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« Reply #60 on: May 26, 2017, 03:55:35 pm »

1. Jack Burik- PG
2. Kenny Charles- super skilled.
3. Jim Cunningham- has some pretty sick numbers. Basing solely on stats, since i never saw him play.
4. Maurice Curtis- short history, but worthy.
5. Damon Lopez- difference maker, shot blocker, rebounder, all around big man.

6th man (ill deviate): David Maxwell-

HC: Tom "Gene Wilder" Penders
 
From strictly a PG standpoint, Jack was a very good, heady player.  Not sure I'd put him in the top 5 all-around though. 
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« Reply #61 on: May 26, 2017, 04:26:42 pm »

Pistol Pete Jacquinto
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« Reply #62 on: May 26, 2017, 04:47:16 pm »

Danny bounced around the NBA for years.  Mostly 10 day contracts, but still impressive.  Speaks to the quality of our late 80s early 90s teams.  Everyone remembers Damon as an all time great at center, but one of our few and most recent representatives in the NBA often gets overlooked.
Enjoyed watching Danny play. Played for Utah & Nets at a minimum in NBA. Great heart. Great hands not so great stamina. Didn't know him, but from what I heard, great teammate
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« Reply #63 on: May 26, 2017, 08:27:08 pm »

SeaBass was a terrific talent. He turned that talent into him becoming a pretty good basketball player. Imagine what he could have become under a good coach. Fred Herzog was the winningest men's basketball player ever so he deserves mention.

I agree with the names mentioned above, but would add Bob Melvin. Jerry Hobbie, Mark Murphy, and Eddie Bona. I would drop Paschall. He played one year and while he was good, he was not at the level of the others mentioned in this thread.
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« Reply #64 on: May 26, 2017, 08:37:24 pm »

Has any Ram exceeded Tony McIntosh's all state (football 7 Basketball) in two sports?

Kenny Parker was an All State QB in NJ. He was also a very good basketball player but probably not All State. He was recruited to play football but was told that he could not be a college QB (thankfully our society has changed). He decided that if he could not be a QB then he would play basketball. John Bach was one of the few coaches recruiting him to play basketball because everyone thought he was going to play football.

At least that was the story from many years ago.
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« Reply #65 on: May 26, 2017, 10:43:44 pm »

Has any Ram exceeded Tony McIntosh's all state (football 7 Basketball) in two sports?

He played at Randolph High in NJ.  Randolph was a powerhouse in football in the 80's and early 90's.
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« Reply #66 on: May 26, 2017, 10:44:26 pm »

Kenny Parker was an All State QB in NJ. He was also a very good basketball player but probably not All State. He was recruited to play football but was told that he could not be a college QB (thankfully our society has changed). He decided that if he could not be a QB then he would play basketball. John Bach was one of the few coaches recruiting him to play basketball because everyone thought he was going to play football.

At least that was the story from many years ago.

if we had an All Time Best Defensive Starting Five thread, he would be on my list
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« Reply #67 on: May 26, 2017, 11:25:32 pm »

if we had an All Time Best Defensive Starting Five thread, he would be on my list
For sure!
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« Reply #68 on: May 27, 2017, 06:42:34 am »

Drafted by the Giants as a corner and was briefly a starter. Never saw anyone play defense like KP .
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« Reply #69 on: May 27, 2017, 08:52:10 am »

Here's a thought: Burik, Mainor, Charles, Yelverton and take your pick of Woytowicz, Zambetti and Sullivan was a Sweet 16 team and fell short of a perfect regular season by 3 points. If you saw them play you understand. If not, you can't.
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« Reply #70 on: May 27, 2017, 09:20:34 am »

Kenny Parker was an All State QB in NJ. He was also a very good basketball player but probably not All State. He was recruited to play football but was told that he could not be a college QB (thankfully our society has changed). He decided that if he could not be a QB then he would play basketball. John Bach was one of the few coaches recruiting him to play basketball because everyone thought he was going to play football.

At least that was the story from many years ago.
Kenny Parker was a complete "shut down" defensive guard.  The very best I ever saw play in a Fordham uniform.  In his Senior year, Mel Graham-NYU was one heck of a scorer, and I was looking forward to that match up with great expectations.  Sadly, Graham got injured and the match up never happened. 
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« Reply #71 on: May 27, 2017, 09:23:42 am »

Drafted by the Giants as a corner and was briefly a starter. Never saw anyone play defense like KP .
Don't believe he was ever a starter though...Played two years...Wellington Mara loved Fordham and was pleased to give Kenny Parker a chance to make the team and play. 
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« Reply #72 on: May 27, 2017, 12:01:34 pm »

Back when Kenny played "defensive specialist" was a euphemism for a guard who could not score. I remember reading an article that said Kenny was the first to be a real defensive specialist.
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« Reply #73 on: May 27, 2017, 01:44:24 pm »

SeaBass was a terrific talent. He turned that talent into him becoming a pretty good basketball player. Imagine what he could have become under a good coach. Fred Herzog was the winningest men's basketball player ever so he deserves mention.

I agree with the names mentioned above, but would add Bob Melvin. Jerry Hobbie, Mark Murphy, and Eddie Bona. I would drop Paschall. He played one year and while he was good, he was not at the level of the others mentioned in this thread.

Hobbie, Murphy and Bona were all good players under Penders. In fact Penders always managed to get the most out of good players. Don't forget guys like Billie Calhoun, Don Mccormick, Steven Samuels and even Dud Tongal. The one guy IMO that stood out was mentioned already was David Maxwell. The guy wasn't the greatest shooter but he has so many intangibles. Just a real winner.
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« Reply #74 on: May 27, 2017, 02:30:22 pm »

Happy to see Don McCormack's name mentioned, he and Paterno...... solid player in a wonderful time for Fordham basketball.

My "all time backcourt playing together" was Jerry Hobbie and Tony McCintosh.  both clutch shooters in games that mattered.... especially at the Garden.
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« Reply #75 on: May 27, 2017, 03:27:44 pm »

McCormick was an incredibly tough defender. The year St. John's went to the Final Four, he gave Chris Mullin all he could handle in a tough 47-46 loss at the Garden. Manhattan's Tim Cain probably still has a bruised ribcage from being defended by Don. Cain had this very high jump shot he took from the corner, and McCormick probably made Cain think he was in the corner of a boxing ring.

McIntosh and Hobbie were amazing to watch as a backcourt. They appeared to communicate by ESP, with each one completing the other's thoughts and moves. They could swing in and out of the PG role interchangeably, which caused many a headache for defenders. When Mark Murphy came in to play a 3-guard configuration with them, he just latched into the ESP himself (although Mark had a slightly different skill set).  Those teams were just so fun to watch, and they were so tough-minded, you were never out of a game.
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« Reply #76 on: May 27, 2017, 03:32:43 pm »

McCormick was an incredibly tough defender. The year St. John's went to the Final Four, he gave Chris Mullin all he could handle in a tough 47-46 loss at the Garden. Manhattan's Tim Cain probably still has a bruised ribcage from being defended by Don. Cain had this very high jump shot he took from the corner, and McCormick probably made Cain think he was in the corner of a boxing ring.
I used to play with Don when I was a senior in h.s.  He had already graduated Fordham, but he brought the same intensity to our pick up games.  Tough guy.
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« Reply #77 on: May 27, 2017, 03:51:18 pm »

I used to play with Don when I was a senior in h.s.  He had already graduated Fordham, but he brought the same intensity to our pick up games.  Tough guy.

.... and Don cost me a girlfriend at Fordham  Angry

He was taller and better looking than me.  I couldn't compete at the time.  He might have saved me years of misery though.
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« Reply #78 on: May 29, 2017, 09:33:23 am »

Here's a thought: Burik, Mainor, Charles, Yelverton and take your pick of Woytowicz, Zambetti and Sullivan was a Sweet 16 team and fell short of a perfect regular season by 3 points. If you saw them play you understand. If not, you can't.
Are you sure above the3 longs, we lost to Teple and Marquette
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« Reply #79 on: May 29, 2017, 09:58:53 am »

Lost to Temple by one and Marquette by five but it doesn't change 106's point
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« Reply #80 on: May 30, 2017, 12:47:16 am »

Just a reminder that Kenny Charles played in the NBA for five years.
Mainor also made it to the NBA and then had a knee injury.
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« Reply #81 on: May 30, 2017, 02:08:59 pm »

Kenny Parker was an All State QB in NJ. He was also a very good basketball player but probably not All State. He was recruited to play football but was told that he could not be a college QB (thankfully our society has changed). He decided that if he could not be a QB then he would play basketball. John Bach was one of the few coaches recruiting him to play basketball because everyone thought he was going to play football.

At least that was the story from many years ago.

If true, sad to hear.  Especially disappointing since at one time we were one of the first schools in the country w/an African American QB.  Vinnie Drake was his name and he started for our 1949 freshman team.  But while Drake was putting up good numbers for the freshman, junior Dick Doheny, was leading the entire country in passing for the varsity club so there was no doubt as to who'd start in 1950.  Doheny had another strong campaign as a senior while Drake only came in for mop-up duty on a squad that went 8-1 and probably should have landed a bowl invite.  Drake was expected to breakout in '51 (Topps came out with a playing card for him) but missed the entire season w/an injury.  Finally in '52 he platooned w/Roger Franz and together the two allowed Fordham to again lead the entire nation in passing.  Drake came back as a 5th year senior in '53 but another injury cost him most of that season. 

To bring it back to hoops, he was also a reserve guard for Johnny Bach's teams that got to back-to-back tourney appearances.  So not an "all time best" but still probably one of the best all around athletes to ever play at Rose Hill.  Not to mention breaking the color barrier in two sports. 
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« Reply #82 on: May 31, 2017, 01:58:53 pm »

Conlin,Yelverton and Charles.  Bach was a truly fine coach although too often people select Phelps, a phony.
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« Reply #83 on: May 31, 2017, 11:40:07 pm »

Are you sure above the3 longs, we lost to Teple and Marquette

We lost to  Temple by 1 at Temple and to Marquette in 3 Overtimes in the Garden in one of the greatest games I ever listened to when they had Jimmy Chones 6'11" Center when our tallest guy was 6'6".  We lost to Villanova in the Eastern Semi's and then took 3rd beating South Carolina.

Later it was determined their player was ineligible and Nova forfeited all their games.  We wound up 8th in the country that year.
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« Reply #84 on: June 01, 2017, 12:19:20 am »

We lost to  Temple by 1 at Temple and to Marquette in 3 Overtimes in the Garden in one of the greatest games I ever listened to when they had Jimmy Chones 6'11" Center when our tallest guy was 6'6".  We lost to Villanova in the Eastern Semi's and then took 3rd beating South Carolina.

Later it was determined their player was ineligible and Nova forfeited all their games.  We wound up 8th in the country that year.
And if Woytowitz made a FT at the end of regulation, we would have beaten Marquette.
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« Reply #85 on: June 01, 2017, 06:03:02 am »

You mean Zambetti
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« Reply #86 on: June 01, 2017, 07:47:25 am »

Conlin,Yelverton and Charles.  Bach was a truly fine coach although too often people select Phelps, a phony.

John Bach spent 10 years at Penn State and was 122-121. He finished with 4 straight losing seasons at Penn State....
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« Reply #87 on: June 01, 2017, 08:01:53 am »

John Bach spent 10 years at Penn State and was 122-121. He finished with 4 straight losing seasons at Penn State....

Yep. John Bach was an outstanding gentleman. But he never made a post season tourney at Penn State. Digger might have been a phony but he was a very good coach.
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« Reply #88 on: June 01, 2017, 08:10:58 am »

Digger was 393-195 at Notre Dame.  He mad 14 NCAA tournament appearances at Notre Dame.

Bach was 1 game over .500 in 10 years at Penn State and never made the tournament.

Reality versus perception.
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« Reply #89 on: June 01, 2017, 08:14:12 am »

John Bach spent 10 years at Penn State and was 122-121. He finished with 4 straight losing seasons at Penn State....
No one wins at Penn State in basketball.  Who has been better than Johnny Bach since?
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