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« Reply #90 on: June 01, 2017, 08:15:30 am »

We lost to  Temple by 1 at Temple and to Marquette in 3 Overtimes in the Garden in one of the greatest games I ever listened to when they had Jimmy Chones 6'11" Center when our tallest guy was 6'6".  We lost to Villanova in the Eastern Semi's and then took 3rd beating South Carolina.

Later it was determined their player was ineligible and Nova forfeited all their games.  We wound up 8th in the country that year.
I don't recollect three overtimes.  Wasn't it just one overtime vs. Marquette?
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« Reply #91 on: June 01, 2017, 08:16:45 am »

You mean Zambetti
Poor George: miss a free throw and people remember it 46 years later.
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« Reply #92 on: June 01, 2017, 08:17:54 am »

I don't recollect three overtimes.  Wasn't it just one overtime vs. Marquette?

Yes. And the Temple game was at RHG on a Saturday afternoon.
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« Reply #93 on: June 01, 2017, 09:08:21 am »

Yes. And the Temple game was at RHG on a Saturday afternoon.
Yes, I was there and didn't realize then how unusual it was going to be for our team to lose that year.  And leave it to Temple to beat us.  Was the great Harry Litwack still the Temple coach?
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« Reply #94 on: June 01, 2017, 10:03:43 am »

Litwack was still the coach at Temple, game was at RHG      Zambetti was the shooter vs Marquette, single OT, not 3         2 of the 3 losses that season were vs Phila. zone Ds, ironic since Digger background was at Penn
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« Reply #95 on: June 21, 2017, 05:01:35 pm »

Yes. And the Temple game was at RHG on a Saturday afternoon.

Thanks Guys amazing when you get old what tricks happen to your mind. Still pretty amazing stuff.
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« Reply #96 on: June 21, 2017, 06:57:33 pm »

Give me Jack Burik and 4 Charley Y's and I'm happy guy
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« Reply #97 on: June 21, 2017, 08:16:27 pm »

Give me Jack Burik and 4 Charley Y's and I'm happy guy

Jackie Burik was the best point guard I've seen play for Fordham. Hands down.
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« Reply #98 on: June 21, 2017, 11:55:02 pm »

You mean Zambetti
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« Reply #99 on: June 21, 2017, 11:57:14 pm »

Jackie Burik was the best point guard I've seen play for Fordham. Hands down.
As a true point guard, I'd have to agree.
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« Reply #100 on: June 22, 2017, 10:28:16 am »

As a true point guard, I'd have to agree.

A coach on the floor. Always got the ball to his teammates at the right time and spot, underrated defender who played the passing lanes well, very good shooter. He played point guard like be played shortstop on the FU Baseball team. Efficient and talented.

Didn't me make it to Triple A as a shortstop?
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« Reply #101 on: June 22, 2017, 01:09:41 pm »

Jack spent a couple of years in the Mets system, got as high as AA:

http://www.baseball-reference.com/register/player.fcgi?id=burik-001joh

Returned to his hometown and became a respected teacher and coach. A regular Doc Graham.
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« Reply #102 on: June 22, 2017, 02:48:19 pm »


To be clear... I'm not suggesting this point guard is a Top 5 starter.  But in a time when Fordham was playing exciting, competitive basketball... and consistently making the NIT, he was a quality contributor.  Especially in his Junior year:

Eric Brooks - 1987

http://www.nytimes.com/1986/01/09/sports/fordham-coach-thinks-positively.html

This article from 1986, before we played #1 UNC at the Garden, will bring back quite a few fun and relevant memories.  Many great quotes from Penders.  Including our place in NYC basketball relative to the strong St Johns teams (Walter Berry!).

Eric was a pure point guard.  Quick, active on D, unselfish.  And a really nice guy on campus.   BTW... this 85-86 team had a terrific freshman named Joe Paterno.   Overlooked too much in these memory lane discussions.

See the roster and schedule below.  Our OOC schedule included Arizona State, Brigham Young, Stanford, UNC, Notre Dame, Dayton, St. John's, Seton Hall,

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 F 6-6 2.0 Pts, 1.6 Reb

Eric Brooks
 G 5-9 7.2 Pts, 1.4 Reb, 3.2 Ast

Joe Franco
 G 6-5 7.5 Pts, 3.2 Reb, 2.6 Ast

Lonnie Jones
 G 6-4 5.2 Pts, 1.5 Reb, 1.2 Ast

Don McCormick
 F 6-5 6.0 Pts, 3.2 Reb, 0.9 Ast

Tom Parrotta
 F 6-5 9.2 Pts, 4.2 Reb, 0.6 Ast

Joe Paterno
 F 6-5 12.4 Pts, 4.4 Reb, 1.0 Ast

Fred Quartlebaum
 C 6-3 0.8 Pts, 0.2 Ast

James Robinson
 F 6-7 5.4 Pts, 3.5 Reb, 0.3 Ast

Goran Skoko
 C 6-10 2.6 Pts, 1.6 Reb, 0.0 Ast

Mark Taylor
 G 6-3 2.0 Pts, 0.8 Reb, 2.3 Ast

Frank Williams
 F 6-7 4.5 Pts, 3.8 Reb, 0.8 Ast


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Tue, Nov 26, 1985 REG @ Long Island University ECACM W 62 56  1 1 W 1 Schwartz Athletic Center

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Sat, Nov 30, 1985 REG  Monmouth ECACM W 63 54  2 1 W 2 Rose Hill Gym

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Tue, Dec 3, 1985 REG @ Hartford ECACN W 46 42  3 1 W 3 Hartford Civic Center

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Fri, Dec 6, 1985 REG @ Arizona State Pac-10 L 60 63  3 2 L 1 Wells Fargo Arena

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Sat, Dec 7, 1985 REG N Brigham Young WAC L 72 75  3 3 L 2 Wells Fargo Arena

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Wed, Dec 11, 1985 REG @ Seton Hall Big East L 66 73  3 4 L 3 Izod Center

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Sat, Dec 21, 1985 REG @ La Salle MAAC L 66 78  3 5 L 4 The Palestra

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Mon, Dec 23, 1985 REG  Columbia Ivy W 44 43  4 5 W 1 Rose Hill Gym

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Sun, Dec 29, 1985 REG N Stanford Pac-10 W 69 66  5 5 W 2 Lahaina Civic Center

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Sat, Jan 4, 1986 REG N Stetson A-Sun W 71 61  6 5 W 3 Lakeland Center

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Thu, Jan 9, 1986 REG N North Carolina (1) ACC L 68 92  6 6 L 1 Madison Square Garden (IV)

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Sat, Jan 11, 1986 REG @ Saint Peter's MAAC L 45 50  6 7 L 2 Yanitelli Center

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Thu, Jan 16, 1986 REG @ Manhattan MAAC W 87 58  7 7 W 1 Draddy Gymnasium

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Sat, Jan 18, 1986 REG @ Fairfield MAAC L 52 53  7 8 L 1 Alumni Hall

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Mon, Jan 20, 1986 REG  Holy Cross MAAC L 69 72  7 9 L 2 Rose Hill Gym

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Wed, Jan 22, 1986 REG N St. John's (NY) (8) Big East L 47 56  7 10 L 3 Madison Square Garden (IV)

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Sat, Jan 25, 1986 REG N Iona MAAC L 49 81  7 11 L 4 Madison Square Garden (IV)

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Mon, Jan 27, 1986 REG  Army MAAC W 63 56  8 11 W 1 Rose Hill Gym

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Wed, Jan 29, 1986 REG @ Dayton Ind L 59 64  8 12 L 1 University of Dayton Arena

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Sat, Feb 1, 1986 REG  La Salle MAAC W 70 54  9 12 W 1 Rose Hill Gym

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Tue, Feb 4, 1986 REG  Manhattan MAAC W 93 57  10 12 W 2 Rose Hill Gym

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Thu, Feb 6, 1986 REG  Fairfield MAAC L 47 55  10 13 L 1 Rose Hill Gym

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Sat, Feb 8, 1986 REG  Saint Peter's MAAC W 60 42  11 13 W 1 Rose Hill Gym

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Tue, Feb 11, 1986 REG @ Notre Dame (14) Ind L 58 81  11 14 L 1 Purcell Pavilion at the Joyce Center

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Sat, Feb 15, 1986 REG N Iona MAAC L 44 59  11 15 L 2 Izod Center

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Sat, Feb 22, 1986 REG @ Holy Cross MAAC W 69 65  12 15 W 1 Hart Recreation Center

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Tue, Feb 25, 1986 REG @ Army MAAC W 76 63  13 15 W 2 Christl Arena
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« Reply #103 on: June 22, 2017, 04:46:26 pm »

Jack spent a couple of years in the Mets system, got as high as AA:

http://www.baseball-reference.com/register/player.fcgi?id=burik-001joh

Returned to his hometown and became a respected teacher and coach. A regular Doc Graham.

Heck of an athlete and leader. Always composed under fire. He had those sold out Garden games in the palm of his hand.
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« Reply #104 on: June 22, 2017, 04:52:46 pm »

my memory 7 bad calls from refs; last right in fron of Fordham Bench; time expired Phelps led Troops off court & you could hear a Pin Drop

One official get pelted with eggs that following Monday school teacher on Allerton Avenue school

It was a Major Happening
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« Reply #105 on: June 23, 2017, 02:21:54 pm »

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Nice guy who could move the ball. Had the misfortune of having Hobbie and McIntosh on the same team for 2 years. Then they brought in Mark Taylor to play PG with Andre McClendon waiting in the wings.

Eric was blatantly fouled twice while driving towards the hoop against Seton Hall in 1986. The Refs' blindness cost us the game.
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« Reply #106 on: June 26, 2017, 06:32:20 pm »


 Around 1950, my father was on freshman team at Fordham, was pretty good friends with Vinnie Drake among others. He told me some interesting

inside stories. His memory is fading now. Vinnie was a tremendous talent and a quite a unique presence at Rose Hill. Had to compete

against Sonny Jurgensen when he was drafted.

http://www.nhregister.com/article/NH/20100404/NEWS/304049999
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« Reply #107 on: June 29, 2017, 04:21:19 pm »

My 2 Cents

  Watching since 68/69








                                                                                                                                                                                                     
Charley Y-   Haven't seen anything close to his all around dominance since. Magical to watch.

Kenny Charles- tremendous shooter/could have sworn he hit for 63 one game (St Peter's ?)

Darryl Brown- undersized center, one of the best athletes in college at position. Saw him dominate Shumate and Tom McMillen at Garden. Great defender, inside scorer, rebounder

Billy Mainor- solid all around ,was drafted,believe he lives in Philly, one alum told me spoke to him two years ago.

Smush- big talent/ Bevon - terrific,a leader   either one 

               Maxwell, Macintosh, Jean, Dunston H.M.  Were all excellent

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« Reply #108 on: June 29, 2017, 04:56:30 pm »

My 2 Cents

  Watching since 68/69

                                                                                                                                                                                                    
Charley Y-   Haven't seen anything close to his all around dominance since. Magical to watch.

Kenny Charles- tremendous shooter/could have sworn he hit for 63 one game (St Peter's ?)

Darryl Brown- undersized center, one of the best athletes in college at position. Saw him dominate Shumate and Tom McMillen at Garden. Great defender, inside scorer, rebounder

Billy Mainor- solid all around ,was drafted,believe he lives in Philly, one alum told me spoke to him two years ago.

Smush- big talent/ Bevon - terrific,a leader   either one 

               Maxwell, Macintosh, Jean, Dunston H.M.  Were all excellent


A player hardly ever mentioned is Bill Langheld, who was drafted by the Celtics.  He scored 44 against Manhattan in the Garden.  He never seemed to reach his full potential however.  Langheld graduated in '68.


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« Reply #109 on: June 29, 2017, 05:26:41 pm »

A player hardly ever mentioned is Bill Langheld, who was drafted by the Celtics.  He scored 44 against Manhattan in the Garden.  He never seemed to reach his full potential however.  Langheld graduated in '68.


Bill suffered a back injury in his frosh year and never fully recovered. Auerbach saw him play against BC at RHG and drafted him. He was the last man cut from the Celtics.

I was at that game but my father told me that Auerbach commented to Marty Glickman during the game-"I don't know who the hell this guy Langheld is but I like him." 
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« Reply #110 on: June 29, 2017, 07:38:23 pm »

A player hardly ever mentioned is Bill Langheld, who was drafted by the Celtics.  He scored 44 against Manhattan in the Garden.  He never seemed to reach his full potential however.  Langheld graduated in '68.
Bill sank most of his shots from the left elbow.  They'd be 3 pointers nowadays.  His scoring was a large part of our record-setting home win streak that still stands today.
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« Reply #111 on: June 29, 2017, 07:45:12 pm »

Bill sank most of his shots from the left elbow.  They'd be 3 pointers nowadays.  His scoring was a large part of our record-setting home win streak that still stands today.

including a buzzer beating bomb against Seton Hall and a solid game against a very good Columbia team    his performance against Manhattan at MSG , albeit in a loss, was one of the best I have seen in person     he was a pleasure to watch and yes, many of his buckets would have been 3s with ease
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« Reply #112 on: June 29, 2017, 08:19:51 pm »

The best performance I ever saw was Charley Y against uUMass at UMass where he dominated Dr J
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