't have the ability to play hoops at Fordham or in the giants secondary....but it is worth noting that ken parker did this 50 years ago and Odom's situation is a completely different one.

Great to hear that he's a good guy and he has such a cool story

http://archive.northjersey.com/sports/football/professional-football-was-parker-s-destiny-1.1452142?page=all


- sounds like he's been representing Fordham well for years!
Fordham and Giant's Trainer was Johnny Deigal (spelling). Also one of the nicest men you would ever meet.
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« Reply #58 on: April 27, 2017, 01:15:49 pm »

interestingly enough Carson Wentz had eye surgery as well AFTER his rookie year.

http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2017/04/26/my-eyes-are-my-career-carson-wentz-undergoes-vision-correction-surgery/
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« Reply #59 on: May 01, 2017, 10:50:31 am »

No news is not good news- or is it still early.....
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