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« on: November 07, 2014, 05:06:10 pm »

There! I said it!! Overly hopped, not enough lagering time, top fermented stuff that is over flavored to mask brewing faults.

Now - give me a terrific german beer such as Augustenier - well worth the 14.99 a six, or a simple Paulaner Marzen - now you're talking beer!
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« Reply #1 on: November 07, 2014, 05:08:19 pm »

Man, talk about starting things out on a negative note.  This is supposed to be for fun, not negativity.

How about just telling us how much you like the German beers instead of knocking other beers.

Darn party pooper.  ;)
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« Reply #2 on: November 07, 2014, 05:30:13 pm »

Wet Hops might be the answer. New crop on the East End . NYS once a big grower of hops in USA, prohibition ended that.
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« Reply #3 on: November 07, 2014, 05:41:06 pm »

Hate is a strong word.


I've given up most grains and carbs, so beer is a rare event.  I'm also back to a 32 inch waist!
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« Reply #4 on: November 07, 2014, 08:10:12 pm »

Opened a not bad at all Sierra Nevada Red IPA after Maetzold threw the pick, then witnessed a three and out and a picture perfect drive.  What's not to like?  ;)
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« Reply #5 on: November 07, 2014, 08:52:59 pm »

Couple of good ones up in Milwaukee.  Spotted Cow is my favorite with one from a Little place on River Street that's number two.
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« Reply #6 on: November 07, 2014, 11:00:43 pm »

There! I said it!! Overly hopped, not enough lagering time, top fermented stuff that is over flavored to mask brewing faults.

Now - give me a terrific german beer such as Augustenier - well worth the 14.99 a six, or a simple Paulaner Marzen - now you're talking beer!

Too bad you don't know what you're talking about....try a Long Trail from Vermont and you'll flip...!
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« Reply #7 on: November 07, 2014, 11:40:20 pm »

This is the thing, America is a big area.
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« Reply #8 on: November 08, 2014, 12:40:56 am »

If you can find it, try Hopslam Ale from Michigan. 10% ABV. Yowee!
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« Reply #9 on: November 08, 2014, 07:29:30 am »

Craft Beer is blowing up in states. So many great beers from so many breweries. If you haven't found an American IPA you like, then you're drinking the wrong stuff. Check out the below for some beers that i suggest.

Maine Brewing Company: Lunch
Maine BC: Another One
Ballast Point: Sculpin (many variations... all good. recently had the grapefruit and it was great)
Russian River: Blind Pig
Bell's Brewery: Two Hearted Ale


Those are all awesome. I could go on and on if we start including Double and Triple IPA's.
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« Reply #10 on: November 08, 2014, 09:02:42 am »

If you go to the adirondaks this ski season, you must go to the Lake Placid Brewery. They make a dark Ubu ale. But the brewery itself makes incredible seasonal beers. I had a Quebec style beer one night with a high alcohol content, very tasty and frothy. Ubu ale is available in bottles, it is a dark beer with a light mouthfeel, unique but not my favorite.

Everyone coming in to fill up their growlers, great ambience. Good burgers.
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« Reply #11 on: January 15, 2015, 12:11:09 pm »

Grapefruit Sculplin IPA by Ballast Point is now available in NY. Picked up a 6 pack last weekend.. at 8% it is still very drinkable but it is a beer to be enjoyed. I would recommend it to anyone that likes IPA's, specifically fo the grapefruit variety.
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« Reply #12 on: January 15, 2015, 01:42:24 pm »

I love American IPA's.  There, I said it!  Ha.  I also love German beer.  There is a German-owned restaurant near where I live that has a wide array of beers from Germany.  If you told me I could only have beer for one more day I'd probably go there and order the Dinkelacker Dunkel (a dark lager which is very drinkable for a dark colored beer) - they manage their taps well and all of the beer is delicious.  However I have never seen Augusteiner.

I had a grapefruit beer at the airport last year that I think was from Stratford, CT - but I don't recall the brewery name.  It was just alright.



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« Reply #13 on: January 15, 2015, 04:00:09 pm »

I had a German Grapefruit beer at Epcot when doing "beers around the world" very light and refreshing.

You can have a beer at every nation at Epcot around the Lagoon.
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« Reply #14 on: January 16, 2015, 12:20:36 pm »

I had a grapefruit beer at the airport last year that I think was from Stratford, CT - but I don't recall the brewery name.  It was just alright.

Two Roads Brewing is the Stratford brewery.  Actually the grapefruit beer was not theirs - I also had the white IPA that day (I was at the airport for 6 hours), which was decent:

 http://tworoadsbrewing.com/beers/view/4

The grapefruit was actually a shandy from Harpoon:

http://www.harpoonbrewery.com/beer/345830/ufo-big-squeeze-shandy
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« Reply #15 on: January 19, 2015, 03:13:27 pm »

I heard that Schaeffer Beer is coming back with the original formula.  Now that will be great.  When Stroh's Brewery bought it they quickly made it their promotional beer.  They stopped kraussening (SP) the beer so it was green.  Went from one of my favorite beers to something undrinkable. 
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« Reply #16 on: February 09, 2015, 11:18:57 am »

Chicago Ram - I challenge you to pick up Bell's Hopslam and come back and say that you still Hate American IPA's. The beer is as good as it gets.

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« Reply #17 on: February 10, 2015, 10:10:35 am »

There! I said it!! Overly hopped, not enough lagering time, top fermented stuff that is over flavored to mask brewing faults.

Now - give me a terrific german beer such as Augustenier - well worth the 14.99 a six, or a simple Paulaner Marzen - now you're talking beer!

German beers are obviously outstanding. However, American brewing has made great strides since the days of Bud, Schlitz, and PBR.

Plentiful imports and domestic micros everywhere. We are in the Golden Age of American Brewing. Enjoy it.

Try Sprecher from Wisconsin. Right up your alley. Prost.
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« Reply #18 on: May 31, 2015, 03:23:25 pm »

Drive up 94 to Milwaukee, get a Hop Bomb IPA home brewed at the Rock Bottom. It might change your mind.
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« Reply #19 on: May 31, 2015, 10:22:20 pm »

What's preposterous thread title. There are hundreds of great American IPAs, too many ever to sample.
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« Reply #20 on: May 31, 2015, 11:08:55 pm »

Now here's an American IPA that every Fordham alum should try!

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« Reply #21 on: May 31, 2015, 11:29:31 pm »

From the Fordham Brewing Company in Delaware.

http://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/4067/89046
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« Reply #22 on: June 01, 2015, 09:10:24 am »

If you can find it, try Hopslam Ale from Michigan. 10% ABV. Yowee!

Hopslam is awesome. Too bad its seasonal and available for purchase only a few days a year in NY.
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« Reply #23 on: June 01, 2015, 09:22:45 am »

Hopslam is awesome. Too bad its seasonal and available for purchase only a few days a year in NY.

To me a high content of 10% tastes like a shot of vodka was added. A 5-7 is plenty for me and allows for a good few rounds.
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« Reply #24 on: June 01, 2015, 09:37:03 am »

Now here's an American IPA that every Fordham alum should try!



Fordham Brewing only distributes in the Mid Atlantic. When they get into Da Big Apple, I would expect it offered at Alumni and other events where Beer is permitted.
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« Reply #25 on: June 03, 2015, 03:58:17 pm »

There's two up in Milwaukee that are outstanding IMMHO - Spotted Cow from the New Glarus Brewery Company, New Glarus, Wisconsin. It's a cloudy beer with a wonderful taste.  The second is the Light Beer from the River Street Brewery in Downtown Milwaukee.  It's not really a light beer like Miller or Coors but just a pale color with a delightful flavor. Yummy

I also noticed that Ballantine now has an IPA Pale Ale India Beer.  I wonder if there is any relationship to the old Ballantine beer sold at Yankee Stadium?  There are the 3 rings on the bottle.
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« Reply #26 on: June 03, 2015, 04:28:24 pm »

To me a high content of 10% tastes like a shot of vodka was added. A 5-7 is plenty for me and allows for a good few rounds.

Depends on the beer. Certain high percentage beers definitely have that boozy taste. I've had beers as high as 20+ percet (Dogfish Head World Wide Stout) and that was too much. I routinely drink beers in the 7ish range but Hopslam in particular is a great beer with a ton of flavor and the boozy taste doesnt come through as much.
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« Reply #27 on: June 03, 2015, 04:41:07 pm »

Had several very nice Finback IPA's this past weekend at The Who concert. Nice butterscotch finish after the hops. Forest Hills Stadium promotes local food and breweries and Finback is in Queens.

 
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« Reply #28 on: June 03, 2015, 04:43:17 pm »

Had several very nice Finback IPA's this past weekend at The Who concert. Nice butterscotch finish after the hops.
 

Butterscotch and beer....I think I'm going to wretch!

To each his own I suppose....give me an ice cold Bud

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« Reply #29 on: June 03, 2015, 04:52:31 pm »

Butterscotch and beer....I think I'm going to wretch!

To each his own I suppose....give me an ice cold Bud



Every now and then I find myself crushing a few Ice Cold Bud's.. but the world is full of incredibly great beers right now. Expand your horizons a bit!

I know people that only ever drink pricey wine, but then put their noses up at anything other then your basic imports. Blows my mind! wine snobs... smh
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« Reply #30 on: June 03, 2015, 07:46:53 pm »

Every now and then I find myself crushing a few Ice Cold Bud's.. but the world is full of incredibly great beers right now. Expand your horizons a bit!

I know people that only ever drink pricey wine, but then put their noses up at anything other then your basic imports. Blows my mind! wine snobs... smh

Beer nerds are the new wine snobs.

I'll enjoy a Sam Adams and Shiner Bock when I'm seeking change.  Buds go down easier that the craft beers.  I like big heartless breweries more than the chubby hipster creations....those guys that look like they never kissed a girl wear me out when they extoll  this Knarly Scab pale ale or that Bleeding Absess IPA.
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« Reply #31 on: June 04, 2015, 10:26:28 pm »

Butterscotch and beer....I think I'm going to wretch!

To each his own I suppose....give me an ice cold Bud



Bud gives me a headache. Awful stuff IMO
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« Reply #32 on: June 05, 2015, 11:27:33 am »

Beer nerds are the new wine snobs.

I'll enjoy a Sam Adams and Shiner Bock when I'm seeking change.  Buds go down easier that the craft beers.  I like big heartless breweries more than the chubby hipster creations....those guys that look like they never kissed a girl wear me out when they extoll  this Knarly Scab pale ale or that Bleeding Absess IPA.

You're the definition of a hater, but thats fine. I would recommend trying out some session or "drinkable" IPA's. They are especially popular in the summer, but you can get them year round. They are lower in abv - typically around 4.5-5% and are much smoother then some of the more involved craft beers. My go to is Founders All Day IPA. Its a great tailgating beer - served in a can (no need to pour) and they go down easier. Definitely has some hops to it but its not a sipping beer by any means. Has way more flavor then your typical domestic.

It's not fair to lump all craft beers into one category. I've tasted over 600+ beers the past few years and some have been great and some have sucked. It depends. some beers are definitely winter warmers and some are.. dare i say... fruity summer beers... yes, Grapefruit Sculpin IPA is fantastic. I've had beer shipped in from Belgium too. Westverlyn XII was for a very long time considered the best beer in the world. Brewed by Monk to keep their monasty afloat. I believe it was only ever shipped to the US for distribution twice and each time the beer was sold out within a day. I got ahold of three bottles about 3 years ago. Drank one right away, drank the second a year later on my wedding day, and i'm holding onto the 3rd.

The point is that there are some really fantastic beers out there right now, and whether the brewer is a hipster or not, it shouldnt matter. Domestics like Bud and Coors ect are just like reality tv - when you need some mindless entertainment, its always there for you ;)

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« Reply #33 on: June 05, 2015, 11:37:04 am »

You're the definition of a hater, but thats fine. I would recommend trying out some session or "drinkable" IPA's. They are especially popular in the summer, but you can get them year round. They are lower in abv - typically around 4.5-5% and are much smoother then some of the more involved craft beers. My go to is Founders All Day IPA. Its a great tailgating beer - served in a can (no need to pour) and they go down easier. Definitely has some hops to it but its not a sipping beer by any means. Has way more flavor then your typical domestic.

It's not fair to lump all craft beers into one category. I've tasted over 600+ beers the past few years and some have been great and some have sucked. It depends. some beers are definitely winter warmers and some are.. dare i say... fruity summer beers... yes, Grapefruit Sculpin IPA is fantastic. I've had beer shipped in from Belgium too. Westverlyn XII was for a very long time considered the best beer in the world. Brewed by Monk to keep their monasty afloat. I believe it was only ever shipped to the US for distribution twice and each time the beer was sold out within a day. I got ahold of three bottles about 3 years ago. Drank one right away, drank the second a year later on my wedding day, and i'm holding onto the 3rd.

The point is that there are some really fantastic beers out there right now, and whether the brewer is a hipster or not, it shouldnt matter. Domestics like Bud and Coors ect are just like reality tv - when you need some mindless entertainment, its always there for you ;)




I don't hate.....I see humor in things.

You might be a humorless nerd though.
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« Reply #34 on: June 05, 2015, 11:48:51 am »


I don't hate.....I see humor in things.

You might be a humorless nerd though.


I'll ponder that while i'm drinking my Dirty Bastard on the way home tonight.
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« Reply #35 on: June 05, 2015, 11:51:01 am »


I'll ponder that while i'm drinking my Dirty Bastard on the way home tonight.

This Bud's for you 07
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« Reply #36 on: June 05, 2015, 11:59:05 am »

This Bud's for you 07


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I may enjoy my craft beers, but don't get me wrong.. I bought 144 Bud's/Bud Lights/Coors Originals for a bbq i'm throwing tomorrow. You've said it before - sometimes there's nothing better than an Ice Cold Bud. I may be a "beer nerd" but I enjoy the basics sometimes
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« Reply #37 on: June 05, 2015, 12:09:20 pm »



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I may enjoy my craft beers, but don't get me wrong.. I bought 144 Bud's/Bud Lights/Coors Originals for a bbq i'm throwing tomorrow. You've said it before - sometimes there's nothing better than an Ice Cold Bud. I may be a "beer nerd" but I enjoy the basics sometimes

I hope you have a great day. 

Now....does bbq mean real bbq;  or are you grilling?
Because I can be a BBQ Nerd!
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« Reply #38 on: June 05, 2015, 12:18:46 pm »

Now....does bbq mean real bbq;  or are you grilling?
Because I can be a BBQ Nerd!

And we have a thread for that too!  I don't remember if you have joined in on that one too, but you should.

As for beers, I like my IPA's, but also appreciate the lagers.  If I am going to tailgate, I am likely going with a lager.  If I am at a BBQ, probably the same or I will look for a less hoppy IPA, so that I can appreciate the food a bit more.
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« Reply #39 on: June 05, 2015, 02:20:52 pm »

I hope you have a great day. 

Now....does bbq mean real bbq;  or are you grilling?
Because I can be a BBQ Nerd!

As Real as I can get on surburban LI. I have an electric smoker and plan on doing chicken tomorrow. A short cook because there are a million things going on and I just cant dedicate myself to an overnight cook this time around. Ace and I have had some back and forth about various smokes and smoking techniques.

I've been smoking for about 6 years now. If I had to pick a signature dish i'd say my ribs are on point. I'm pretty good with chicken too, but havent done too many whole chickens. Smoking on rooftops and apartment balcony's made it tough lol but now that i just bought a house on LI i'm hoping to get after it a bit more.

I was in Austin a few weeks ago and I went to the famous Franklin BBQ. It was amazing. Best BBQ i've had, but i still havent hit up lots of the other big spots. I plan on it though. The line was long, but I came prepared. I had a cooler of beer (local texas stufff) and a couple of lounging chairs.
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« Reply #40 on: June 06, 2015, 12:26:33 am »

As Real as I can get on surburban LI. I have an electric smoker and plan on doing chicken tomorrow. A short cook because there are a million things going on and I just cant dedicate myself to an overnight cook this time around. Ace and I have had some back and forth about various smokes and smoking techniques.

I've been smoking for about 6 years now. If I had to pick a signature dish i'd say my ribs are on point. I'm pretty good with chicken too, but havent done too many whole chickens. Smoking on rooftops and apartment balcony's made it tough lol but now that i just bought a house on LI i'm hoping to get after it a bit more.

I was in Austin a few weeks ago and I went to the famous Franklin BBQ. It was amazing. Best BBQ i've had, but i still havent hit up lots of the other big spots. I plan on it though. The line was long, but I came prepared. I had a cooler of beer (local texas stufff) and a couple of lounging chairs.

Good work...Franklin is the real deal.
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Try this with ribs.....3/4 of the cooking time wrapped in foil.  Finish unwrapped (the last hour).  It keeps them very moist.  160-170 degree indirect heat.
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« Reply #41 on: September 24, 2015, 10:09:24 am »

My typical Rib Recipe:

First Layer of Spice: Brown Sugar
Second Layer: A rub that brings a little bit of heat

In the smoker for 1-2 hours depending on how they look.. 

Pull em out... drop some more brown sugar and rub on top - add a squirt of butter - wrap in tin foil. Add some apple juice in the foil to create a steaming effect. put them in for 2 hours.

pull them out and unwrap. add some more of the spicy rub and glaze of bbq sauce. back in until the meat has pulled up about an inch off the bone.

That right there will provide you with a perfect bit through rib. sweet but with some nice heat on the back end.

I don't sauce my ribs when they come back out. The little bit of sauce I add before the last hour in the smoker is all you need. I'm not a big believer of sauce on my BBQ period, but it serves its purpose every now and then.
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« Reply #42 on: September 24, 2015, 11:14:44 am »

My typical Rib Recipe:

First Layer of Spice: Brown Sugar
Second Layer: A rub that brings a little bit of heat

In the smoker for 1-2 hours depending on how they look.. 

Pull em out... drop some more brown sugar and rub on top - add a squirt of butter - wrap in tin foil. Add some apple juice in the foil to create a steaming effect. put them in for 2 hours.

pull them out and unwrap. add some more of the spicy rub and glaze of bbq sauce. back in until the meat has pulled up about an inch off the bone.

That right there will provide you with a perfect bit through rib. sweet but with some nice heat on the back end.

I don't sauce my ribs when they come back out. The little bit of sauce I add before the last hour in the smoker is all you need. I'm not a big believer of sauce on my BBQ period, but it serves its purpose every now and then.

That's a very good recipe....the extended time in the foil really does keep them moist and "fall off the bone" tender.

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