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« on: July 02, 2012, 05:10:46 pm » |
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...the athletics improved? There are so many folks and I respect everyone's opinion, but can we say and ACE help me here, if there are 300 (I don't know the number) users of this Board if they can make a significant committment to donate enough dollars to get the admnistration interested in getting us moving in the right direction. Getting rid of Gray and committing to a top AD would be a big help.
What we need is someone who has the dollars to say OK I'll donate 20 mill if such and such happens. What do you guys think?
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xtey92a
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« Reply #1 on: July 04, 2012, 02:20:11 pm » |
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I'd put Fordham in my will if Athletics improved. I donate 500 dollars a year.
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Excelsior!
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« Reply #2 on: July 04, 2012, 02:34:08 pm » |
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I've talked to many well-heeled alums that are not currently donating to athletics, but would if the department was elevated to a high level of management.
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kenman
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« Reply #3 on: July 04, 2012, 02:38:26 pm » |
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I donate less than Xtey but would definitely up my donations if the athletic situation improved. I hate to admit being a sunshine patriot on this day, but I rarely wear my Fordham tees or sweatshirts to the gym. i'm very proud to be a Fordham grad but when it comes to athletics we've been a joke in recent years.
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txram
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« Reply #4 on: July 04, 2012, 03:21:11 pm » |
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I donate a little more to softball and some to sailing and WFUV for carrying sports but I'd definitely double that if we got serious about athletics, basketball in particular. But it all starts with them hiring an AD who is experienced taking things to the next level. Secondly, it means getting Gray out of the picture.
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shortshot
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« Reply #5 on: July 04, 2012, 06:35:45 pm » |
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I've maintained my donation to Fordham Army ROTC but cut my contributions to Fortham Athletics by 1/3. I would donate more to Athletics if the Administraton started making serious improvements.
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« Reply #6 on: July 04, 2012, 07:16:01 pm » |
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Not counting season tickets to fball & bball, I donate 250 per year to fball. If things improve, I would triple or perhaps make it a thou. In addition, were there to be a campaign for a gym, I would make a serious contribution, serious, at least, by my means. Also have fball & bball in my will.
By the way, was wearing my 2011-2012 Maroon Club to a bar-b-q today whiich I receive from the fball donation. Have not been solicited for the 2012-2013 year. Has it not gone out yet or did I not notice the solicitation.
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« Reply #7 on: July 04, 2012, 09:26:50 pm » |
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This would be a great time for Alumni and Fans to communicate they would add FU to their will and also increase giving contingent on hiring an effective AD and improving the Department.
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70sRam
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« Reply #8 on: July 05, 2012, 10:05:51 am » |
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If the average donation of the 300 fans on this board is somewhere between xtey's $500 and Jimbo's $250, the total annual amount raised would be about $100,000. That's terrific, they're certainly generous alumni, and I'm sure the University is grateful. But to put that in context, Fordham fundraising accounted for about $66 million last year.
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« Reply #9 on: July 05, 2012, 12:36:26 pm » |
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Ace just advised me that there are 1500 members on this Board. He doesn't know how many are alums, but I would bet most are.
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RickFC77
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I stopped donating to Fordham partly because of athletics but primarily because of the way Fordham chose to treat the sons and daughters of some of my fellow classmates. If Fordham is not interested in the offspring of its Alumni from a legacy standpoint that is their preogative but do not be hyprocritical and then ask Alumni to contribute to the school. I still support the softball program but if athletics were to improve would probably donate specifically to the athletic department.
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70sRam
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Even if there are 1500 board members, we're still talking half a million dollars out of $66 million raised annually.
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Its not about donations...that is not the issue...never has been. Its the Fordham brand that is being cheapened and embarrassed with these clowns running athletics. Get the right people in place first, the donations are secondary to the brand.
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There is no plan in place to improve Fordham athletics. Until there is, why would anyone commit to invest more money in a program with no direction?
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Part of the issue is that the Athletic Department just do not have any appealing fundraising campaigns. I donate to quite a few organizations and from a marketing perspective FU Athletics has the most bland and unappealing pitches.
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Part of the issue is that the Athletic Department just do not have any appealing fundraising campaigns. I donate to quite a few organizations and from a marketing perspective FU Athletics has the most bland and unappealing pitches.
A very, very good point. It obviously has not been a priority. |
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Part of the issue is that the Athletic Department just do not have any appealing fundraising campaigns. I donate to quite a few organizations and from a marketing perspective FU Athletics has the most bland and unappealing pitches.
Precisely. Frank's marketing campaign for a new arena was to state publicly that he was waiting for someone to drop a check for $50M. |
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I strongly suspect that Frank's hands were tied when he was AD re: Fund Raising for Athletics. Everything I've seen and read seems to indicate separate fund raising, especially for capital projects, for Athletics was forbidden. I wounder if Frank will have more freedom in his new position or will he still be prohibited from soliciting funds for any major capital improvements for Athletics. If I was betting, I'd bet on the latter.
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bronxram
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+1 Shortshot, I've heard similar things to that effect.
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I received donation requests directly from the athletic department. I think this is more ubran myth than anything else. Are you actually suggesting that Frank tried to do this and was rebuffed? Or that it was prohibited.....or both?
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bronxram
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I don't know if Frank tried in the past and was rebuffed, but I was told by Frank himself as well as others at the university that all capital campaigns are orchestrated by Fr. McShane. The athletic department cannot solicit funds for any type of campaign that has not been mandated or approved by the President. I think the general consensus is Fr. McShane does not want anything to detract from his current priorities.
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ace93
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They are allowed to ask for donations, but are not allowed to solicit major donations. Anything they want to raise money for has to get university approval and it has been that way for a number of years now. Fundraising for athletics goes through the development office.
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Nothing replaces success in the revenue sports. Nothing. That's not to take away from the success in the Olympic sports - they do matter. It isn't a replacement for success in the flagship sports. - Debbie Yow, AD - NC State
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Understood but again, I think some here are suggesting that Frank tried to jump start fundraising for facilities but was denied due to this protocol. I do not believe that was ever the case.
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ace93
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I did not see that claim being made.
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Nothing replaces success in the revenue sports. Nothing. That's not to take away from the success in the Olympic sports - they do matter. It isn't a replacement for success in the flagship sports. - Debbie Yow, AD - NC State
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I strongly suspect that Frank's hands were tied when he was AD re: Fund Raising for Athletics. Everything I've seen and read seems to indicate separate fund raising, especially for capital projects, for Athletics was forbidden. I wounder if Frank will have more freedom in his new position or will he still be prohibited from soliciting funds for any major capital improvements for Athletics. If I was betting, I'd bet on the latter.
Fundraising was forbidden? Frank's hands were tied? I doubt it. In fact that is utter nonesense. If that were the case then how did Houlihan Field get built? There was an extra step, yes, but to take things to this degree is ridiculous. Nobody forbade fundraising....Frank did not have his hands tied behind his back, he never initiated anything .... this is a very convenient excuse....oh and if fundraising for atheltics is forbidden then exactly what role will Frank be able to play given his new title? A bit of a paradox there....don't you think? |
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It being forbidden seems different to me than someone claiming he tried to jump start something.
Donations like those for Houlihan Field, to the best of my knowledge, are cultivated through the respective sports specific clubs, in this case the Diamond Club. Same goes for locker rooms, video rooms, etc. Which came through the Gridiron and Rebounders clubs.
And you bring up a good clarification that fundraising was not forbidden, though major fundraising was and an even better point about what Frank will be able to do in his new role.
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Nothing replaces success in the revenue sports. Nothing. That's not to take away from the success in the Olympic sports - they do matter. It isn't a replacement for success in the flagship sports. - Debbie Yow, AD - NC State
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An Old Coach
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I strongly suspect that Frank's hands were tied when he was AD re: Fund Raising for Athletics. Everything I've seen and read seems to indicate separate fund raising, especially for capital projects, for Athletics was forbidden. I wounder if Frank will have more freedom in his new position or will he still be prohibited from soliciting funds for any major capital improvements for Athletics. If I was betting, I'd bet on the latter.
Frank's hands were tied in as much as there was no campaign for new athletic facilities. You can't raise money for something that is not going to be built. Fordham's two capital campaigns have been for very specific purposes and unfortunately athletics hasn't been much of a part of either. Deciding what to raise money for is a function of the president and trustees, not the athletic director. |
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They are allowed to ask for donations, but are not allowed to solicit major donations. Anything they want to raise money for has to get university approval and it has been that way for a number of years now. Fundraising for athletics goes through the development office.
Yeah, we get hit up for athletic donations for Columbia often. Perhaps they hit up former athletes more? |
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