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« Reply #1 on: March 29, 2012, 05:08:39 pm » |
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from the article:
The Rams will play five home games, beginning with an August 30th season opener against Division II, Lock Haven, which serves as first year head coach Joe Moorhead's debut.
Definitely a more sensible approach than last season's opener vs Connecticut, which resulted in a 35-3 drubbing.
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« Reply #2 on: March 29, 2012, 05:50:09 pm » |
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PL being a little petty here, but I can see how coaches would not want to take even the slightest chance of someone other than them taking a championship. Not sure at what level the vote took place, but I am sure the coaches were consulted.
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« Reply #3 on: March 29, 2012, 09:13:16 pm » |
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If it's only for 2012 then it's fantatic!! I thought it would be at least 2014 before we would be eligible
. By the time 2013 kicks off we will have 4 full scholly classes on board and every other school will only have their first freshman class on scholly. This is a massive advantage and puts us in great shape to compete for the playoffs in 2013.
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« Reply #4 on: March 30, 2012, 09:40:02 am » |
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If it's only for 2012 then it's fantatic!! I thought it would be at least 2014 before we would be eligible
. By the time 2013 kicks off we will have 4 full scholly classes on board and every other school will only have their first freshman class on scholly. This is a massive advantage and puts us in great shape to compete for the playoffs in 2013.
I wouldn't say the advantage would be "massive". You're making several assumptions: 1. The first is that the scholarship players we have now are better than our opponents' non-scholarship players. That's a big assumption, and perhaps unfounded given how our season played out. Whatever talent our players had when they came in, it's an open question whether their skills have measurably improved and/or are significantly better than good non-scholarship players. We may not have the horses that you think we do. Our guys unfortunately have a lot to prove still. 2. The second assumption is that the scholarship "advantage" won't be outweighed by all of the other advantages that the other PL schools have. For example, solid established coaching, superior facilities, track record of recent success, etc. These all count in recruiting and in performance. |
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« Reply #5 on: March 30, 2012, 12:13:46 pm » |
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When you look at the schedule, there is a lot to like: 6 PL games (3H & 3A), 2 Ivy League games (H & A) and Villanova (A). I assume it is intentional that each of the Jesuit schools gets a H&A with the others to keep the older alumni happy.  I am not sure why the Cornel game was chosen for homecoming instead of the G-town game, but the weather should be warmer in September. IMO, the Lockport (H) and Cincy (A) games cancel out each other. For those griping about Cincy, I note that Colgate plays an early road game against FBS South Dakota. Fordham has a much shorter road trip to Cincy. Ohio also is a State where we recruit and we get some exposure, good or bad. I am not advocating the Cincy game - just saying that S. Dak. would do nothing for the program. |
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« Reply #6 on: March 30, 2012, 12:52:30 pm » |
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I like the schedule, it is challenging. This season should be interesting. I expect much improvement in all areas.
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« Reply #7 on: March 30, 2012, 02:30:54 pm » |
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Given that the whole league won't be on scholarship until 2013, it should be expected that they won't consider us to be on a level playing field until then. I don't see it as being petty in this instance. Just consistent with previous pettiness. As for a clear advantage for us, well, we've had scholarships for a few years now and we've hardly been competitive in the conference. We've made a coaching change, which hopefully gets us back on track to compete. If anything another year of scholarships might help us get back to parity with the league in 2013 and for the years to follow. Schedule looks interesting. I have to note that Lock Haven is the current Columbia of the mid '80's. They have lost the past 42 games. Then again, our recent record against D2 teams is as unimpressive as against BCS schools. Someone gets off the schnide on opening day. |
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« Reply #8 on: March 30, 2012, 04:49:54 pm » |
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I think August 30-31 is freshmen and returning student move in weekend! LOL.  Update: August 30th is a Thursday. Move in is Sept 1,2. |
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« Reply #9 on: March 30, 2012, 08:42:49 pm » |
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Guys a 4 year head start with schollys is a massive advantage . Anyone who thinks different is just plain wrong. Just because we struggled last year doesn't mean it's still not a major advantage.
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« Reply #10 on: March 30, 2012, 11:31:44 pm » |
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Guys a 4 year head start with schollys is a massive advantage . Anyone who thinks different is just plain wrong. Just because we struggled last year doesn't mean it's still not a major advantage.
Struggled? 0-6 in the PL with blowouts was not struggling, it was DOA. You can call me wrong all you want, but that record with two scholarship classes to none for the rest of the league doesn't add up to a major advantage in two years from where I sit. At best we might have a one year advantage. At best. |
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« Reply #11 on: March 31, 2012, 09:53:15 am » |
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Guys a 4 year head start with schollys is a massive advantage . Anyone who thinks different is just plain wrong. Just because we struggled last year doesn't mean it's still not a major advantage.
Agreed. In theory it is a huge advantage. I think we'll be very lucky if we're ineligible for just this year. I don't think it's unreasonable to have us wait at least two years. Why should Fordham be able to play with that advantage? |
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« Reply #12 on: March 31, 2012, 03:13:57 pm » |
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Given that the whole league won't be on scholarship until 2013, it should be expected that they won't consider us to be on a level playing field until then. I don't see it as being petty in this instance. Just consistent with previous pettiness. Well, the whole league won't be on scholarship in 2013, and that's going to be a growing problem going forward. At least Fordham will have its playoff status set, however. |
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« Reply #13 on: March 31, 2012, 07:58:31 pm » |
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At least Fordham will have its playoff status set, however.
Fordham's playoff status remains as it has been the past two seasons: eligible only for an at-large bid to the FCS playoffs. |
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« Reply #14 on: April 01, 2012, 01:08:24 am » |
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« Reply #15 on: April 01, 2012, 10:32:12 am » |
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Fordham's playoff status remains as it has been the past two seasons: eligible only for an at-large bid to the FCS playoffs.
Does anyone think we're in a position to actually vie for the PL title this year anyway? This arrangement does not seem unfair to me, and most likely will be inconsequential to the 2012 season. |
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caliram
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« Reply #16 on: April 01, 2012, 10:51:58 am » |
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Its not like the patriot league is the SEC or even the CAA. Every team in the league has a shot to win on any given year. Look at Fordham's 2 Patirot league title teams, nobody expected either one of those teams to win those years. Look at Georgetown last year playing lehigh at the end of the season for a shot at the playoffs. An upset win here or there and the next thing you know your in the mix in November.
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« Reply #17 on: April 02, 2012, 01:35:00 pm » |
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Its not like the patriot league is the SEC or even the CAA. Every team in the league has a shot to win on any given year. Look at Fordham's 2 Patirot league title teams, nobody expected either one of those teams to win those years. Look at Georgetown last year playing lehigh at the end of the season for a shot at the playoffs. An upset win here or there and the next thing you know your in the mix in November.
I think I knwo what you're trying to say, but you make it sound like everyone has an equal shot and success is almost random. The PL may not be the SEC but it's not exactly a pure crapshoot either. I've always thought of success as being the result of doing a lot of things right. In that respect some programs even in the PL are very well established, others are less so, and some like ours seem to be in perpetual turnaround mode. If the new Coach can suddenly turn things around in just a few months then we could be vying for a spot. If not (and it is I think a tall order), then we may be looking at the following season at the earliest. |
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« Reply #18 on: April 02, 2012, 05:30:22 pm » |
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I think I knwo what you're trying to say, but you make it sound like everyone has an equal shot and success is almost random. The PL may not be the SEC but it's not exactly a pure crapshoot either. I've always thought of success as being the result of doing a lot of things right. In that respect some programs even in the PL are very well established, others are less so, and some like ours seem to be in perpetual turnaround mode. If the new Coach can suddenly turn things around in just a few months then we could be vying for a spot. If not (and it is I think a tall order), then we may be looking at the following season at the earliest.
We need to build a strong infrastructure around the program, as Lafayette, Lehigh and Colgate have done. Mainly with facilities and tv coverage. That will help us sustain the program over the long term. |
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