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« Reply #60 on: December 06, 2017, 08:21:59 pm »

Just like all of us came up with Jeff Neubauer two years ago? Dave Roach has taken ownership here; he has decided to work with Parker Search.

I'm sorry , has jeff nuebauer won anything? So because you never heard of him before Fordham that's a good hire?
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« Reply #61 on: December 06, 2017, 11:03:03 pm »

There is no doubt that hiring a 1-A assistant could come with the benefit of some transfers ala Joe M with Nebrich/Tebucky, etc.

If we don't go in the that direction, I think we should look at Pete Rossamando. His career trajectory is very impressive. Assistant at Albany. Then to New Haven where he got them to #3 in D-2 and National Coach of the year. Then at Central he got them to 8-4 in year 4 (almost 9-3 as they had us on the ropes). He also went ot UNH in the first round and lost 14-0 (Much better than Joe did vs. UNH in the playoffs) He also did that with his back-up QB as suspended the starter the week before the game. Takes some guts to do that. Also a Staten Island kid although that matters less.

http://www.ccsubluedevils.com/sports/fball/coaches/Rossomando?view=bio



Also of note. He had 3 D-1 transfers on his roster at CCSU. 2 brothers from WVU (leading rusher and DB) and a Temple transfer.

Not saying he is the guy but any means, but he does have a solid resume that is hard to ignore.
Based on credentials alone, I would view him as a candidate.

I am sure Parker will come up with some candidates.

Not saying it is a bad idea, but it is fair to say the ADs get off easy when a search firm is hired.  I always felt that hiring coaches and admin is at or near the top of n AD's top responsibilities.
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« Reply #62 on: December 06, 2017, 11:05:10 pm »

Not saying it is a bad idea, but it is fair to say the ADs get off easy when a search firm is hired.  I always felt that hiring coaches and admin is at or near the top of n AD's top responsibilities.

I agree, but at the same time there is too much money on the line. No doubt it is a bit of CYA, but as you said, not a bad idea.
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« Reply #63 on: December 06, 2017, 11:22:41 pm »

I'm sorry , has jeff nuebauer won anything? So because you never heard of him before Fordham that's a good hire?

Oh, I’m sorry. I forgot that you are one of those posters who believed that Tom Pecora was the second coming of Digger Phelps, and has never gotten over his firing.
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« Reply #64 on: December 07, 2017, 01:21:16 pm »

Some intersting news

There are not many open HC positions at the FCS level, so we shoudl not have a ton of competition.  Of those available, none are that attractive.
see list below:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_current_NCAA_Division_I_FCS_football_coaches

I was curious as to how much a FCS coach makes, there were a few lists (see one below which shows the avg to be about $240K.
I know our cost of living is higher than most other schools, but I am curious to know how much AB made.  Anyone know for sure?

Overall, I wish AB the best but honestly I am glad he is gone.  He was not qualified for the position and I think the results speak for themselves.
He was not mature enough to handle the situation, and that is fine and happy to be moving on.  I just hope we can find a good coach to lead the program.  Even better would be a BOT and President who gave a sh!t about sports.

FCS SALARIES
Turner Gill received a base salary of $658,492 and a total compensation package of $750,116 for the Liberty fiscal year ending June 30, 2015, according to tax documents retrieved online. Liberty’s 5th year head coach had the highest compensation package of any other FCS coach we researched. The full list of 24 other head coaches’ salaries we reviewed is listed below:.
NOTE: LIBERTY IS GOING FBS 2018


Richmond’s Danny Rocco received a total package worth $437,672. *
Northern Iowa’s Mark Farley had a base salary of $350,000. %
Villanova’s Andy Talley received a base salary of $304,642 with a total package of $341,096. *
James Madison’s Mike  Houston had a starting salary of $300,000 in his first year this season. #
Illinois State’s Brock Spack had a base salary of $300,000. %
North Carolina A&T’s Rod Broadway had a base salary of $285,000. #
In Samford’s Pat Sullivan’s final season before Chris Hatcher took over, he had a base salary of $274,665 and a total package worth $438,196. *
North Dakota State’s Chris Klieman had a base salary of $261,177 with a total package worth 300,000. #%
Sam Houston State’s KC Keeler had a base salary of $250,000. %
Youngstown State’s Bo Pelini had a base salary of 213,894 in his first year this season. #
Cal Poly’s Tim Walsh had a base salary of $205,200. #
New Hampshire’s Sean McDonnell had a base salary of $200,000. #
Grambling State’s Broderick Fobbs had a base salary of $195,000. #
South Dakota State’s John Stiegelmeier had a base salary of $190,000. %
Jacksonville State’s John Grass received a base salary of $181,000 with a total package of $251,000. ^
Eastern Washington’s Beau Baldwin received a package worth $212,717. !
Central Arkansas’ Steve Campbell had a base salary of $185,000. #
Coastal Carolina’s Joe Moglia had a base salary of $175,000. #
Montana’s Bob Stitt had a base salary of $175,000 in 2015. %#
The Citadel’s Brent Thompson received a base salary of $175,000 in 2016. $
Samford’s Chris Hatcher had a base salary of $152,650 in his final season at Murray State in 2014. *#
Chattanooga’s Russ Huesman had a base salary of $150,000. #
North Dakota’s Kyle Schweigert had a base salary of $150,000. #
Charleston Southern’s Jamey Chadwell received a base salary of $120,542 and total package worth $139,670. *

Obviously, this is not an exhaustive list of all 125 FCS programs, but we concentrated our research on teams’ currently ranked in the FCS Top 25 polls and a few other top programs. All salaries are listed for the 2014-15 academic year, unless otherwise noted.

The average compensation package for the above listed FCS head coaches is $260,888.44. If you remove Gill’s numbers, the average drops to $240,503.96. Gill’s compensation would put him 87th amongst all Division I coaches, including the FBS, according to a recent USA Today study.


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« Reply #65 on: December 07, 2017, 01:26:27 pm »

I'm sorry , has jeff nuebauer won anything?

Seriously?  If you look back at our schedules for the time he's been here I'm sure you'll see some games with a "W".  That is an acronym for "Win".  I know this is complicated, but you'll figure it out.

So because you never heard of him before Fordham that's a good hire?

The idea is that we ended up getting a coach who would otherwise not have been on our radar because he might not have been known to our AD.  By utilizing a search firm with a huge database, you can access a much larger pool of potential candidates than just those that an AD might have through personal contacts alone.
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« Reply #66 on: December 07, 2017, 01:50:21 pm »

the argument over using a search firm or not at this level seems ludicrous.

it's another tool in the toolbox, and for school who's recipe for success is very much reliant on coaching, we need it.

'nuff said.
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« Reply #67 on: December 07, 2017, 02:11:05 pm »

Does Moglia want a new challenge?
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« Reply #68 on: December 07, 2017, 02:16:24 pm »

Does Moglia want a new challenge?

He has one leading an FBS team now, doesn't he? Coastal is no longer or soon no longer will be FCS, from what I have gathered.
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« Reply #69 on: December 07, 2017, 02:17:22 pm »

thanks Chaka..

FCS schools looking for new HC

Hampton Big South
Delaware State MEAC
Florida A&M MEAC
Robert Morris NEC
Tennessee Tech OVC
Fordham Patriot
Holy Cross Patriot

Davidson Pioneer
Incarnate Word Southland
Alabama A&M SWAC
Alabama State SWAC
Arkansas–Pine Bluff SWAC
 
for a coach that likes the  Northeast these are the only FCS options at the moment.
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« Reply #70 on: December 07, 2017, 02:42:07 pm »

He has one leading an FBS team now, doesn't he? Coastal is no longer or soon no longer will be FCS, from what I have gathered.

This was Coastal's first year in FCS as a non-independent.  They went 3-9, although they had several close losses.  However, Moglia did not coach.  He spent the past year on medical leave due to a lung condition.  Reports are he expect to return to coaching after Christmas, and I imagine he's going to want to get a crack at coaching at the FCS level.  I don't see him as a realistic candidate for us.  Cory Bailey would be a good hire for us, but he loves it down there, and I'm not sure he'd make the move. 

I think Dave Patenaude (OC at Temple and former Fordham assistant) and Sean McGowan (DC at Yale and former Fordham player) are both going to be in the mix.
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« Reply #71 on: December 07, 2017, 03:00:33 pm »

This was Coastal's first year in FCS as a non-independent.  They went 3-9, although they had several close losses.  However, Moglia did not coach.  He spent the past year on medical leave due to a lung condition.  Reports are he expect to return to coaching after Christmas, and I imagine he's going to want to get a crack at coaching at the FCS level.  I don't see him as a realistic candidate for us.  Cory Bailey would be a good hire for us, but he loves it down there, and I'm not sure he'd make the move. 

I think Dave Patenaude (OC at Temple and former Fordham assistant) and Sean McGowan (DC at Yale and former Fordham player) are both going to be in the mix.

You mean FBS, correct?
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« Reply #72 on: December 07, 2017, 03:42:56 pm »

Does Moglia want a new challenge?

Taking the Coastal program from the FBS level is a pretty much the challenge of a career.  Fordham had its chance to hire him and passed.  Moglia and his million$ went to Myrle Beach.
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« Reply #73 on: December 07, 2017, 05:07:39 pm »

This was Coastal's first year in FCS as a non-independent.  They went 3-9, although they had several close losses.  However, Moglia did not coach.  He spent the past year on medical leave due to a lung condition.  Reports are he expect to return to coaching after Christmas, and I imagine he's going to want to get a crack at coaching at the FCS level.  I don't see him as a realistic candidate for us.  Cory Bailey would be a good hire for us, but he loves it down there, and I'm not sure he'd make the move. 

I think Dave Patenaude (OC at Temple and former Fordham assistant) and Sean McGowan (DC at Yale and former Fordham player) are both going to be in the mix.

Please lord no Dave Patenaude.. this guy is a retread of all retreads.. bounced around more than a basketball and has the personality of a wet blanket..
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« Reply #74 on: December 07, 2017, 05:10:21 pm »

Oh, I’m sorry. I forgot that you are one of those posters who believed that Tom Pecora was the second coming of Digger Phelps, and has never gotten over his firing.

Really based on what? I could care less about Pechora and never stated anything even remotely close to that.. seriously you're pulling the Pechora card here? Please stop making up garbage. I simply said what had neubauer won here and why because a search firm was used does it make it a good hire? Please be an adult
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« Reply #75 on: December 07, 2017, 05:21:12 pm »

Seriously?  If you look back at our schedules for the time he's been here I'm sure you'll see some games with a "W".  That is an acronym for "Win".  I know this is complicated, but you'll figure it out.

The idea is that we ended up getting a coach who would otherwise not have been on our radar because he might not have been known to our AD.  By utilizing a search firm with a huge database, you can access a much larger pool of potential candidates than just those that an AD might have through personal contacts alone.

Ok you realize the term "win" means something of significance not a sub 500 record.. but hey we used a search form to hire him so you know he's a good coach
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« Reply #76 on: December 07, 2017, 07:18:31 pm »

I would not be surprised to hear that former Fordham QB Mark Carney has applied.  He has coached at a number of schools, including Virginia State where he has served as OC the last three years.  VSU improved each year and were 10-1 this past year with some high-scoring games.  Yes it would be a step up from D2, but he does know Fordham and the PL.  Can he be Moorhead 2.0? 

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« Reply #77 on: December 07, 2017, 07:46:10 pm »

I would not be surprised to hear that former Fordham QB Mark Carney has applied.  He has coached at a number of schools, including Virginia State where he has served as OC the last three years.  VSU improved each year and were 10-1 this past year with some high-scoring games.  Yes it would be a step up from D2, but he does know Fordham and the PL.  Can he be Moorhead 2.0? 

http://govsutrojans.com/coaches.aspx?rc=354&path=football

No he's not ,.. not qualified and not morehead 2.0 but that was nice of mrs carney to post this ..
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« Reply #78 on: December 07, 2017, 10:15:07 pm »

thanks Chaka..

FCS schools looking for new HC

Hampton Big South
Delaware State MEAC
Florida A&M MEAC
Robert Morris NEC
Tennessee Tech OVC
Fordham Patriot
Holy Cross Patriot

Davidson Pioneer
Incarnate Word Southland
Alabama A&M SWAC
Alabama State SWAC
Arkansas–Pine Bluff SWAC
 
for a coach that likes the  Northeast these are the only FCS options at the moment.

The openings you identified are mostly in the SWAC and MEAC conferences which are mainly southern schools. Hampton is in VA. Is it possible that we could find a current FCS HC who wants to take a step up (from the NEC, Pioneer) or a FBS coordinator who wants to run their own program. Hope we find someone good really soon.
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« Reply #79 on: December 07, 2017, 10:57:50 pm »

Ok you realize the term "win" means something of significance not a sub 500 record.. but hey we used a search form to hire him so you know he's a good coach

You said "anything", which is a very broadly encompassing term.  How am I supposed to know that "anything" does not actually mean "anything" to you?

Does going 17-14 in his first year count as something of significance, especially in that he was able to win games with the same players that the previous coach couldn't win with?

I think he is a good coach in that he can actually coach during the game, unlike our previous coach who apparently didn't do that kind of thing.  Not saying he's an incredible coach.

I'm glad we used a search firm to find JN.  It's just a tool to be used and the way searches are done nowadays by those who don't want to limit themselves to just the friends and personal network of the AD.  I feel it increases the chances of success.  However, if it turns out JN doesn't work out we at least won't have the same kind of blamestorming for failing to do a professional search, like what we had with the Hill and Pecora fiascos.






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« Reply #80 on: December 07, 2017, 11:27:50 pm »

DamnRam, why do we waste our time with this illiterate fool? He can't even spell the names of the coaches he posts about correctly. Who is Nuebauer? Who is Pechora? Who is Morehead? I never heard of these people. So maybe it is true that Nuebauer never won anything, but Jeff Neubauer posted a 17-14 record in his first year. In any mathematical process that I'm familiar with, that is a winning record. Compare that to the coach he replaced.
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« Reply #81 on: December 08, 2017, 07:51:53 am »

I would not be surprised to hear that former Fordham QB Mark Carney has applied.  He has coached at a number of schools, including Virginia State where he has served as OC the last three years.  VSU improved each year and were 10-1 this past year with some high-scoring games.  Yes it would be a step up from D2, but he does know Fordham and the PL.  Can he be Moorhead 2.0? 

http://govsutrojans.com/coaches.aspx?rc=354&path=football

Good guy and a good coach.  I wouldn't exclude him because he's coming from Division II.   I do think I'd like someone more mature.  I think AB is leaving behind some attitude problems that need to be resolved.  I'd like to see some HC experience.   I'm not sure playing experience in the PL from that far back is worth much nor being is being a Fordham graduate.  A student experience doesn't bring much to the table when you return as a head coach.  Two very different views of the institution. 
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« Reply #82 on: December 08, 2017, 08:59:37 am »

Why wouldnt we be interested in their head coach, Reggie Barlow?
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« Reply #83 on: December 08, 2017, 09:53:39 am »

DamnRam, why do we waste our time with this illiterate fool? He can't even spell the names of the coaches he posts about correctly. Who is Nuebauer? Who is Pechora? Who is Morehead? I never heard of these people. So maybe it is true that Nuebauer never won anything, but Jeff Neubauer posted a 17-14 record in his first year. In any mathematical process that I'm familiar with, that is a winning record. Compare that to the coach he replaced.

you part of the problem. Your standards are similar to our athletic departments.. you're boasting  about an 8th place finish in the A-10 year one. And oh by the way once someone else starts correcting spelling and grammar on a fan message board , I know they have lost the argument. Nothing of value to add , just point out spelling  mistakes. That's
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« Reply #84 on: December 08, 2017, 09:59:17 am »

you part of the problem. Your standards are similar to our athletic departments.. you're boasting  about an 8th place finish in the A-10 year one. And oh by the way once someone else starts correcting spelling and grammar on a fan message board , I know they have lost the argument. Nothing of value to add , just point out spelling  mistakes. That's

Agree on the spelling/grammar angle, even more so these days with people using their phone to post.

As for standards, I agree in part, but also think we found a good coach in Neubauer. The key is to also give these guys the proper resources to truly succeed.
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« Reply #85 on: December 08, 2017, 12:58:51 pm »

Agree on the spelling/grammar angle, even more so these days with people using their phone to post.

As for standards, I agree in part, but also think we found a good coach in Neubauer. The key is to also give these guys the proper resources to truly succeed.

Ok so neubauer with a disasterous year 2 and below 500 career record in year 3 in a sport where 1-2 players can turn your program around is considered a great hire by our search firm and a good coach by many on this board. AB with a winning record after 2 years is a terrible coach and a bad hire by many on this board. I just don't understand the logic
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« Reply #86 on: December 08, 2017, 01:08:37 pm »

Ok so neubauer with a disasterous year 2 and below 500 career record in year 3 in a sport where 1-2 players can turn your program around is considered a great hire by our search firm and a good coach by many on this board. AB with a winning record after 2 years is a terrible coach and a bad hire by many on this board. I just don't understand the logic

AB was a terrible hire made by people who know nothing about athletics or coaching.  Roach gets a pass on this one.  He did as he was told.

Neubauer seems ok. He's keeping his head above water and with this program that may be as good as it gets.  His recruiting needs to get much better.  It doesn't matter who the coach is.  You can't win without talent. We still don't have a lot.
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« Reply #87 on: December 08, 2017, 01:12:41 pm »

Ok so neubauer with a disasterous year 2 and below 500 career record in year 3 in a sport where 1-2 players can turn your program around is considered a great hire by our search firm and a good coach by many on this board. AB with a winning record after 2 years is a terrible coach and a bad hire by many on this board. I just don't understand the logic

Parker has some good results some bad results some middle of the road. Its just an added tool and it doesnt mean they are totally outsourced to make the decision for us. They can help expedite things.
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« Reply #88 on: December 08, 2017, 01:38:28 pm »

Ok so neubauer with a disasterous year 2 and below 500 career record in year 3 in a sport where 1-2 players can turn your program around is considered a great hire by our search firm and a good coach by many on this board. AB with a winning record after 2 years is a terrible coach and a bad hire by many on this board. I just don't understand the logic
What can Fordham do to make you happy? If it's nothing, then why waste your time complaining?
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« Reply #89 on: December 08, 2017, 04:32:21 pm »

AB was a terrible hire made by people who know nothing about athletics or coaching.  Roach gets a pass on this one.  He did as he was told.



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