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« Reply #30 on: May 25, 2017, 04:06:26 pm »

Just a reminder that Kenny Charles played in the NBA for five years.
Dan O' Sullivan also played 5 years in the NBA albeit not that outstanding...
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Ed Conlin played 7 years in NBA scoring close to 5,000 points....
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« Reply #31 on: May 25, 2017, 04:09:18 pm »

Respectfully, you can't compare eras. Ashanti Burke would have been Bill Russell on that 1955 team.
It is true.. Different eras and different times.... but.. still believe Ed Conlin and Jim Cunningham would have fit in nicely in today's game.
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« Reply #32 on: May 25, 2017, 04:09:40 pm »

Bevon
Maxwell
Paterno
Lopez
Dunston

Might lack shooting (I'd also consider Prioleu at one of the G spots to help out there), but they would rebound!
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« Reply #33 on: May 25, 2017, 04:21:14 pm »

I have to replace Bevon with Smush.  Pure talent wise Smush was the only NBA player we've had.   It is also really tough leaving Prioleau and J-Rock off the team. 

I tend to forget Smush b/c he just had a cup of coffee here, but you are right he should be on.

I think Bevon was better than Prioleau.

As much as I liked J-Rock, I think he is a notch below Bevon and Prioleau.

To me, Fuzzy was as pure a point guard as I have seen at FU, but he could score when needed. I don't think you can have 5 score-first type guys on the same list. I guess I was building a team more than just listing the best 5 guys.
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« Reply #34 on: May 25, 2017, 05:09:59 pm »

Our Joe Paterno was a very good player. Did he win the Hagerty Award
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« Reply #35 on: May 25, 2017, 05:27:40 pm »

Our Joe Paterno was a very good player. Did he win the Hagerty Award
No.... Fordham players who won Haggerty include, Ed Conlin (twice), Jim Cunningham, Charles Yelverton, and Tom Sullivan...
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« Reply #36 on: May 25, 2017, 05:29:16 pm »

Since 1954...

Ed Conlin
Jim Cunningham
Charley Yelverton
Ken Charles
Smush Parker

For rebounding and scoring, I'd find a place for Dan Lyons on the roster, as well as Bill McCadney for rebounding.

If your question implied 3 or 4-year players or having graduated, I might sub Bevon Robin for Smush, but Smush was an incredible and unique talent.
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« Reply #37 on: May 25, 2017, 05:54:41 pm »

Bob Melvin (1960-63) should also be considered - 1323 points and over 600 rebounds in 3 years at a time when freshman weren't on the varsity team.
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« Reply #38 on: May 25, 2017, 06:11:19 pm »

Nice work on other NBA players Danny O did play in the NBA.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_O%27Sullivan
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« Reply #39 on: May 25, 2017, 06:21:11 pm »

Charley Yelverton also played in the NBA. He was drafted 25th by the Portland Trailblazers, but after I believe in his 2nd year he was blackballed from the NBA for not standing when the National Anthem was played.  He then he went to Europe where he was a huge success.

I saw him play against the Knicks at MSG.
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« Reply #40 on: May 25, 2017, 06:22:53 pm »

Charley Yelverton also played in the NBA. He was drafted 25th by the Portland Trailblazers, but after I believe in his 2nd year he was blackballed from the NBA for not standing when the National Anthem was played.  He then he went to Europe where he was a huge success.

I saw him play against the Knicks at MSG.

That sounds like the same game I attended.
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« Reply #41 on: May 25, 2017, 06:23:48 pm »

Conlin
Cunningham
Yelverton
Charles
Dunston
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« Reply #42 on: May 25, 2017, 07:16:17 pm »

Charley Yelverton also played in the NBA. He was drafted 25th by the Portland Trailblazers, but after I believe in his 2nd year he was blackballed from the NBA for not standing when the National Anthem was played.  He then he went to Europe where he was a huge success.

I saw him play against the Knicks at MSG.
My bad to forget about Charley "Y" in the NBA....You are correct about his being blackballed...He refused to stand for the National Anthem along with Bill Walton...Charley "Y" never played in the NBA the next season, went to Italy where he became a local "legend" and a basketball hero.  He later married an Italian girl, raised a family there, and I believe, still resides there.  Bill Walton, being Bill Walton, never
was "punished" by the NBA.
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« Reply #43 on: May 25, 2017, 08:04:27 pm »

My bad to forget about Charley "Y" in the NBA....You are correct about his being blackballed...He refused to stand for the National Anthem along with Bill Walton...Charley "Y" never played in the NBA the next season, went to Italy where he became a local "legend" and a basketball hero.  He later married an Italian girl, raised a family there, and I believe, still resides there.  Bill Walton, being Bill Walton, never
was "punished" by the NBA.

Alan, Charley's buddy was Sidney Wicks, not Bill Walton.
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« Reply #44 on: May 25, 2017, 08:46:21 pm »

Has any Ram exceeded Tony McIntosh's all state (football 7 Basketball) in two sports?
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« Reply #45 on: May 25, 2017, 08:52:23 pm »

Started following in 2000:

C - Dunston
PF - Haynes
SF - Gaston
SG - Smush
PG Robin
Coach-Johnny Bach
Asst. "the bad coach"
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« Reply #46 on: May 26, 2017, 01:01:48 am »

Watching since 1970 --

Damon Lopez
Bryant Dunston
Darryl Brown
Kenny Charles*
Charlie Yelverton

* Imagine how JN's system would work if he had a player who could put the ball in the hoop like Kenny.
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« Reply #47 on: May 26, 2017, 08:00:53 am »

1. Jack Burik- PG
2. Kenny Charles- super skilled.
3. Jim Cunningham- has some pretty sick numbers. Basing solely on stats, since i never saw him play.
4. Maurice Curtis- short history, but worthy.
5. Damon Lopez- difference maker, shot blocker, rebounder, all around big man.

6th man (ill deviate): David Maxwell-

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« Reply #48 on: May 26, 2017, 08:13:37 am »

No Ed Conlin takers?   Harsh.
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« Reply #49 on: May 26, 2017, 08:16:23 am »

Our Joe Paterno was a very good player. Did he win the Hagerty Award

No, but he was a very solid all around ball player. 4 year starter.
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« Reply #50 on: May 26, 2017, 09:37:37 am »

Alan, Charley's buddy was Sidney Wicks, not Bill Walton.
Ram 71- Thank you... All these years I thought it was Bill Walton...
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« Reply #51 on: May 26, 2017, 10:02:09 am »

Been watching since 84...I think Yelverton should be here, but I will stick to players I saw...

C Damon Lopez
F Bryant Dunston
F Sebastian Greene
G Bevon Robin
G Jean Prileau
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« Reply #52 on: May 26, 2017, 10:10:38 am »

Green over Herzog?   Must be potential interesting call.

By the way this is a great fun thread.
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« Reply #53 on: May 26, 2017, 10:49:37 am »

Green over Herzog?   Must be potential interesting call.

By the way this is a great fun thread.

I'm shocked.  Greene does not even come close to giving a team what Herzog could.
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« Reply #54 on: May 26, 2017, 11:06:14 am »

I would pick both Haynes and Herzog over Green
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« Reply #55 on: May 26, 2017, 11:12:21 am »

I would pick both Haynes and Herzog over Green

Agreed. Haynes was the better athlete, Herzog the more complete basketball player.
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« Reply #56 on: May 26, 2017, 11:50:10 am »

No Ed Conlin takers?   Harsh.

Good point. I only excluded him because I never saw him play, which I thought was the implied question. In my five, he'd put D Brown on the bench.
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« Reply #57 on: May 26, 2017, 12:50:10 pm »

Has any Ram exceeded Tony McIntosh's all state (football 7 Basketball) in two sports?
Rob Baxter may have made an all state team in both sports.  As I recall, he broke all of King Rice's football and basketball records at their h.s.  McIntosh was a good football player, but I don't think he was all-state in football.
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« Reply #58 on: May 26, 2017, 12:56:40 pm »

Nice work on other NBA players Danny O did play in the NBA.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_O%27Sullivan
Danny bounced around the NBA for years.  Mostly 10 day contracts, but still impressive.  Speaks to the quality of our late 80s early 90s teams.  Everyone remembers Damon as an all time great at center, but one of our few and most recent representatives in the NBA often gets overlooked.
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« Reply #59 on: May 26, 2017, 01:49:06 pm »

I'm shocked.  Greene does not even come close to giving a team what Herzog could.

Greene was one of my favorite players to watch. His athleticism was off the charts. I agree that I wouldn't include him in a top 5 though.
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