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Question: Would altering/enhancing the game day experience, including Homecoming increase revenue and attendance for Fordham football?
100% Yes, Get rid of the overcrowded tent and allow traditional tailgating - 10 (37%)
Most likely, our game day experience needs serious changes - 7 (25.9%)
I hate the game day experience.  I am here to watch football - 1 (3.7%)
We need to make some changes, but overall the game day experience is fine - 6 (22.2%)
Make no changes.  The game day experience is perfect - 3 (11.1%)
Total Voters: 27

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« on: November 08, 2017, 06:59:48 pm »

Would altering/enhancing the game day experience, including Homecoming increase revenue and attendance for Fordham football?
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« Reply #1 on: November 09, 2017, 06:54:35 am »

First, the answer selections don't flow with the question.  You also give no details on "gameday experience".  I'd advise a re-do.
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« Reply #2 on: November 09, 2017, 08:47:58 am »

Agree with AoC.  I donít mind the game day experience for this level of football but hated the tent ... but couldnít pick one and three together.  Think this should be either general game day poll or homecoming specific poll.  Just my .02
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« Reply #3 on: November 09, 2017, 09:14:09 am »

Part of me wonders if some people here realize that the tent situation is a Homecoming exclusive. Typical tailgating has been a blast the past 5-6 years.
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« Reply #4 on: November 09, 2017, 09:46:33 am »

Part of me wonders if some people here realize that the tent situation is a Homecoming exclusive. Typical tailgating has been a blast the past 5-6 years.

The tent situation is a disaster and the "typical tailgating" is on a preschool level compared to most other venues.
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« Reply #5 on: November 09, 2017, 10:01:27 am »

The tent situation is a disaster and the "typical tailgating" is on a preschool level compared to most other venues.

Then go to other venues
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« Reply #6 on: November 09, 2017, 12:14:38 pm »

Then go to other venues

+ 1,000,000,000,000 and counting.

Ram-Louse seldom has anything good to say about Fordham and should do us all a favor and just go away. Let him go to those other venues that, according to him,  do things so well. He certainly won't be missed here.
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« Reply #7 on: November 09, 2017, 12:19:55 pm »

Wow, yet another thread on the same subject.  I'm underwhelmed, and not surprised to see who started it.

I would add an option for "This thread is unnecessary as it has been discussed to death in other threads."
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« Reply #8 on: November 09, 2017, 12:33:08 pm »

Nobody goes there anymore, it's too crowded!

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« Reply #9 on: November 09, 2017, 01:01:55 pm »

Part of me wonders if some people here realize that the tent situation is a Homecoming exclusive. Typical tailgating has been a blast the past 5-6 years.

I think we can do both.  Surprising how many people took transit this weekend.

Strict Alcohol rules in the tailgating lot, though.

At some point Lot A will be used as a new facility, We need labs and classrooms.  At that point, the Parking garage will be a lousy tailgating venue.

The "Grassy Knoll"  Evil between Houlihan Park and Lot A could support a few Hospitality Tents, it's relatively flat. 

There is also Arthur Ave, I'm surprised they don't have a street festa that day. A bit of a hike, but I knew a few young alums who went there instead of the tent.

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« Reply #10 on: November 09, 2017, 01:43:04 pm »

https://lehighfootballnation.blogspot.com/2017/10/fordham-shows-lehigh-how-to-win.html

food for thought found in an outside perspective:

"As I left Fordham, a campus filled with happy Fordham students and happy Fordham parents and elated Fordham football players, I was filled with dread.

Somehow, Fordham is getting this football thing right.  They are creating a great gameday atmosphere, whether they're 6-2 or 2-6, and coming up with a product that people are excited to watch. The Rams have a neat, old-school stadium that isn't the biggest in the world, but it was a fun place to watch a football game.  The tailgates were open late.  The lot was packed.  The students were all over campus, well after the game had concluded.  Fordham's campus was a neat place to be.  Even the halftime show, featuring "Drums of Thunder", the 4th and 5th grade drumline from Montclair, NJ, had all 8,000 fans or so in attendance on their feet.

And then I think of Lehigh's home game vs. Penn - a similar day in a lot of respects, a hot, beautiful day and a packed campus.

Yet Murray Goodman Stadium saw fewer fans, less charm, and an uneven performance on the field by the home team on that day.  In all three aspects, Fordham's performance outdid Lehigh's on Family Day easily."


... idk, but maybe it's the tent that has to go (never been myself), not the rest? was it really that bad?

 if nothing else, this anecdote serves to confirm why on campus stadiums are so important.

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« Reply #11 on: November 09, 2017, 01:59:31 pm »

https://lehighfootballnation.blogspot.com/2017/10/fordham-shows-lehigh-how-to-win.html

food for thought found in an outside perspective:

"As I left Fordham, a campus filled with happy Fordham students and happy Fordham parents and elated Fordham football players, I was filled with dread.

Somehow, Fordham is getting this football thing right.  They are creating a great gameday atmosphere, whether they're 6-2 or 2-6, and coming up with a product that people are excited to watch. The Rams have a neat, old-school stadium that isn't the biggest in the world, but it was a fun place to watch a football game.  The tailgates were open late.  The lot was packed.  The students were all over campus, well after the game had concluded.  Fordham's campus was a neat place to be.  Even the halftime show, featuring "Drums of Thunder", the 4th and 5th grade drumline from Montclair, NJ, had all 8,000 fans or so in attendance on their feet.

And then I think of Lehigh's home game vs. Penn - a similar day in a lot of respects, a hot, beautiful day and a packed campus.

Yet Murray Goodman Stadium saw fewer fans, less charm, and an uneven performance on the field by the home team on that day.  In all three aspects, Fordham's performance outdid Lehigh's on Family Day easily."


... idk, but maybe it's the tent that has to go (never been myself), not the rest? was it really that bad?

 if nothing else, this anecdote serves to confirm why on campus stadiums are so important.



I think Homecoming needs to be fixed, but the tailgating during any other game is fine, and I've always had a lot of fun. You'll need to deal with security guards pestering you to go to the game, but isn't that the reason we are there anyways?
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« Reply #12 on: November 09, 2017, 03:02:51 pm »


https://lehighfootballnation.blogspot.com/2017/10/fordham-shows-lehigh-how-to-win.html

The Rams have a neat, old-school stadium that isn't the biggest in the world, but it was a fun place to watch a football game.

Funny, I never thought of Fordham's half-stadium as "old-school", unless you compare it to a high school which had stands on only one side of the field.  It's an absolutely beautiful setting, the parking lot is very close and all, but I can't say it's a "fun" place to actually watch a game because there's no opposing stands to root against.  Just a big empty field ideal for little kids to throw nerf balls and play tag.
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« Reply #13 on: November 09, 2017, 03:29:14 pm »

a compliment yes, but LFN likely didnt realize it was family weekend (always a good crowd for us - for obvious reasons).      

where were all the fans for EWU and Yale??    
has a brief  poll/study been done to ask students, families, alumni   their preference kick off time      1pm, 4pm, 7pm ? then determine would likely yield biggest  crowd
Also poll what liked  best/ least about your gameday experience - constructive feedback.
and add a blank comment field-----suggestions ?   get a few good ideas or outside the box thinking
Why don't we have a marching band ?   increase game day atmosphere excitement (plus friends /family members go to support the kids in the band).
Each home game is a theme?  homecoming, family weekend,  white out,  maroon madness, costume game (nearest halloween
Why are the end zones   -  not  emblazoned with logo  Fordham /  Rams or schools colors?  (HS fields that also host soccer do this)  they use yellow perforated lines) to distinguish..
Why not put small stands on opposing side of field (yes I know baseball) and if cant sell out why go through cost/trouble.  because this is college football and its weird to have only one sided field  (not to mention acoustics suck)
Our bleachers  have no shade anywhere for very hot days or those folks getting up in years..
A merchandise tent should be in LOT A  pregame during game days..   yes when enter coffey field s one  there is one but by that time very crowded and folks trying to get to seat for kickoff..
2-3 boardwalk type games     dunk tank,    throw football threw a tire etc..  
have the marching band --escort  team from stadium down through Matryrs then  Metro North  station  go outside on Fordham Road enter   campus again  back up by parking garage (Lombardi hall)?      wake up the campus and neighborhood.    Grin Afro
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« Reply #14 on: November 09, 2017, 08:14:21 pm »

Fans are showing up, I recall some games in the 1990s where less than 100 showed up. People are wearing Maroon. We can build off this.

Winning helps too.

We should do a team Mass before the game. Not mandatory, but I think a lot will show up. Invite the Alumni.

Fr. Mc Shane should do a friendly wager with opposing teams, a box of Cannolis or a donation to a charity.

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« Reply #15 on: November 12, 2017, 07:50:12 pm »

They have been playing the same music for at least 3 years on the PA. BORING like a drill!
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« Reply #16 on: November 12, 2017, 08:04:28 pm »

They have been playing the same music for at least 3 years on the PA. BORING like a drill!

PA?  You mean the World War II era "Air Raid" equipment?  People that think that there is any imagination or commitment to "action" and "change" are part of the Yes Man, Drone Followers.
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« Reply #17 on: November 12, 2017, 10:51:05 pm »

While Father McShane would never allow this, I'd love to have tailgating on Eddie's.  Bring your own grills and tents and have a tailgate setup that you'd see at the Power 5 conferences.  That would definitely encourage more people to come IMO.
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« Reply #18 on: November 13, 2017, 07:58:09 am »

While Father McShane would never allow this, I'd love to have tailgating on Eddie's.  Bring your own grills and tents and have a tailgate setup that you'd see at the Power 5 conferences.  That would definitely encourage more people to come IMO.

Piles of coals the next day? that would kill the lawn.
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« Reply #19 on: November 13, 2017, 08:10:19 am »

While Father McShane would never allow this, I'd love to have tailgating on Eddie's.  Bring your own grills and tents and have a tailgate setup that you'd see at the Power 5 conferences.  That would definitely encourage more people to come IMO.

There's tailgating about 250 yards away. I don't get the fixation with tailgating on EP.  Which Power 5 teams allow tailgating on the center of campus?  I've been to games all over the country and don't think I've ever seen it. 
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« Reply #20 on: November 13, 2017, 08:21:06 am »

I still can't believe the whole Eddie's tailgating thing wasn't a joke. 
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« Reply #21 on: November 13, 2017, 09:10:08 am »

I still can't believe the whole Eddie's tailgating thing wasn't a joke. 

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« Reply #22 on: November 13, 2017, 12:54:00 pm »

There's tailgating about 250 yards away. I don't get the fixation with tailgating on EP.  Which Power 5 teams allow tailgating on the center of campus?  I've been to games all over the country and don't think I've ever seen it. 

Coach, it happens everywhere.  Do you want examples?  Nebraska, Oklahoma, Texas, Notre Dame, Florida, Alabama, Auburn....just to name a few.  Even West Point does it on Trophy Point, their most sacred ground.
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« Reply #23 on: November 13, 2017, 03:10:05 pm »

Coach, it happens everywhere.  Do you want examples?  Nebraska, Oklahoma, Texas, Notre Dame, Florida, Alabama, Auburn....just to name a few.  Even West Point does it on Trophy Point, their most sacred ground.

So what? Even if what you write is true (and you are known to be very loose with the truth, Ram-Louse), those are all BCS schools with large campuses. We are not that. We are an FCS school with a fairly small campus of only 85 acres and only two large lawn areas. I believe that the university should restore tailgating on lot A during homecoming weekend, but tailgating on Edwards Parade? That's a nonstarter, in my opinion. The university can, and should, make changes in the way tents are set up on Edwards to minimize lines for food and drinks during homecoming, and several posters have made sensible suggestions as to how that might be accomplished. I would like to see those changes implemented next year.
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« Reply #24 on: November 13, 2017, 03:15:15 pm »

So what? Even if what you write is true (and you are known to be very loose with the truth, Ram-Louse), those are all BCS schools with large campuses. We are not that. We are an FCS school with a fairly small campus of only 85 acres and only two large lawn areas. I believe that the university should restore tailgating on lot A during homecoming weekend, but tailgating on Edwards Parade? That's a nonstarter, in my opinion. The university can, and should, make changes in the way tents are set up on Edwards to minimize lines for food and drinks during homecoming, and several posters have made sensible suggestions as to how that might be accomplished. I would like to see those changes implemented next year.

Spot on.  Arguing to Fordham administrators that they should do something because BCS schools do it is an example of a non-winning strategy, to put it diplomatically.
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« Reply #25 on: November 13, 2017, 03:17:12 pm »

Spot on.  Arguing to Fordham administrators that we should do something because BCS schools do it is an example of a non-winning strategy, to put it diplomatically.

The revenue being generated would solve a lot of problems.  The fact that the "fun police" make you stop tailgating during the game is comical.
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« Reply #26 on: November 13, 2017, 03:25:25 pm »

The revenue being generated would solve a lot of problems.  The fact that the "fun police" make you stop tailgating during the game is comical.

Regarding EP, you are still not thinking about this from an administrator's viewpoint.

Not comical at all, I think it's a smart idea for a lot of reasons.  It's a reasonable accommodation all around.
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« Reply #27 on: November 13, 2017, 09:20:04 pm »

While Father McShane would never allow this, I'd love to have tailgating on Eddie's.  Bring your own grills and tents and have a tailgate setup that you'd see at the Power 5 conferences.  That would definitely encourage more people to come IMO.

I love how even though I preface that Father McShane would never allow this, so you know, me acknowledging that this would never happen, I still get jumped on making a suggestion. Iím surprised why people would rather tailgate on a parking lot than somewhere on campus. And yes Iím being dead serious.
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« Reply #28 on: November 13, 2017, 09:42:13 pm »

I love how even though I preface that Father McShane would never allow this, so you know, me acknowledging that this would never happen, I still get jumped on making a suggestion. Iím surprised why people would rather tailgate on a parking lot than somewhere on campus. And yes Iím being dead serious.

You have to remember that we have almost 50 years of negative "Institutional" drag going against this idea...."because it could never happen", "Eddie's is sacred ground"  "a Military tactician named Edwards used the area before World War I", "We aren't a Power 5 Conference"......

Remember, we had Frank and Co. running the show...."All is Well".....Julio can drive the temporary bleachers around for the "big games"

All of this is just small minded thinking.  SAD.

All of this boring, 19th Century thinking is because no one is allowed to imagine outside the the traditional Jesuit channels that they grew up with.  It just makes no sense.

Eddie's would be the perfect spot.  The idiotic Tent that goes up during Homecoming is a total joke.

People, start thinking outside the box. 
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« Reply #29 on: November 14, 2017, 06:01:07 pm »

You have to remember that we have almost 50 years of negative "Institutional" drag going against this idea...."because it could never happen", "Eddie's is sacred ground"  "a Military tactician named Edwards used the area before World War I", "We aren't a Power 5 Conference"......

Remember, we had Frank and Co. running the show...."All is Well".....Julio can drive the temporary bleachers around for the "big games"

All of this is just small minded thinking.  SAD.

All of this boring, 19th Century thinking is because no one is allowed to imagine outside the the traditional Jesuit channels that they grew up with.  It just makes no sense.

Eddie's would be the perfect spot.  The idiotic Tent that goes up during Homecoming is a total joke.

People, start thinking outside the box. 

Young paduan learner, you have no hope of ever making Jedi this way.  I fear that The Force may not be that strong in you.

In order to negotiate successfully with the Administration you must first understand the reasons behind their position.  I know that this requires a level of organizational sophistication that you have so far shown no interest in or demonstrated ability, but try hard as it is in your interest to do so.  What you've done so far (repeating your position over and over, and belittling everything else, constantly demonstrating your inability to think things through from your negotiating opponents' perspective) hasn't worked for you in all the many years you've been apparently pushing your idea.

Try again.
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