What Do We Do For An Encore?

[In-The-Know]

Good win Saturday, but certainly not that defining moment we've been waiting for. It still looks like A-10 play in game a longshot, no decent recruits on radar, what does Pec do to shake things up for next season anf Fordham future and give us hope?

[Rich93]

We beat URI on Wednesday night and go from there. 

[In-The-Know]

We beat URI on Wednesday night and go from there. 

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I said next season and beyond, beating number 14 when you're number 13 isn't exactly what I'd call an encore.

[ace93]

If you are talking next season and beyond then referencing Saturday is somewhat pointless.  It was a nice win, but not exactly one of the signature variety.

Hope will come from winning 3 more games this year.   

As for next season and beyond, we need some game changing recruits.  A 6'10" JUCO might provide hope.

[Rich93]

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I said next season and beyond, beating number 14 when you're number 13 isn't exactly what I'd call an encore.

I know what you said, but I decided to post about the issue at hand for the team, Wednesday night.     Ending our conference road losing streak would be a nice encore, especially since it would mean sweeping URI.  It would also be a nice lead in to the Temple game.  The win in and of itself would not save the conference season or even make it acceptable, however, if GW were to lose it would make the game against Temple on Saturday meaningful and extend the season.  At this point after having bought the tickets and donated money to the program, I am rooting to keep the season going and get some more bang for my buck so to speak. 

[85]

He needs to re-evaluate recruiting. If our own Tom Parrotta gets canned at Canisius, which appears likely, then bring him back to be the top assistant, like he was at Hofstra. That might help.  Ditto if Hobbie is available since it appears Doherty may also be on hot seat.

We need to clear up the schollie situation and re-evalaute if Fay 1 is worthy of one. We can not afford to be down any scholarship players.

[ace93]

85, one can also argue that we cannot afford to fill scholarships with players who cannot contribute at this level which in my opinion means that taking a scholarship in order to fill it is a bit risky at this juncture.  Leaving it open for a potential transfer might be a different story.  Along the same lines if someone transfers, there's no point in filling it with someone who will just fill the spot for 4 years and not contribute.

[In-The-Know]

He needs to re-evaluate recruiting. If our own Tom Parrotta gets canned at Canisius, which appears likely, then bring him back to be the top assistant, like he was at Hofstra. That might help.  Ditto if Hobbie is available since it appears Doherty may also be on hot seat.

We need to clear up the schollie situation and re-evalaute if Fay 1 is worthy of one. We can not afford to be down any scholarship players.

Exactly what needs to be done.  However as witnessed with this site and  his reaction to ourspoken fans, Pec is too much of a control freak to change his staff. We'll probably be down this road again next March.

[Rich93]

He needs to re-evaluate recruiting. If our own Tom Parrotta gets canned at Canisius, which appears likely, then bring him back to be the top assistant, like he was at Hofstra. That might help.  Ditto if Hobbie is available since it appears Doherty may also be on hot seat.

We need to clear up the schollie situation and re-evalaute if Fay 1 is worthy of one. We can not afford to be down any scholarship players.

I know for a fact that Parrotta thinks that Pecora will turn this around if we hang in there.  I also would not be surprised if he is not fired this year, canisius does not like to have to pay for firing coaches and I think he has 2 years left on his contract.  I think Doherty has a better chance of being fired.  

[John]

You start preparing for next year by winning Wednesday. A tone of accountability needs to be set. No time like the present.

So far, I give Pecora the benefit of the doubt on recruiting.  While some recruits have been young and raw, all of those who have seen serious minutes have made positive contributions in one game or another. Not saying every game. Consistency eludes us, but potential clearly is there.

It's unfair to suggest the elder Fay is unworthy of a scholarship when he's yet to spent a moment in uniform. Perhaps a prep year instead of a redshirt year would have been in order, but again, Pecora gets the benefit of the doubt until proven otherwise.

We've got two recruits verballed for next year. Mandell Thomas appears to be a late bloomer, Leonard a project with upside. What Pecora needs to do is use the next scholarship for a player with immediate impact potential, preferably in the frontcourt.

Also, we get our butts in the Barclay's for some key games.

[Bronx Boy]

A  6' 10" JUCO might provide hope.

A 6' 10" JUCO, just like Bristol, would need at least a year to acclimate to A - 10 play.  By then, Gaston would be gone, with Canty having a long way to go to develop into an effective five.

Really can't see any quantum leap occurring in our b-ball program in da near future.

[In-The-Know]

85, one can also argue that we cannot afford to fill scholarships with players who cannot contribute at this level which in my opinion means that taking a scholarship in order to fill it is a bit risky at this juncture.  Leaving it open for a potential transfer might be a different story.  Along the same lines if someone transfers, there's no point in filling it with someone who will just fill the spot for 4 years and not contribute.

Potential transfers? Pec needs players now that can contribute immediately, not another excuse for "wait till next year" as in year four of his five year, 750k annual salary that will never be justified.

[ace93]

Potential transfers? Pec needs players now that can contribute immediately, not another excuse for "wait till next year" as in year four of his five year, 750k annual salary that will never be justified.

Again, if he can find a player now, you go for it, but you don't waste a scholarship on a player that is not A10 level.  If we have a ship open and a worthy potential transfer pops up you snatch him up.  I am not saying that's the preference, but you don't rule it out.  So you have to wait a year for the transfer to contribute, most guys you'd get at this late juncture would fall into the same category.

BTW, your agenda has been made crystal clear again.  You try to feign by making a post that appears neutral, but your agenda is clear.

[RamFan78]

It would be nice to get a big that is not a "project" as we have enough of them already. I do believe that some of the younger players (Smith, Fatty and hopefully Short) have shown that they can be play at this level and should continue to get better.  Anyone that thinks we can win with good guards and marginal players upfront is dreaming. Look at our win Saturday. Gaston dominated because he was the best big on the court. One of the few times we have had an advantage in a long time inside. Look at why we lost twice against the Bonnies because they have the best big maybe in the league.

[In-The-Know]

Again, if he can find a player now, you go for it, but you don't waste a scholarship on a player that is not A10 level.  If we have a ship open and a worthy potential transfer pops up you snatch him up.  I am not saying that's the preference, but you don't rule it out.  So you have to wait a year for the transfer to contribute, most guys you'd get at this late juncture would fall into the same category.

BTW, your agenda has been made crystal clear again.  You try to feign by making a post that appears neutral, but your agenda is clear.

With all due respect my friend, my agenda is CRYSTAL clear, I want Fordham to succeed like Steve Masiello has right up the road from us at Manhattan College, at less than 1/3 the cost.. Now that's quite the turn around, winning 20 games  this season with last season's six win team.  If you think the Rams are headed in that  direction, you are sadly mistaken and  have no credibility other than being a Pec apologist. I don't know the deal you made with Pec, the devil himself, but you play up to him as if you are some infatuated groupee because he's exchanged communications with you. For a person so well educated you don't  see or want to see Pecora Paronia, the thin skinned  Fordham coach who can't win here as he was generously hired to do or take criticism, using you to do exactly what you just did to me-say I have an agenda, when all I point out is the obvious.

[An Old Coach]

He needs to re-evaluate recruiting. If our own Tom Parrotta gets canned at Canisius, which appears likely, then bring him back to be the top assistant, like he was at Hofstra. That might help.  Ditto if Hobbie is available since it appears Doherty may also be on hot seat.

We need to clear up the schollie situation and re-evalaute if Fay 1 is worthy of one. We can not afford to be down any scholarship players.

I don't know if replacing a couple of assistants is going to help anything.  Pecora was hired, allegedly for his recruiting credentials.  I think bringing in some players should be the first, second and third priority.   Just because these are Fordham guys doesn't mean they are better coaches than the ones we currently have.

[ace93]

With all due respect my friend, my agenda is CRYSTAL clear, I want Fordham to succeed like Steve Masiello has right up the road from us at Manhattan College, at less than 1/3 the cost.. Now that's quite the turn around, winning 20 games  this season with last season's six win team.  If you think the Rams are headed in that  direction, you are sadly mistaken and  have no credibility other than being a Pec apologist. I don't know the deal you made with Pec, the devil himself, but you play up to him as if you are some infatuated groupee because he's exchanged communications with you. For a person so well educated you don't  see or want to see Pecora Paronia, the thin skinned  Fordham coach who can't win here as he was generously hired to do or take criticism, using you to do exactly what you just did to me-say I have an agenda, when all I point out is the obvious.

LOL.  Pec apologist, now that's rich...and I don't mean Rich93 b/c he's not one either.

You don't come off as pro-Fordham as you do anti-Pecora.  You have 21 posts on this forum and I would say that 99% of them are some criticism of Pecora.  I am not saying you have to participate more b/c I am sure you'll use that as an opportunity to insult more of us, but you should have some better balance in your posts.

[Rich93]

I don't know if replacing a couple of assistants is going to help anything.  Pecora was hired, allegedly for his recruiting credentials.  I think bringing in some players should be the first, second and third priority.   Just because these are Fordham guys doesn't mean they are better coaches than the ones we currently have.

Hobbie brought in a good recruiting class at SMU this year including a 4 star center from NJ and Brian Bernardi who I think we were also recruiting.  

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/school/_/id/2567/southern-methodist-mustangs

[An Old Coach]

Hobbie brought in a good recruiting class at SMU this year including a 4 star center from NJ and Brian Bernardi who I think we were also recruiting.  

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/school/_/id/2567/southern-methodist-mustangs

If the recruiting class is so good, they won't get fired yet.

[ace93]

I don't know if replacing a couple of assistants is going to help anything.  Pecora was hired, allegedly for his recruiting credentials.  I think bringing in some players should be the first, second and third priority.   Just because these are Fordham guys doesn't mean they are better coaches than the ones we currently have.

I understand you have to protect your own, but the entire staff deals with recruiting and those who have did not exactly set the world on fire so far.  If you want to accomplish your top 3 priorities, replacements might be a wise way to attempt to accomplish those.  Or what do you suggest, they get sent out there for another year, but this time you tell them, "no, I'm serious this time, we need better players".  Were they not trying hard enough before?

And as Rich pointed out, Hobbie recruited well to SMU.  And as 85 pointed out, Parrotta had success with Pecora at Hofstra.

[Rich93]

If the recruiting class is so good, they won't get fired yet.

SMU thinks the problem is Doherty and not the players.  Most schools do not let one recruiting class dictate who the coach is (I think you agreed with this a few years ago).  Also those kids are signed, so they would have to ask for their release.  Any new coach is going to try and keep the 4 star 7 foot center.  They do not grow on trees. 

[Bronx Boy]

I want Fordham to succeed like Steve Masiello has, right up the road from us at Manhattan College, at less than one third the cost.  Now that's quite the turn around, winning twenty games this season, with last season's six win team.  If you think the Rams are headed in that direction, you are sadly mistaken, and have no credibility other than being a Pec apologist.  I don't know the deal you made with Pec, the devil himself, but you play up to him as if you are some infatuated groupee, because he's exchanged communications with you.  For a person so well educated, you don't see, or want to see, Pecora Paronia, the thin skinned Fordham coach who can't win here as he was generously hired to do, or, take criticism, using you to do exactly what you just did to me, say I have an agenda, when all I point out is the obvious.

Some additional data for you, Mr. In-the-Know:

Fordham sports a ranking of 121 in overall SOS, and a ranking of 242, in non-conference SOS, while Manhattan's SOS is 252 and their non-conference SOS is 300, so, just how do ya think da Jaspers would fare in the A - 10 ?

source:  http://dailybracket.wordpress.com/rpi-ranking/

[In-The-Know]

LOL.  Pec apologist, now that's rich...and I don't mean Rich93 b/c he's not one either.

You don't come off as pro-Fordham as you do anti-Pecora.  You have 21 posts on this forum and I would say that 99% of them are some criticism of Pecora.  I am not saying you have to participate more b/c I am sure you'll use that as an opportunity to insult more of us, but you should have some better balance in your posts.

You should worry about" Balance" in Fordham's record, not balance in my posts, not how many posts are "some criticism of Pecora". Keep defending Pec and keeping a blind eye to what he's not getting done. Calling you a Pec apologist is not an insult, just the truth.

BTW

[In-The-Know]

Some additional data for you, Mr. In-the-Know:

Fordham sports a ranking of 121 in overall SOS, and a ranking of 242, in non-conference SOS, while Manhattan's SOS is 252 and their non-conference SOS is 300, so, just how do ya think da Jaspers would fare in the A - 10 ?

source:  http://dailybracket.wordpress.com/rpi-ranking/

Alot better than the Rams after blasting us by 34!

[ace93]

You should worry about" Balance" in Fordham's record, not balance in my posts, not how many posts are "some criticism of Pecora". Keep defending Pec and keeping a blind eye to what he's not getting done. Calling you a Pec apologist is not an insult, just the truth.

BTW

You are starting to overstep and turning it into something personal with me.  I don't think that's the direction you should take this.  Balance is important in posting, recognizing the good with the bad.  I have done my fair share of criticizing and commending of Pecora, my posts here on the forum prove that.  I thought your initial post was good, but since then it has been all anti-Pecora therefore the mention of your "agenda".

As for a balanced record, no thanks.  I think the goal should be a very unbalanced record with a majority of the games in the W column.

[Bronx Boy]

A lot better than the Rams after blasting us by thirty four !

Sorry, but the overall SOS stats don't support your claim that Manhattan sports a stellar b-ball program.  The Jaspers will not go deep into post season, regardless of the fact that they trounced us soundly in the regular season.

[In-The-Know]

Sorry, but the overall SOS stats don't support your claim that Manhattan sports a stellar b-ball program.  The Jaspers will not go deep into post season, regardless of the fact that they trounced us soundly in the regular season.

Nobody said that the Jaspers would go deep in post season. but at least they're going not only to their conference tourament and post season. We're doing neither!

[85]

I don't know if replacing a couple of assistants is going to help anything.  Pecora was hired, allegedly for his recruiting credentials.  I think bringing in some players should be the first, second and third priority.   Just because these are Fordham guys doesn't mean they are better coaches than the ones we currently have.

Its irrelevant that they are Fordham guys.  Parrotta was previously Pecora's #1 assistant during the good recruiting at Hofstra, that is why I mentioned him. I also only mentioned Hobbie since he apparently had a big hand in landing some recruits from this area and there are rumblings that Doherty will be canned. 

[ConnGael]

Nobody said that the Jaspers would go deep in post season. but at least they're going not only to their conference tourament and post season. We're doing neither!

Every team in the MAAC makes the conf. tourney, so that's a bit disingenuous.  Even 1-17 Canisius.

[Bronx Boy]

Every team in the MAAC makes the conference tourney, even 1-17 Canisius, so that's a bit disingenuous. 

LOL, CG.

Apparently, Mr. In-the-Know, isn't really in the know, ... he's only in the no.