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« Reply #30 on: January 17, 2011, 12:22:09 pm »

As I pointed out elsewhere, in our current 5-game slide, Gaston's averaged just 9.6 FG attempts per game. Some of those undoubtedly come off rebounds and putbacks. Clearly, we aren't getting him the ball enough. Butler's averaged 15 FG attempts per game in that span, and has shot horribly. Plus, as we integrate Samuell into the rotation, this means more outside shots getting put up. We're not a good outside shooting team. If we're going to make little use of our best weapon, and let the guards try to win it from the outside, we're beating ourselves.
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« Reply #31 on: January 17, 2011, 12:23:20 pm »

Darryl Brown has some great career numbers,  was he an inside, power forward?
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« Reply #32 on: January 17, 2011, 12:25:28 pm »

We're not a good outside shooting team. If we're going to make little use of our best weapon, and let the guards try to win it from the outside, we're beating ourselves.

I agree with you John but again, part of the reason they dont get the ball inside to Gaston or even to Bristol is that they cant. The opposing guards shluff off our guards and clog the passing lanes to Gaston. Coupling that with a double team the guy is blanketed. That makes it impossible to feed it down low. They are often ( not always ) daring our guards to shoot.
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« Reply #33 on: January 17, 2011, 12:34:27 pm »

Butler's already taken more shots in his Fordham career than the sainted Bryant Dunston, who hit 628 of 1183 shots from the floor (53.1%) over four very strong years, which suggests that with a Chris Gaston available inside, we really ought to be letting Chris take more shots.
Excellent post, John.

You actually took the time and effort to research the numbers, rather than merely spewing forth yet another opinion, and, you not only gave us da facts, but you came to a conclusion that provides information to promote an effective strategy for our guys on da hardwood.

A detailed and perceptive post.

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« Reply #34 on: January 17, 2011, 12:58:09 pm »

Darryl Brown has some great career numbers,  was he an inside, power forward?

He was recruited as a 6-7 power forward, but when 6-9 Peter Crotty followed Digger to Notre Dame, Darryl spent his entire varisty career playing with his back to the basket, at the center position. Usually, he was flanked by forwards standing 6-5 or 6-4. He was a ferocious defender and rebounder, usually outplaying guys bigger than himself. One of his golden moments came in the Holiday Festival finals win against USC, when he clobbered a Top 5 frontcourt that went 6-10, 6-10, and 6-9 -- all with bulk.

He was the Celtics' first draft pick his senior year, but they were a championship club, and didn't have time to convert Darryl back to the forward position. He reminded me a lot of the young Paul Silas.
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« Reply #35 on: January 17, 2011, 01:11:16 pm »

I could live with poor shooting by BB if the offense did not rely upon him so heavily.  Based upon player FGA to team FGA, BB has accounted for an increased percentage of the team's total shots each year: frosh (15.7%), soph (17.8%), jr (25.2%) and sr (23.1%).  When you average 1 out of every 4 FG's your team attempts, you better be making a high percentage of these.  Currently, BB is eighth on the tem in FG percentage.  Even if you throw out RH (2-5), BB (.354) is still behind AE (.486), BF (.432), LS (.412) and RM (.417) in terms of shooting accuracy.  The team shoots .419 with him, and .438 without him.

Three point FG averages are the same.  BB averages .283 in shooting treys.  He trails AE (.404), BF (.391) and RM (.300).  LS is 1-6 in treys, but he has seen limited action and his percentage (.167) could change quickly.  AE and BF (36) have made 10 more treys than BB (26) in about the same amount of attempts.  It would be nice to have those extra 30 points.    
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« Reply #36 on: January 17, 2011, 07:35:00 pm »

OK, I wondered that, did the digging, and am a bit surprised to say the answer is no.

Entering this week's game against St. Louis, Butler for his career has shot 420-1193 from the floor, an average of 35.5%. From the 3-point line, he's shot 187-594, or 31.5%.

For folks who wax nostalgic that BB's best years were playing beside Dunston and Stout, you're statistically correct. His first two seasons he shot 193-520 overall (37.1%) and 105-277 (37.9%) from beyond the arc.  Since those two left, he's shot 33.7% from the field, 25.8% from 3-point land. The drop-off is likely as much the result of the graduation of Kevin Anderson, a true point guard who was less likely to dish to BB for an out-of-position shot (and who had two better options in Stout and Bryant).

Now, BB's career stats to date include 3-1/2 seasons, plus 7 games in his redshirt year, in which he hoisted up 71 shots.

But for all the torment he's put the iron through, he's not the leading shot-taker in Fordham history. I don't know who is, but by comparison, Marcus Stout took 1409 shots in 4 years, hitting 569 of those (40.3%). If he continues flinging shots at his current rate, BB might approach Stout's shooting numbers, but isn't likely to eclipse him by much. [And remember, some of our high scorers played before the 3-point shot, and might have put up a lot more attempts from the field].  If BB were to match Stout's shot total, he'd have to shoot 69% from the floor the rest of the year to match his FG%.

BB is neither a consciousless shooter, nor an unconscious one. The one thing we can say is that he's not a really good one. In fairness, we must also concede that he's played the last couple of years without a PG, often doing ball-handling duties himself

Now BB's already taken more shots in his Fordham career than the sainted Bryant Dunston, who hit 628 of 1183 shots from the floor (53.1%) over 4 very strong years. Which suggests that, with a Chris Gaston available inside, we really ought to be letting Chris take more shots.

John, this is your best post ever here.  Thanks for digging up those stats - very enlightening.
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« Reply #37 on: January 19, 2011, 10:25:51 pm »

1. Ed Conlin ................... 1951-55 ...................................... 1,886
2. Bryant Dunston ........ 2004-08 ...................................... 1,832
3. Bevon Robin ............. 1997-2001 ................................... 1,793
4. Joe Paterno ................ 1985-89 ...................................... 1,776
5. Jim Cunningham ........ 1955-58 ...................................... 1,744
6. Marcus Stout ............ 2004-08 ...................................... 1,709
7. Ken Charles ............... 1970-73 ...................................... 1,697
8. Jean Prioleau ............. 1988-92 ...................................... 1,442
9. Fred Herzog ............... 1987-92 ...................................... 1,435
10. Charlie Yelverton ....... 1968-71 ...................................... 1,372
11. Brenton Butler……….2006-2011………………...……….. 1,359
12. Bob Melvin ............... 1960-63 ...................................... 1,323
12. Bill Langheld ............. 1965-68 ...................................... 1,323
14. Dave Maxwell ............ 1980-83 ...................................... 1,278
15. Tony McIntosh ......... 1981-85 ...................................... 1,238
16. Darryl Brown ............. 1972-75 ...................................... 1,233
17. Michael Haynes ........ 2000-04 ...................................... 1,228
18. Jason Harris .............. 1997-2001 ................................... 1,218
19. Steve Samuels ........... 1980-85 ...................................... 1,182
20. Jermaine Anderson ... 2002-06 ...................................... 1,178
21. Jim Manhardt ............ 1961-64 ...................................... 1,147
22. John Stevens ............. 1962-65 ...................................... 1,128
23. John Brady ................ 1956-59 ...................................... 1,119
24. Damon Lopez ............ 1988-91 ...................................... 1,101
25. Gerry Smith ................ 1946-49 ...................................... 1,079
26. Dan Lyons ................ 1951-55 ...................................... 1,077
27. Dan O’Sullivan .......... 1986-90 ...................................... 1,073
28. Dud Tongal ............... 1978-82 ...................................... 1,062
29. Sanford Jenkins ......... 1988-92 ...................................... 1,052
30. Fred Christ ................ 1949-52 ...................................... 1,037
31. David Buckner .......... 1989-93 ...................................... 1,027
32. Bill Mainor ................ 1968-71 ...................................... 1,024
33. Bill Carlson ................ 1949-52 ...................................... 1,019
XX. Chris Gaston……….....2009-2013……………….............……….746
XX. Alberto Estwick.......2008-2012..................................584
XX. Branden Frazier.......2010-2014..................................186
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« Reply #38 on: January 20, 2011, 10:15:36 am »

Butler about to pass Charlie Y.

I can not think of a better example of the absurdity of these lists.
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« Reply #39 on: January 20, 2011, 10:18:30 am »

The list confirms Butler as an all-time scorer but it doesn't confirm him as an all-time great player.
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« Reply #40 on: January 20, 2011, 10:30:44 am »

Butler about to pass Charlie Y.

I can not think of a better example of the absurdity of these lists.

The only thing absurd is people making more out of them than what they are.  It's a list of 1,000 point scorers.
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« Reply #41 on: January 20, 2011, 10:35:32 am »

I don't understand why everyone is up in arms about Butler climbing the list.  Nobody has claimed BB to be a better player than CY.  Instead, we need to acknowledge how these players competed in drastically different eras (3pt shot/lack thereof, freshman eligibility, etc.)  CY had a greater impact on a successful team, I think that goes without saying at this point.

One item of food for thought, and not just for Butler, but the entire NCAA.  If a player participates in games before redshirting, shouldn't those numbers be stricken from his record?  Don't see why a player should get credit for those games after the NCAA basically gives them a mulligan on the season.

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« Reply #42 on: January 20, 2011, 10:44:10 am »

Ah, I think its human nature. We keep losing, this guy's shooting percentage continues to plummet into the abyss and after these woeful nights, a scrolling marquee highlighting his points is going to usually going to get a reaction from some.  I mean, there is an implication in these highlighted scrolling listings that it is some type of a monumental accomplishment. Coming off these 3-15 and worse nights, it might not be the best of timing.
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« Reply #43 on: January 22, 2011, 10:30:26 pm »

1. Ed Conlin ................... 1951-55 ...................................... 1,886
2. Bryant Dunston ........ 2004-08 ...................................... 1,832
3. Bevon Robin ............. 1997-2001 ................................... 1,793
4. Joe Paterno ................ 1985-89 ...................................... 1,776
5. Jim Cunningham ........ 1955-58 ...................................... 1,744
6. Marcus Stout ............ 2004-08 ...................................... 1,709
7. Ken Charles ............... 1970-73 ...................................... 1,697
8. Jean Prioleau ............. 1988-92 ...................................... 1,442
9. Fred Herzog ............... 1987-92 ...................................... 1,435
10. Charlie Yelverton ....... 1968-71 ...................................... 1,372
11. Brenton Butler……….2006-2011………………...……….. 1,363
12. Bob Melvin ............... 1960-63 ...................................... 1,323
12. Bill Langheld ............. 1965-68 ...................................... 1,323
14. Dave Maxwell ............ 1980-83 ...................................... 1,278
15. Tony McIntosh ......... 1981-85 ...................................... 1,238
16. Darryl Brown ............. 1972-75 ...................................... 1,233
17. Michael Haynes ........ 2000-04 ...................................... 1,228
18. Jason Harris .............. 1997-2001 ................................... 1,218
19. Steve Samuels ........... 1980-85 ...................................... 1,182
20. Jermaine Anderson ... 2002-06 ...................................... 1,178
21. Jim Manhardt ............ 1961-64 ...................................... 1,147
22. John Stevens ............. 1962-65 ...................................... 1,128
23. John Brady ................ 1956-59 ...................................... 1,119
24. Damon Lopez ............ 1988-91 ...................................... 1,101
25. Gerry Smith ................ 1946-49 ...................................... 1,079
26. Dan Lyons ................ 1951-55 ...................................... 1,077
27. Dan O’Sullivan .......... 1986-90 ...................................... 1,073
28. Dud Tongal ............... 1978-82 ...................................... 1,062
29. Sanford Jenkins ......... 1988-92 ...................................... 1,052
30. Fred Christ ................ 1949-52 ...................................... 1,037
31. David Buckner .......... 1989-93 ...................................... 1,027
32. Bill Mainor ................ 1968-71 ...................................... 1,024
33. Bill Carlson ................ 1949-52 ...................................... 1,019
XX. Chris Gaston……….....2009-2013……………….............……….762
XX. Alberto Estwick.......2008-2012..................................589
XX. Branden Frazier.......2010-2014..................................197
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« Reply #44 on: January 22, 2011, 10:35:37 pm »

Well people can thank Dayton's defense for ensuring that Butler won't become a better player than Charlie Y for at least one more game.  Wink
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« Reply #45 on: January 22, 2011, 10:48:16 pm »

He was recruited as a 6-7 power forward, but when 6-9 Peter Crotty followed Digger to Notre Dame. He reminded me a lot of the young Paul Silas.

John, as a good friend and classmate of Darryl's, let me make a couple of corrections to your post.

Darryl was not recruited as a power forward by Digger Phelps.  Coming into Fordham, Darryl was 6' 7" and weighed around 185 lbs.  He was a skilled wing forward that eventually grew into his frame and was able to compete at a very high level against some of the top big forwards in college basketball.  Paul Silas was a wide-body power forward that in no way resembled Darryl with the exception that they were both skilled rebounders who were exceptional at getting good position on the blocks.
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« Reply #46 on: January 26, 2011, 02:18:28 pm »

That guy Cunningham had some sick numbers.  Did he play in NBA?
           Drafted by Boston.... believe he was last man cut... beaten out by Sam Jones...
           I loved Cunningham's game.... he had one great drive to the hoop...
           Only player to shut him down while I was at Fordham was Lenny Wilkens of
           Providence.... (Fordham won that game in OT)
           BTW:  Always felt the Knicks should have drafted him... I still have not forgiven them for
           overlooking him....
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« Reply #47 on: January 26, 2011, 03:50:59 pm »

John, as a good friend and classmate of Darryl's, let me make a couple of corrections to your post.

Darryl was not recruited as a power forward by Digger Phelps.  Coming into Fordham, Darryl was 6' 7" and weighed around 185 lbs.  He was a skilled wing forward that eventually grew into his frame and was able to compete at a very high level against some of the top big forwards in college basketball.  Paul Silas was a wide-body power forward that in no way resembled Darryl with the exception that they were both skilled rebounders who were exceptional at getting good position on the blocks.

Darryl was in my class at Fordham as well (although I graduated a year earlier than he did). Maybe "power" forward was the wrong word, but I meant to convey that he was recruited as a forward, and played out of position his whole career at Fordham. I'll take your word for him entering at 185 lbs (still seemed big to me, but we probably all weighed less back then), but he'd bulked up some by the time he started playing varsity as a sophomore. And the way you analogized Darryl to Silas was exactly what I was talking about.

Another thing about D. The guy had presence. When he was on the court, he was in command, and had some of the best court vision I've ever seen in a "big" man.
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« Reply #48 on: January 26, 2011, 10:57:13 pm »

1. Ed Conlin ................... 1951-55 ...................................... 1,886
2. Bryant Dunston ........ 2004-08 ...................................... 1,832
3. Bevon Robin ............. 1997-2001 ................................... 1,793
4. Joe Paterno ................ 1985-89 ...................................... 1,776
5. Jim Cunningham ........ 1955-58 ...................................... 1,744
6. Marcus Stout ............ 2004-08 ...................................... 1,709
7. Ken Charles ............... 1970-73 ...................................... 1,697
8. Jean Prioleau ............. 1988-92 ...................................... 1,442
9. Fred Herzog ............... 1987-92 ...................................... 1,435
10. Brenton Butler……….2006-2011………………...……….. 1,38011. Charlie Yelverton ....... 1968-71 ...................................... 1,372
12. Bob Melvin ............... 1960-63 ...................................... 1,323
12. Bill Langheld ............. 1965-68 ...................................... 1,323
14. Dave Maxwell ............ 1980-83 ...................................... 1,278
15. Tony McIntosh ......... 1981-85 ...................................... 1,238
16. Darryl Brown ............. 1972-75 ...................................... 1,233
17. Michael Haynes ........ 2000-04 ...................................... 1,228
18. Jason Harris .............. 1997-2001 ................................... 1,218
19. Steve Samuels ........... 1980-85 ...................................... 1,182
20. Jermaine Anderson ... 2002-06 ...................................... 1,178
21. Jim Manhardt ............ 1961-64 ...................................... 1,147
22. John Stevens ............. 1962-65 ...................................... 1,128
23. John Brady ................ 1956-59 ...................................... 1,119
24. Damon Lopez ............ 1988-91 ...................................... 1,101
25. Gerry Smith ................ 1946-49 ...................................... 1,079
26. Dan Lyons ................ 1951-55 ...................................... 1,077
27. Dan O’Sullivan .......... 1986-90 ...................................... 1,073
28. Dud Tongal ............... 1978-82 ...................................... 1,062
29. Sanford Jenkins ......... 1988-92 ...................................... 1,052
30. Fred Christ ................ 1949-52 ...................................... 1,037
31. David Buckner .......... 1989-93 ...................................... 1,027
32. Bill Mainor ................ 1968-71 ...................................... 1,024
33. Bill Carlson ................ 1949-52 ...................................... 1,019
XX. Chris Gaston……….....2009-2013……………….............……….777
XX. Alberto Estwick.......2008-2012..................................589
XX. Branden Frazier.......2010-2014..................................216

Butler moves into the top 10 in points.  Estwick disppears.  I think losing Estwick as a 4th scoring option has had a lot to do with the slide.  To win another game we will need a solid scoring effort out of Estwick along with Gaston, Butler and Frazier.
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« Reply #49 on: January 29, 2011, 06:58:03 pm »

1. Ed Conlin ................... 1951-55 ...................................... 1,886
2. Bryant Dunston ........ 2004-08 ...................................... 1,832
3. Bevon Robin ............. 1997-2001 ................................... 1,793
4. Joe Paterno ................ 1985-89 ...................................... 1,776
5. Jim Cunningham ........ 1955-58 ...................................... 1,744
6. Marcus Stout ............ 2004-08 ...................................... 1,709
7. Ken Charles ............... 1970-73 ...................................... 1,697
8. Jean Prioleau ............. 1988-92 ...................................... 1,442
9. Fred Herzog ............... 1987-92 ...................................... 1,435
10. Brenton Butler……….2006-2011………………...……….. 1,395
11. Charlie Yelverton ....... 1968-71 ...................................... 1,372
12. Bob Melvin ............... 1960-63 ...................................... 1,323
12. Bill Langheld ............. 1965-68 ...................................... 1,323
14. Dave Maxwell ............ 1980-83 ...................................... 1,278
15. Tony McIntosh ......... 1981-85 ...................................... 1,238
16. Darryl Brown ............. 1972-75 ...................................... 1,233
17. Michael Haynes ........ 2000-04 ...................................... 1,228
18. Jason Harris .............. 1997-2001 ................................... 1,218
19. Steve Samuels ........... 1980-85 ...................................... 1,182
20. Jermaine Anderson ... 2002-06 ...................................... 1,178
21. Jim Manhardt ............ 1961-64 ...................................... 1,147
22. John Stevens ............. 1962-65 ...................................... 1,128
23. John Brady ................ 1956-59 ...................................... 1,119
24. Damon Lopez ............ 1988-91 ...................................... 1,101
25. Gerry Smith ................ 1946-49 ...................................... 1,079
26. Dan Lyons ................ 1951-55 ...................................... 1,077
27. Dan O’Sullivan .......... 1986-90 ...................................... 1,073
28. Dud Tongal ............... 1978-82 ...................................... 1,062
29. Sanford Jenkins ......... 1988-92 ...................................... 1,052
30. Fred Christ ................ 1949-52 ...................................... 1,037
31. David Buckner .......... 1989-93 ...................................... 1,027
32. Bill Mainor ................ 1968-71 ...................................... 1,024
33. Bill Carlson ................ 1949-52 ...................................... 1,019
XX. Chris Gaston……….....2009-2013……………….............……….788
XX. Alberto Estwick.......2008-2012..................................595
XX. Branden Frazier.......2010-2014..................................227


Butler should cruise into the #8 spot to end his career. 
Estwick looked like he was definitely on his way to 1,000 career points, but it is not a sure thing at this point.
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« Reply #50 on: February 02, 2011, 10:02:28 pm »

1. Ed Conlin ................... 1951-55 ...................................... 1,886
2. Bryant Dunston ........ 2004-08 ...................................... 1,832
3. Bevon Robin ............. 1997-2001 ................................... 1,793
4. Joe Paterno ................ 1985-89 ...................................... 1,776
5. Jim Cunningham ........ 1955-58 ...................................... 1,744
6. Marcus Stout ............ 2004-08 ...................................... 1,709
7. Ken Charles ............... 1970-73 ...................................... 1,697
8. Jean Prioleau ............. 1988-92 ...................................... 1,442
9. Fred Herzog ............... 1987-92 ...................................... 1,435
10. Brenton Butler……….2006-2011………………...……….. 1,400
11. Charlie Yelverton ....... 1968-71 ...................................... 1,372
12. Bob Melvin ............... 1960-63 ...................................... 1,323
12. Bill Langheld ............. 1965-68 ...................................... 1,323
14. Dave Maxwell ............ 1980-83 ...................................... 1,278
15. Tony McIntosh ......... 1981-85 ...................................... 1,238
16. Darryl Brown ............. 1972-75 ...................................... 1,233
17. Michael Haynes ........ 2000-04 ...................................... 1,228
18. Jason Harris .............. 1997-2001 ................................... 1,218
19. Steve Samuels ........... 1980-85 ...................................... 1,182
20. Jermaine Anderson ... 2002-06 ...................................... 1,178
21. Jim Manhardt ............ 1961-64 ...................................... 1,147
22. John Stevens ............. 1962-65 ...................................... 1,128
23. John Brady ................ 1956-59 ...................................... 1,119
24. Damon Lopez ............ 1988-91 ...................................... 1,101
25. Gerry Smith ................ 1946-49 ...................................... 1,079
26. Dan Lyons ................ 1951-55 ...................................... 1,077
27. Dan O’Sullivan .......... 1986-90 ...................................... 1,073
28. Dud Tongal ............... 1978-82 ...................................... 1,062
29. Sanford Jenkins ......... 1988-92 ...................................... 1,052
30. Fred Christ ................ 1949-52 ...................................... 1,037
31. David Buckner .......... 1989-93 ...................................... 1,027
32. Bill Mainor ................ 1968-71 ...................................... 1,024
33. Bill Carlson ................ 1949-52 ...................................... 1,019
XX. Chris Gaston……….....2009-2013……………….............……….806
XX. Alberto Estwick.......2008-2012..................................613
XX. Branden Frazier.......2010-2014..................................227

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« Reply #51 on: February 05, 2011, 04:56:32 pm »

1. Ed Conlin ................... 1951-55 ...................................... 1,886
2. Bryant Dunston ........ 2004-08 ...................................... 1,832
3. Bevon Robin ............. 1997-2001 ................................... 1,793
4. Joe Paterno ................ 1985-89 ...................................... 1,776
5. Jim Cunningham ........ 1955-58 ...................................... 1,744
6. Marcus Stout ............ 2004-08 ...................................... 1,709
7. Ken Charles ............... 1970-73 ...................................... 1,697
8. Jean Prioleau ............. 1988-92 ...................................... 1,442
9. Fred Herzog ............... 1987-92 ...................................... 1,435
10. Brenton Butler……….2006-2011………………...……….. 1,416
11. Charlie Yelverton ....... 1968-71 ...................................... 1,372
12. Bob Melvin ............... 1960-63 ...................................... 1,323
12. Bill Langheld ............. 1965-68 ...................................... 1,323
14. Dave Maxwell ............ 1980-83 ...................................... 1,278
15. Tony McIntosh ......... 1981-85 ...................................... 1,238
16. Darryl Brown ............. 1972-75 ...................................... 1,233
17. Michael Haynes ........ 2000-04 ...................................... 1,228
18. Jason Harris .............. 1997-2001 ................................... 1,218
19. Steve Samuels ........... 1980-85 ...................................... 1,182
20. Jermaine Anderson ... 2002-06 ...................................... 1,178
21. Jim Manhardt ............ 1961-64 ...................................... 1,147
22. John Stevens ............. 1962-65 ...................................... 1,128
23. John Brady ................ 1956-59 ...................................... 1,119
24. Damon Lopez ............ 1988-91 ...................................... 1,101
25. Gerry Smith ................ 1946-49 ...................................... 1,079
26. Dan Lyons ................ 1951-55 ...................................... 1,077
27. Dan O’Sullivan .......... 1986-90 ...................................... 1,073
28. Dud Tongal ............... 1978-82 ...................................... 1,062
29. Sanford Jenkins ......... 1988-92 ...................................... 1,052
30. Fred Christ ................ 1949-52 ...................................... 1,037
31. David Buckner .......... 1989-93 ...................................... 1,027
32. Bill Mainor ................ 1968-71 ...................................... 1,024
33. Bill Carlson ................ 1949-52 ...................................... 1,019
XX. Chris Gaston……….....2009-2013……………….............……….824
XX. Alberto Estwick.......2008-2012..................................622
XX. Branden Frazier.......2010-2014..................................238
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1. Ed Conlin ................... 1951-55 ...................................... 1,886
2. Bryant Dunston ........ 2004-08 ...................................... 1,832
3. Bevon Robin ............. 1997-2001 ................................... 1,793
4. Joe Paterno ................ 1985-89 ...................................... 1,776
5. Jim Cunningham ........ 1955-58 ...................................... 1,744
6. Marcus Stout ............ 2004-08 ...................................... 1,709
7. Ken Charles ............... 1970-73 ...................................... 1,697
8. Jean Prioleau ............. 1988-92 ...................................... 1,442
9. Fred Herzog ............... 1987-92 ...................................... 1,435
10. Brenton Butler……….2006-2011………………...……….. 1,426
11. Charlie Yelverton ....... 1968-71 ...................................... 1,372
12. Bob Melvin ............... 1960-63 ...................................... 1,323
12. Bill Langheld ............. 1965-68 ...................................... 1,323
14. Dave Maxwell ............ 1980-83 ...................................... 1,278
15. Tony McIntosh ......... 1981-85 ...................................... 1,238
16. Darryl Brown ............. 1972-75 ...................................... 1,233
17. Michael Haynes ........ 2000-04 ...................................... 1,228
18. Jason Harris .............. 1997-2001 ................................... 1,218
19. Steve Samuels ........... 1980-85 ...................................... 1,182
20. Jermaine Anderson ... 2002-06 ...................................... 1,178
21. Jim Manhardt ............ 1961-64 ...................................... 1,147
22. John Stevens ............. 1962-65 ...................................... 1,128
23. John Brady ................ 1956-59 ...................................... 1,119
24. Damon Lopez ............ 1988-91 ...................................... 1,101
25. Gerry Smith ................ 1946-49 ...................................... 1,079
26. Dan Lyons ................ 1951-55 ...................................... 1,077
27. Dan O’Sullivan .......... 1986-90 ...................................... 1,073
28. Dud Tongal ............... 1978-82 ...................................... 1,062
29. Sanford Jenkins ......... 1988-92 ...................................... 1,052
30. Fred Christ ................ 1949-52 ...................................... 1,037
31. David Buckner .......... 1989-93 ...................................... 1,027
32. Bill Mainor ................ 1968-71 ...................................... 1,024
33. Bill Carlson ................ 1949-52 ...................................... 1,019
XX. Chris Gaston……….....2009-2013……………….............……….851
XX. Alberto Estwick.......2008-2012..................................625
XX. Branden Frazier.......2010-2014..................................250


To reach 1,000 Gaston needs to average 25 ppg over the next 6 games.
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1. Ed Conlin ................... 1951-55 ...................................... 1,886
2. Bryant Dunston ........ 2004-08 ...................................... 1,832
3. Bevon Robin ............. 1997-2001 ................................... 1,793
4. Joe Paterno ................ 1985-89 ...................................... 1,776
5. Jim Cunningham ........ 1955-58 ...................................... 1,744
6. Marcus Stout ............ 2004-08 ...................................... 1,709
7. Ken Charles ............... 1970-73 ...................................... 1,697
8. Brenton Butler……….2006-2011………………...……….. 1,4439. Jean Prioleau ............. 1988-92 ...................................... 1,442
10. Fred Herzog ............... 1987-92 ...................................... 1,435
11. Charlie Yelverton ....... 1968-71 ...................................... 1,372
12. Bob Melvin ............... 1960-63 ...................................... 1,323
12. Bill Langheld ............. 1965-68 ...................................... 1,323
14. Dave Maxwell ............ 1980-83 ...................................... 1,278
15. Tony McIntosh ......... 1981-85 ...................................... 1,238
16. Darryl Brown ............. 1972-75 ...................................... 1,233
17. Michael Haynes ........ 2000-04 ...................................... 1,228
18. Jason Harris .............. 1997-2001 ................................... 1,218
19. Steve Samuels ........... 1980-85 ...................................... 1,182
20. Jermaine Anderson ... 2002-06 ...................................... 1,178
21. Jim Manhardt ............ 1961-64 ...................................... 1,147
22. John Stevens ............. 1962-65 ...................................... 1,128
23. John Brady ................ 1956-59 ...................................... 1,119
24. Damon Lopez ............ 1988-91 ...................................... 1,101
25. Gerry Smith ................ 1946-49 ...................................... 1,079
26. Dan Lyons ................ 1951-55 ...................................... 1,077
27. Dan O’Sullivan .......... 1986-90 ...................................... 1,073
28. Dud Tongal ............... 1978-82 ...................................... 1,062
29. Sanford Jenkins ......... 1988-92 ...................................... 1,052
30. Fred Christ ................ 1949-52 ...................................... 1,037
31. David Buckner .......... 1989-93 ...................................... 1,027
32. Bill Mainor ................ 1968-71 ...................................... 1,024
33. Bill Carlson ................ 1949-52 ...................................... 1,019
XX. Chris Gaston……….....2009-2013……………….............……….865
XX. Alberto Estwick.......2008-2012..................................639
XX. Branden Frazier.......2010-2014..................................267
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« Reply #54 on: February 20, 2011, 09:20:51 pm »

1. Ed Conlin ................... 1951-55 ...................................... 1,886
2. Bryant Dunston ........ 2004-08 ...................................... 1,832
3. Bevon Robin ............. 1997-2001 ................................... 1,793
4. Joe Paterno ................ 1985-89 ...................................... 1,776
5. Jim Cunningham ........ 1955-58 ...................................... 1,744
6. Marcus Stout ............ 2004-08 ...................................... 1,709
7. Ken Charles ............... 1970-73 ...................................... 1,697
8. Brenton Butler……….2006-2011………………...……….. 1,464
9. Jean Prioleau ............. 1988-92 ...................................... 1,442
10. Fred Herzog ............... 1987-92 ...................................... 1,435
11. Charlie Yelverton ....... 1968-71 ...................................... 1,372
12. Bob Melvin ............... 1960-63 ...................................... 1,323
12. Bill Langheld ............. 1965-68 ...................................... 1,323
14. Dave Maxwell ............ 1980-83 ...................................... 1,278
15. Tony McIntosh ......... 1981-85 ...................................... 1,238
16. Darryl Brown ............. 1972-75 ...................................... 1,233
17. Michael Haynes ........ 2000-04 ...................................... 1,228
18. Jason Harris .............. 1997-2001 ................................... 1,218
19. Steve Samuels ........... 1980-85 ...................................... 1,182
20. Jermaine Anderson ... 2002-06 ...................................... 1,178
21. Jim Manhardt ............ 1961-64 ...................................... 1,147
22. John Stevens ............. 1962-65 ...................................... 1,128
23. John Brady ................ 1956-59 ...................................... 1,119
24. Damon Lopez ............ 1988-91 ...................................... 1,101
25. Gerry Smith ................ 1946-49 ...................................... 1,079
26. Dan Lyons ................ 1951-55 ...................................... 1,077
27. Dan O’Sullivan .......... 1986-90 ...................................... 1,073
28. Dud Tongal ............... 1978-82 ...................................... 1,062
29. Sanford Jenkins ......... 1988-92 ...................................... 1,052
30. Fred Christ ................ 1949-52 ...................................... 1,037
31. David Buckner .......... 1989-93 ...................................... 1,027
32. Bill Mainor ................ 1968-71 ...................................... 1,024
33. Bill Carlson ................ 1949-52 ...................................... 1,019
XX. Chris Gaston……….....2009-2013……………….............……….891
XX. Alberto Estwick.......2008-2012..................................653
XX. Branden Frazier.......2010-2014..................................275
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« Reply #55 on: February 23, 2011, 10:15:01 pm »

1. Ed Conlin ................... 1951-55 ...................................... 1,886
2. Bryant Dunston ........ 2004-08 ...................................... 1,832
3. Bevon Robin ............. 1997-2001 ................................... 1,793
4. Joe Paterno ................ 1985-89 ...................................... 1,776
5. Jim Cunningham ........ 1955-58 ...................................... 1,744
6. Marcus Stout ............ 2004-08 ...................................... 1,709
7. Ken Charles ............... 1970-73 ...................................... 1,697
8. Brenton Butler……….2006-2011………………...……….. 1,470
9. Jean Prioleau ............. 1988-92 ...................................... 1,442
10. Fred Herzog ............... 1987-92 ...................................... 1,435
11. Charlie Yelverton ....... 1968-71 ...................................... 1,372
12. Bob Melvin ............... 1960-63 ...................................... 1,323
12. Bill Langheld ............. 1965-68 ...................................... 1,323
14. Dave Maxwell ............ 1980-83 ...................................... 1,278
15. Tony McIntosh ......... 1981-85 ...................................... 1,238
16. Darryl Brown ............. 1972-75 ...................................... 1,233
17. Michael Haynes ........ 2000-04 ...................................... 1,228
18. Jason Harris .............. 1997-2001 ................................... 1,218
19. Steve Samuels ........... 1980-85 ...................................... 1,182
20. Jermaine Anderson ... 2002-06 ...................................... 1,178
21. Jim Manhardt ............ 1961-64 ...................................... 1,147
22. John Stevens ............. 1962-65 ...................................... 1,128
23. John Brady ................ 1956-59 ...................................... 1,119
24. Damon Lopez ............ 1988-91 ...................................... 1,101
25. Gerry Smith ................ 1946-49 ...................................... 1,079
26. Dan Lyons ................ 1951-55 ...................................... 1,077
27. Dan O’Sullivan .......... 1986-90 ...................................... 1,073
28. Dud Tongal ............... 1978-82 ...................................... 1,062
29. Sanford Jenkins ......... 1988-92 ...................................... 1,052
30. Fred Christ ................ 1949-52 ...................................... 1,037
31. David Buckner .......... 1989-93 ...................................... 1,027
32. Bill Mainor ................ 1968-71 ...................................... 1,024
33. Bill Carlson ................ 1949-52 ...................................... 1,019
XX. Chris Gaston……….....2009-2013……………….............……….902
XX. Alberto Estwick.......2008-2012..................................674
XX. Branden Frazier.......2010-2014..................................284
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« Reply #56 on: February 23, 2011, 10:35:17 pm »

6 points from Butler.  11 points from Gaston.  We are not going to win many games with those numbers.  Feels like a wated 21 point effort from Estwick.
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« Reply #57 on: February 27, 2011, 11:54:50 am »

1. Ed Conlin ................... 1951-55 ...................................... 1,886
2. Bryant Dunston ........ 2004-08 ...................................... 1,832
3. Bevon Robin ............. 1997-2001 ................................... 1,793
4. Joe Paterno ................ 1985-89 ...................................... 1,776
5. Jim Cunningham ........ 1955-58 ...................................... 1,744
6. Marcus Stout ............ 2004-08 ...................................... 1,709
7. Ken Charles ............... 1970-73 ...................................... 1,697
8. Brenton Butler……….2006-2011………………...……….. 1,482
9. Jean Prioleau ............. 1988-92 ...................................... 1,442
10. Fred Herzog ............... 1987-92 ...................................... 1,435
11. Charlie Yelverton ....... 1968-71 ...................................... 1,372
12. Bob Melvin ............... 1960-63 ...................................... 1,323
12. Bill Langheld ............. 1965-68 ...................................... 1,323
14. Dave Maxwell ............ 1980-83 ...................................... 1,278
15. Tony McIntosh ......... 1981-85 ...................................... 1,238
16. Darryl Brown ............. 1972-75 ...................................... 1,233
17. Michael Haynes ........ 2000-04 ...................................... 1,228
18. Jason Harris .............. 1997-2001 ................................... 1,218
19. Steve Samuels ........... 1980-85 ...................................... 1,182
20. Jermaine Anderson ... 2002-06 ...................................... 1,178
21. Jim Manhardt ............ 1961-64 ...................................... 1,147
22. John Stevens ............. 1962-65 ...................................... 1,128
23. John Brady ................ 1956-59 ...................................... 1,119
24. Damon Lopez ............ 1988-91 ...................................... 1,101
25. Gerry Smith ................ 1946-49 ...................................... 1,079
26. Dan Lyons ................ 1951-55 ...................................... 1,077
27. Dan O’Sullivan .......... 1986-90 ...................................... 1,073
28. Dud Tongal ............... 1978-82 ...................................... 1,062
29. Sanford Jenkins ......... 1988-92 ...................................... 1,052
30. Fred Christ ................ 1949-52 ...................................... 1,037
31. David Buckner .......... 1989-93 ...................................... 1,027
32. Bill Mainor ................ 1968-71 ...................................... 1,024
33. Bill Carlson ................ 1949-52 ...................................... 1,019
XX. Chris Gaston……….....2009-2013……………….............……….912
XX. Alberto Estwick.......2008-2012..................................678
XX. Branden Frazier.......2010-2014..................................294


Will Butler break 1500 to end his career at Fordham?
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« Reply #58 on: March 03, 2011, 12:09:00 am »

1. Ed Conlin ................... 1951-55 ...................................... 1,886
2. Bryant Dunston ........ 2004-08 ...................................... 1,832
3. Bevon Robin ............. 1997-2001 ................................... 1,793
4. Joe Paterno ................ 1985-89 ...................................... 1,776
5. Jim Cunningham ........ 1955-58 ...................................... 1,744
6. Marcus Stout ............ 2004-08 ...................................... 1,709
7. Ken Charles ............... 1970-73 ...................................... 1,697
8. Brenton Butler……….2006-2011………………...……….. 1,495
9. Jean Prioleau ............. 1988-92 ...................................... 1,442
10. Fred Herzog ............... 1987-92 ...................................... 1,435
11. Charlie Yelverton ....... 1968-71 ...................................... 1,372
12. Bob Melvin ............... 1960-63 ...................................... 1,323
12. Bill Langheld ............. 1965-68 ...................................... 1,323
14. Dave Maxwell ............ 1980-83 ...................................... 1,278
15. Tony McIntosh ......... 1981-85 ...................................... 1,238
16. Darryl Brown ............. 1972-75 ...................................... 1,233
17. Michael Haynes ........ 2000-04 ...................................... 1,228
18. Jason Harris .............. 1997-2001 ................................... 1,218
19. Steve Samuels ........... 1980-85 ...................................... 1,182
20. Jermaine Anderson ... 2002-06 ...................................... 1,178
21. Jim Manhardt ............ 1961-64 ...................................... 1,147
22. John Stevens ............. 1962-65 ...................................... 1,128
23. John Brady ................ 1956-59 ...................................... 1,119
24. Damon Lopez ............ 1988-91 ...................................... 1,101
25. Gerry Smith ................ 1946-49 ...................................... 1,079
26. Dan Lyons ................ 1951-55 ...................................... 1,077
27. Dan O’Sullivan .......... 1986-90 ...................................... 1,073
28. Dud Tongal ............... 1978-82 ...................................... 1,062
29. Sanford Jenkins ......... 1988-92 ...................................... 1,052
30. Fred Christ ................ 1949-52 ...................................... 1,037
31. David Buckner .......... 1989-93 ...................................... 1,027
32. Bill Mainor ................ 1968-71 ...................................... 1,024
33. Bill Carlson ................ 1949-52 ...................................... 1,019
XX. Chris Gaston……….....2009-2013……………….............……….931
XX. Alberto Estwick.......2008-2012..................................680
XX. Branden Frazier.......2010-2014..................................295


Will Butler break 1500 to end his career at Fordham?  Will Estwick break 1,000 next year?
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« Reply #59 on: March 03, 2011, 01:19:30 am »

It's about high scorers, not best players, but IMHO every single player below Butler on this list, all the way down to #33, was a more impactful player than he has been.
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