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« on: April 16, 2017, 11:09:29 am »

Catching some Sunday sun on the deck...I had started an 'outgoing' transfer list a few weeks back, so now its time for my Athlon-style incoming list. Lets combine the two iists...I'm a better price than Blue Ribbon.

Note: It's very weird to see 'Antwoine Anderson, UCONN"


OUTGOING

Dayton (1) - G John Crosby, JR - TBD
Duquesne (4) - G Rene Castro, RS JR - TBD, F Isiaha Mike, SO - SMU, F Nayke Sanders, JR - Towson, G Spencer Littleson, SO - Toledo
Fordham (2) - G Antwoine Anderson, SR - UCONN, F Christian Sengfelder, SR - Boise St.
George Mason (3) - G DeAndre Abram, JR - TBD, F Danny Dixon, JR - UMKC, G Kameron Murrell, JR - St. Thomas Aquinas (DII)
George Washington (3) - F Collin Goss, JR - Delaware, F Kevin Marfo, SO - Quinnipiac, G Jordan Roland, JR - Northeastern
La Salle (1) - F Yevgen Sakhniuk, SR - Philadelphia
UMASS (6) - G DeJon Jarreau, SO, F Brison Gresham - SO, F Zach Coleman, RS JR - LIU Brooklyn, G Zach Lewis, GS - Iona, F Seth Berger, SR - Oregon St., F Tyrn Flowers, SO - TBD
Richmond (1) - G Jesse Pistokache, JR - Salem Int.
Saint Louis (3) - F Zeke Moore, SO - Tenn Tech, C Matt Neufeld, JR - TBD, F Austin Gillman, SR - TBD
VCU (2) - C Ahmed Hamdy-Mohmmad, SR - TCU, F Mayan Kiir, FR - LSU



INCOMING

Davidson (5)
G Kellan Grady, FR (****4 STARS) - #29 PG nationally
G Carter Collins, FR (**2 STARS)
F Luke Frampton, FR (**2 STARS)
F Dusan Kovacevic, RS (***3 STARS)
F KiShawn Pritchett, RS (**2 STARS)

Dayton (4)
G Jordan Davis, FR (***3 STARS)
F Jordan Pierce, FR (** 2 STARS) - #52 C nationally
F Matej Svoboda, FR (**2 STARS)
F Kostas Antetokounmpo, RS (***3 STARS)

Duquesne (8)
G Craig Randall, JR - Memphis / TRANSFER
G Tavian Dunn-Martin, SO - Akron / TRANSFER
C Michael Hughes, SO - Akron / TRANSFER
G Erick Williams, FR - (**2 STARS)
F Marko Krivacevic, JUCO
F Lewis Djonkam, PG
F Nicholas Kratholm, FR
F Marcus Weathers, SO - Miami Ohio / TRANSFER

Fordham (3)
G Perris Hicks, JR / JUCO
G Antwon Portley, RS JR - St. Peters / TRANSFER
G Tre Evans, SO / JUCO

George Mason (6)
F Goanar Mar, FR (***3 STARS) - #48 PF nationally
F Greg Calixte, FR (**2 STARS)
G Javon Greene, FR (**2 STARS)
F AJ Wilson, RS (***3 STARS)
F Daniel Relvao, RS (**2 STARS)
F Jarred Reuter, JR - UVA / TRANSFER

George Washington (4)
G Maceo Jack, FR (**2 STARS)
G Justin Mazzulla, FR (** 2 STARS) - #89 PG nationally
G Terry Nolan, FR
G Armel Potter JR - Charleston Southern / TRANSFER

La Salle (5)
G Traci Carter, JR - Marquette / TRANSFER
G Jamir Moultrie, FR (***4 STARS) - #70 PG nationally
F Miles Brookins, FR (***3 STARS) - #80 PF nationally
F Dajour Joseph, FR (**2 STARS)
C Cian Sullivan, RS (**2 STARS)

UMASS (5)
G Curtis Cobb, JR - Fairfield / TRANSFER
G Unique McLean, RS (***3 STARS)
G Jaylen Brantley, SR - Maryland / TRANSFER
F Jonathan Laurent, SO - Rutgers / TRANSFER
G Keon Clergeot, SO - Memphis / TRANSFER

Rhode Island (2)
G Daron Russell, FR (***3 STARS) - #37 PG nationally
C Michael Tertsea, RS (***3 STARS)

Richmond (5)
G Jacob Gilyard, FR (***3 STARS)
F AJ Ford, FR (**2 STARS)
F Bryce Schneider, FR (**2 STARS)
G Nathan Cayo, FR (**2 STARS)
G Tomas Verbinskis, FR (**2 STARS) - #65 SF nationally

St. Joseph's (2)
F Taylor Funk, FR (***3 STARS) - #57 PF nationally
F Anthony Longpre (**2 STARS)

Saint Louis (4)
G Jordan Goodwin, FR (****4 STARS) - #13 SG nationally
G Ty Graves, SO - Boston College / TRANSFER
F Hahsan French, FR (***3 STARS) - #15 PF nationally
F Luis Santos, JR - South Florida / TRANSFER

St. Bona (2)
F Tshiefu Ngalakulondi, FR (**2 STARS) - #73 SF nationally
F Ndene Gueye, JUCO (TX)

VCU (7)
F Sean Mobley, FR (***3 STARS) - #35 PF nationally
F Marcos Santos-Silva, FR (**2.5 STARS) - #43 C nationally
F Isaac Vann, SO - Maine / TRANSFER
G Marcus Evans, JR - Rice / TRANSFER
F Khris Lane, SR - Longwood / TRANSFER
F Lewis Djonkam, FR
G Tyler Maye, FR
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« Reply #1 on: April 16, 2017, 11:43:57 am »

https://www.si.com/college-basketball/2017/03/14/college-basketball-transfers-cinderella-ncaa-tournament

Good story on how "up-transfers" (Paschall is mentioned) are killing low- and mid-major programs.

I personally think the NCAA should just ban grad transfers--make eligibility strictly for undergrads. I also think they should make regular transferring even harder--who cares if a kid makes a bad choice of colleges? That's his problem--suck it up. You're not going to the NBA anyway, so what difference does it make? Playing somewhere and for someone you hate will help crush your dreams a little more quickly, which is a good thing...  Evil
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« Reply #2 on: April 16, 2017, 11:45:26 am »

Duquesne:
G Mikey Dixon, FR to St. John's

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« Reply #3 on: April 16, 2017, 12:00:52 pm »

Duquesne:
G Mikey Dixon, FR to St. John's

Dixon from Q?
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« Reply #4 on: April 16, 2017, 12:13:09 pm »

Dixon from Q?
My mistake.
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« Reply #5 on: April 16, 2017, 12:29:12 pm »

My mistake.

no problem. keep the edits/adds coming, many to come over the next month.
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« Reply #6 on: April 16, 2017, 12:34:36 pm »

no problem. keep the edits/adds coming, many to come over the next month.

Maybe we will show up on list of incoming Smiley
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« Reply #7 on: April 16, 2017, 12:36:07 pm »

For VCU Samir Doughty played this past season and your missing Maine transfer Issac Vann for them.
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« Reply #8 on: April 16, 2017, 12:36:41 pm »

This is concerning - JN changed his recruiting staff last year and they have done nothing. There are programs that had coaching changes this year and they were still able to quickly sign players. I hope we can at least get some international players.
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« Reply #9 on: April 16, 2017, 12:42:46 pm »

Catching some Sunday sun on the deck...I had started an 'outgoing' transfer list a few weeks back, so now its time for my Athlon-style incoming list. Lets combine the two iists...I'm a better price than Blue Ribbon.

Note: It's very weird to see 'Antwoine Anderson, UCONN"


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OUTGOING

Fordham (2)
G Antwoine Anderson, SR - UCONN
F Christian Sengfelder, SR - Boise St.

George Mason (3)
G DeAndre Abram, JR - TBD
F Danny Dixon, JR - TBD
G Kameron Murrell, JR - TBD

George Washington (3)
F Collin Goss, JR - TBD
F Kevin Marfo, SO - TBD
G Jordan Roland, JR - TBD

Duquesne (3)
G Rene Castro, RS JR - TBD
F Isiaha Mike, SO - TBD
F Nayke Sanders, JR - TBD

UMASS (2)
F Zach Coleman, RS JR
G Zach Lewis, RS JR

VCU (1)
C Ahmed Hamdy-Mohmmad, SR - TBD
F Mayan Kiir, FR - LSU

Richmond (1)
G Jesse Pistokache, JR - TBD

Saint Louis (2)
F Zeke Moore, SO - TBD
C Matt Neufeld, JR - TBD

La Salle (1)
F Yevgen Sakhniuk, SR - Philadelphia


INCOMING

Davidson (5)
G Kellan Grady, FR (****4 STARS)
G Carter Collins, FR (**2 STARS)
F Luke Frampton, FR (**2 STARS)
F Dusan Kovacevic, RS (***3 STARS)
F KiShawn Pritchett, RS (**2 STARS)

Dayton (4)
G Jordan Davis, FR (***3 STARS)
F Jordan Pierce, FR (** 2 STARS)
F Matej Svoboda, FR (**2 STARS)
F Kostas Antetokounmpo, RS (***3 STARS)

Duquesne (4)
G Craig Randall, JR - Memphis / TRANSFER
G Tavian Dunn-Martin, SO - Akron / TRANSFER
C Michael Hughes, SO - Akron / TRANSFER
G Erick Williams, FR - (**2 STARS)

Fordham (0)

George Mason (5)
F Goanar Mar, FR (***3 STARS)
F Greg Calixte, FR (**2 STARS)
G Javon Greene, FR (**2 STARS)
F AJ Wilson, RS (***3 STARS)
F Daniel Relvao, RS (**2 STARS)

George Washington (2)
G Maceo Jack, FR (**2 STARS)
G Justin Mazzulla, FR (** 2 STARS)

La Salle (5)
G Traci Carter, JR - Marquette / TRANSFER
G Jamir Moultrie, FR (***4 STARS)
F Miles Brookins, FR (***3 STARS)
F Dajour Joseph, FR (**2 STARS)
C Cian Sullivan, RS (**2 STARS)

UMASS (2)
G Curtis Cobb, JR - Fairfield / TRANSFER
G Unique McLean, RS (***3 STARS)

Rhode Island (2)
G Daron Russell, FR (***3 STARS)
C Michael Tertsea, RS (***3 STARS)

Richmond (5)
G Jacob Gilyard, FR (***3 STARS)
F AJ Ford, FR (**2 STARS)
F Bryce Schneider, FR (**2 STARS)
G Nathan Cayo, FR (**2 STARS)
G Tomas Verbinskis, FR (**2 STARS)

Saint Louis (4)
G Jordan Goodwin, FR (****4 STARS)
G Ty Graves, SO - Boston College / TRANSFER
F Hahsan French, FR (***3 STARS)
F Elliott Welmer, RS (**2 STARS)

St. Joseph's (2)
F Taylor Funk, FR (***3 STARS)
F Anthony Longpre (**2 STARS)

St. Bona (2)
F Tshiefu Ngalakulondi, FR (**2 STARS)
F Makol Mawien, RS JR (Utah) (***3 STARS)

VCU (3)
F Sean Mobley, FR (***3 STARS)
F Marcos Santos-Silva, FR (**2.5 STARS)
G Samir Doughty, RS (***3 STARS)

Not waving the white flag yet but not having a single commitment yet is a joke and its become more of an issue with some of the guys leaving. Even schools that were supposedly going to take a step back due to graduation have done very well. The Daytons and VCUs have started reloading. Meanwhile Its April 16th Mid day. JN do you know where your recruits are?
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« Reply #10 on: April 16, 2017, 04:26:12 pm »

Not waving the white flag yet but not having a single commitment yet is a joke and its become more of an issue with some of the guys leaving. Even schools that were supposedly going to take a step back due to graduation have done very well. The Daytons and VCUs have started reloading. Meanwhile Its April 16th Mid day. JN do you know where your recruits are?

Again, how many graduates stay for the grad year at the same school? Doesnt seem like too many. right now Neubie didnt lose any of his recruits from the past season. Slanina is 6ft 11 and could be a real force, nobody had any info on him until we signed him. Havsa was a complete unknown. I think we have to  wait this out and see what we have at the end of the signing period.
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« Reply #11 on: April 16, 2017, 04:46:01 pm »

Welmer played for SLU last year.  Also, seems like some of these guys were signed more than a year ago, so am not sure why Perris Hicks is not on the ledger as a Fordham add.  Except I know that goes against the where are the recruits narrative.
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« Reply #12 on: April 16, 2017, 05:40:58 pm »

Welmer played for SLU last year.  Also, seems like some of these guys were signed more than a year ago, so am not sure why Perris Hicks is not on the ledger as a Fordham add.  Except I know that goes against the where are the recruits narrative.

Welmer gone. Will add Hicks, thanks.
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« Reply #13 on: April 16, 2017, 07:07:48 pm »

Zach Lewis (UMASS) to Iona.
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« Reply #14 on: April 16, 2017, 09:53:00 pm »

Another good story on up-transferring--in this case, how it's affecting the NEC...

http://www.nycbuckets.com/2017/03/the-nec-becoming-the-g-league-of-mid-majors
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« Reply #15 on: April 16, 2017, 11:15:16 pm »

I'm not sure if Fordham fans should hit the panic button over recruiting just yet, but the safety cover's off the button, and it's blinking. Just saying.
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« Reply #16 on: April 17, 2017, 07:29:31 am »

Former Saint Louis G Zeke Moore is transferring to Tennessee Tech. (HT @earlaustinjr) @zeke_moore24 verbalcommits.com/pl…
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« Reply #17 on: April 17, 2017, 10:59:24 am »

Again, how many graduates stay for the grad year at the same school? Doesnt seem like too many. right now Neubie didnt lose any of his recruits from the past season. Slanina is 6ft 11 and could be a real force, nobody had any info on him until we signed him. Havsa was a complete unknown. I think we have to  wait this out and see what we have at the end of the signing period.

Okay I will buy that but if that is the case you would have thought we would have had a commitment or 2 by now if JN had anticipated all these departures assuming he was thinking along your lines that not many graduates stay at the same school.
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« Reply #18 on: April 17, 2017, 12:15:26 pm »

Because of Social Media, most recruiting info comes from the players themselves. I don't see any interest in FU out there. Collins said we were on his "final" list of 4 teams and now he is visiting schools that were not on that list. Matt Ryan has recently given a list of teams and FU is not one of them. GW is on his list so it is not that he is only looking at elite conferences. I think it is evident that JN has put together a weak recruiting staff.  They seem to have no HS BB connections - at least not in the USA. They need to be aggressive in the early signing period because the late signing period has become a feeding time for the big programs. One thing about Pecora - he sold FU hard. Whether it was a recruit, an alum or media - he was always promoting the school with the BB program. We never hear anything from this staff. You never see JN or his staff out there marketing. There does not seem to be any positive energy coming from this program.  Its like we need to fuse Pecora and JN together and we would have what we need.
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Because of Social Media, most recruiting info comes from the players themselves. I don't see any interest in FU out there. Collins said we were on his "final" list of 4 teams and now he is visiting schools that were not on that list. Matt Ryan has recently given a list of teams and FU is not one of them. GW is on his list so it is not that he is only looking at elite conferences. I think it is evident that JN has put together a weak recruiting staff.  They seem to have no HS BB connections - at least not in the USA. They need to be aggressive in the early signing period because the late signing period has become a feeding time for the big programs. One thing about Pecora - he sold FU hard. Whether it was a recruit, an alum or media - he was always promoting the school with the BB program. We never hear anything from this staff. You never see JN or his staff out there marketing. There does not seem to be any positive energy coming from this program.  Its like we need to fuse Pecora and JN together and we would have what we need.

Utter nonsense.

A few of Pecora's fusion gems included the two Fay brothers. Neither was any level D1, they got a ton of press and a big article about them committing early and they were garbage recruits. Lets see, hmmm, Pecora got a lot of press about the PG from Canada, Jermaine Myers, he was horrendous. Who else, Mannay Suarez from Jersey....big news at signing...he is at Adelphi.........Luka Zivkovic, D2 Fatty McMillan, D2, Jeff Short (Norfolk), Travion Leoanrd (D2)....fake news......

Ill take JN and his approach, he wins games. He is a basketball coach not a used car salesman.  Anyone can pump up a recruit with some clowns that masquerade as sports writers......most of the Pecora blogger and publicity info was pumping up horrible recruits who ended up leaving and playing down a level....

JN is not in bed with these fake sportswriters like Pecora was. You think Slanina was a bad signing, a skilled 6ft 11 guy?  Havsa.....looked pretty darned good to me when he had to step up for JC......Hicks is a wait and see, Taveres clearly has A-10 skill set, needs to refine his game a bit next year but a pretty good  player......

Trust me I am not giving the staff a pass on recruiting but how much recruiting and signing hype have we seen turn out to be completely off the mark? Ill wait till I see the guys on the floor, in uniform.  Ironically, the only two guys who have left on JN were Hardnett and smith and both of those guys were being linked to Major programs....they both went back to JUCO......take it for what it is........
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« Reply #20 on: April 17, 2017, 01:15:22 pm »

I don't think we're in Isaac Kante's final list, either, and he was a priority recruit for us. We're just too easy to recruit against with our dismal history. I don't know if this staff is weak or strong recruiters. They just have a hard sell, a bad product, a product easily disparaged by rival coaches. [Case in point; Fred Quartlebaum recruited high quality kids to Notre Dame, and the nucleus of a national champion squad to North Carolina. Kansas is getting good kids too. At St. John's -- not so good. It's the product you have to sell.

Ali Ton's a "niche" recruiter. He's got some foreign contacts he's using for Fordham. But those are HIS contacts, not Fordham's, and presumably they fade if he moves on.

Hopefully, the other coaches are making inroads, but from what I'm hearing, the negative recruiting by other schools against Fordham is off the charts right now. We may very well be forced to recruit kids from overseas and from far away, where the school is less well known and the coaches we're competing against don't have the full arsenal of "oppo" that gets thrown against us. "The last player to have a winning 3- or 4-year career at Fordham is older than your father" is a line that would give many a young recruit pause. But it's effective, because it happens to be true.
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« Reply #21 on: April 17, 2017, 01:16:26 pm »

Utter nonsense.

A few of Pecora's fusion gems included the two Fay brothers. Neither was any level D1, they got a ton of press and a big article about them committing early and they were garbage recruits. Lets see, hmmm, Pecora got a lot of press about the PG from Canada, Jermaine Myers, he was horrendous. Who else, Mannay Suarez from Jersey....big news at signing...he is at Adelphi.........Luka Zivkovic, D2 Fatty McMillan, D2, Jeff Short (Norfolk), Travion Leoanrd (D2)....fake news......

Ill take JN and his approach, he wins games. He is a basketball coach not a used car salesman.  Anyone can pump up a recruit with some clowns that masquerade as sports writers......most of the Pecora blogger and publicity info was pumping up horrible recruits who ended up leaving and playing down a level....

JN is not in bed with these fake sportswriters like Pecora was. You think Slanina was a bad signing, a skilled 6ft 11 guy?  Havsa.....looked pretty darned good to me when he had to step up for JC......Hicks is a wait and see, Taveres clearly has A-10 skill set, needs to refine his game a bit next year but a pretty good  player......

Trust me I am not giving the staff a pass on recruiting but how much recruiting and signing hype have we seen turn out to be completely off the mark? Ill wait till I see the guys on the floor, in uniform.  Ironically, the only two guys who have left on JN were Hardnett and smith and both of those guys were being linked to Major programs....they both went back to JUCO......take it for what it is........


Your missing my point. Salinina, Hicks, Tavares & Ohams were brought in by a different set of recruiters. The current guys (Ton & Di Palo) have brought in 1 player (Havasa) who is Intl. They do not seem to have any pull in the USA. They lost out on their top target (Graves) during early signing. He signed with Buffalo within days of an in home visit with our staff .I guess they really left a great impression. The current staff can't seem to close a deal. Has DiPalo ever functioned as a recruiter before?
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« Reply #22 on: April 17, 2017, 01:19:14 pm »

Utter nonsense.

A few of Pecora's fusion gems included the two Fay brothers. Neither was any level D1, they got a ton of press and a big article about them committing early and they were garbage recruits. Lets see, hmmm, Pecora got a lot of press about the PG from Canada, Jermaine Myers, he was horrendous. Who else, Mannay Suarez from Jersey....big news at signing...he is at Adelphi.........Luka Zivkovic, D2 Fatty McMillan, D2, Jeff Short (Norfolk), Travion Leoanrd (D2)....fake news......

Ill take JN and his approach, he wins games. He is a basketball coach not a used car salesman.  Anyone can pump up a recruit with some clowns that masquerade as sports writers......most of the Pecora blogger and publicity info was pumping up horrible recruits who ended up leaving and playing down a level....

JN is not in bed with these fake sportswriters like Pecora was. You think Slanina was a bad signing, a skilled 6ft 11 guy?  Havsa.....looked pretty darned good to me when he had to step up for JC......Hicks is a wait and see, Taveres clearly has A-10 skill set, needs to refine his game a bit next year but a pretty good  player......

Trust me I am not giving the staff a pass on recruiting but how much recruiting and signing hype have we seen turn out to be completely off the mark? Ill wait till I see the guys on the floor, in uniform.  Ironically, the only two guys who have left on JN were Hardnett and smith and both of those guys were being linked to Major programs....they both went back to JUCO......take it for what it is........
+1 There is no hype over JN's recruits but they all show skills or potential at the A10 level. He has to recruit players other programs miss and/or with potental to develop. IMHO he has done better than any coach we have had in the past 20 years.
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« Reply #23 on: April 17, 2017, 01:36:35 pm »

That's a different point than in your post.  You were championing Pecora and how he recruited. Most of the Pecora recruits were nothing but D2 frauds, who were pumped up and hyped by unscrupulous sports bloggers.

Your new point is that the current staff only signed one guy. Its only fair to wait and see who they get.....or don't get.......... you can't evaluate these guys on paper .......gotta wait it out and see them in uniform..
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Hopefully, the other coaches are making inroads, but from what I'm hearing, the negative recruiting by other schools against Fordham is off the charts right now. 

Here is how you combat negative recruiting. .....we are offering you a scholarship that would have cost you a half a million dollars!  You want to go some state school, that would be free anyway! 

That's negative to positive to negative recruiting......
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« Reply #25 on: April 17, 2017, 01:51:00 pm »

That's a different point than in your post.  You were championing Pecora and how he recruited. Most of the Pecora recruits were nothing but D2 frauds, who were pumped up and hyped by unscrupulous sports bloggers.

Your new point is that the current staff only signed one guy. Its only fair to wait and see who they get.....or don't get.......... you can't evaluate these guys on paper .......gotta wait it out and see them in uniform..

I think JN is much better coach than Pecora but his recruits still have a lot to prove. JN has really lived off Pecora's recruits (Rhoomes, JC, AA, CS etc.). I don't expect any coach to have a roster of 13 A10 players but you at least need 5 -6.  Salinina looks like he might be one. Ohams and Havsa have potential but they have not had enough opportunity to prove it yet. All I know is that Pecora is back as an Assistant (which is where he probably should be) and QU is loading up with decent players and we are waiting .
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« Reply #26 on: April 17, 2017, 02:45:50 pm »

Doesn't Crawford also recruit?  He did fairly well at Eastern Kentucky.  And Uken brought in guys at Bradley (who didn't all stay, of course).

I do think that it is a tough sell, but you do have NYC, the Atlantic-10, etc.  And opportunity. 

It's a shame this year didn't turn out a little better.  A rough start and rough finish.  But 9-9 conference (Duquesne 1 and GW games were so winnable) and an A-10 tourney win, and above .500 overall and a post-season visit (take Manhattan and Sacred Heart too), and that's an easier sell.  Even with guys leaving ("Hey, we're building great things and you will have playing time").  It's hard to tell kids that 13-19 and 7-11 is actually an improvement and things are looking up compared to most of the last decade or 2.   
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« Reply #27 on: April 17, 2017, 04:05:11 pm »

Here is how you combat negative recruiting. .....we are offering you a scholarship that would have cost you a half a million dollars!  You want to go some state school, that would be free anyway! 

That's negative to positive to negative recruiting......

Yeah, but the kid responds by saying, "So I'm getting a free education wherever I go, cool. Now tell me what the facilities and prospects are like . . .   !"
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« Reply #28 on: April 17, 2017, 04:12:22 pm »

Yeah, but the kid responds by saying, "So I'm getting a free education wherever I go, cool. Now tell me what the facilities and prospects are like . . .   !"

honest transcription of a typical recruit, it's more like..."i need to insta this pic of the gym so that this random girl thinks i'm a big deal..."

The six rows of bleachers with a sepia filter just doesn't impress
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« Reply #29 on: April 17, 2017, 05:17:58 pm »

A few summers back I played in Long Beach with a couple of terrific young players. They were off to SUNY Plattsburgh in September.  Told me that they were #1 in attendance in D3, had a beautifully refurbished locker room and a beautiful 2,000 seat arena. ....having choosing same over Amherst, Babson and Hobart.....so there is your answer on how many of these players think across the board..
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